Khalistan : When Will We Get Our Own Independent Sate?

[hawk13]

Hawk bro, its cool, but infantry is more important than navy.

and what about the ranks??

I have made my own ranks

but they are stupid

Too many ranks

BTW, bro, please post the 2nd part of that letter plz

Sorry for delay for post navy does not mean full scale navy small no of submarines , missile boats and naval commandos r the biggest assets. Ranks can be of any kind army should have BRITISH PATTERN even RUSSIA , CHINA R ADOPTING THE SAME. inFANTRY, COUNTER INTELLIGENCE, COMMOMANDO UNITS, light artilery can do the job. air force will have compact pilotless planes. GURDWARA SHOULD INVEST IN INDUSTRIES TO GENERATE FUNDS.BUT POLITICAL SYSTEM BACKING THE ARMY IS MUST .WHAT THE CHURCILL SAID AFTER THE SET BACK FROM THE NAZIS THESE ALONG WITH GURU JI MOTTO NISHCHE KAR APNI JEET KARO WAHE GURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

[Punjabi_Link]

WJKK WJKF

I agree fully with the post above. DKI is right.

But Barjinder bhaji, its very difficult to throw a bomb and then shout Khalistan Zindabad. Once police arrests u, u will become a police cat. The panth is infilitrated with such cats.

But something needs to be done.

Or else in 200 years Sikhism in India will be Hinduism. RSS is trying its best to make Sikhs Hindus.

But even if we r unable to make khalistan in this generation, we shud be succsesfull in killing police officers like KPS Gill, Izhar Alam, Sumedh Saini, Julio Ribeiro. Politicians like Sajjan, Maninder Bitta, Tytler, Badal, Jr Badal. Fake gurus and thugs like Phoola, Bhanirawala, Ashutosh, Jagjit Sinh, Sarup Sinh, Pehowa.

If we are unable to kill them, the coming generation is not gonna get Khalistan.

This is my coclusion.

Kharak Singh

WJKK WJKF

It is going to be hard to kill them since they got police officers and soldiers protecting their homes and family.

[guptveer1469]

U r very original HAWK!!! Hats off!

Punjabi Link, u know, Indra Gandhi was also protected. But she got riddles with 38 bullets. So why can't we kill the other remaining

These people where main for Operation Blue Star

1. Indira Gandhi

2. Gen. Vaidya

3. Lt. Gen. KS Brar

Only one is left.... Lets do da job!

[Punjabi_Link]

U r very original HAWK!!! Hats off!

Punjabi Link, u know, Indra Gandhi was also protected. But she got riddles with 38 bullets. So why can't we kill the other remaining

These people where main for Operation Blue Star

1. Indira Gandhi

2. Gen. Vaidya

3. Lt. Gen. KS Brar

Only one is left.... Lets do da job!

It is going to be hard to kill Brar because he is protected by the army. I don't think he has sikhs protecting him and his family right now.

[Charandhoor Singh]

Involved in both the study of politics and economics, I must say I find some the stuff people have been posting on this forum pretty comical... childish fantasies to say the least.

We have so many sources which we can refer to in relation to Khalsa Raaj.. Choubees Avtar Bani, Sau Sakhi, Naseeat Nama, Karnih Nama.... If you dont believe in karni nama you should know thats where the linke 'Raaj Karega Khalsa comes from....'

Karni Nama is probably the prime source for information on Khalsa Raj... please read it properly first rather than making up fantacies of hows everythings gonna be.... Khalsa with submarines, warplanes etc... Have you lot gone mad??????

The International Recognition which people claim to seek... you should no the ideas of sovereignty and international legitimacy are based on Western Ideological phenomena... refer to the Westphalian Principles. Not to mention the idea of 'State' and the connotations of 'Nation' are created by states whom it suit to have exist.

Who will govern this Khalistan... The AKJ disagree with the Taksal who inturn disagree with the Sikh Missionary who are hated by the Nihangs who are frowned upon by some Nanaksaris ..... endless list

Please dont inslut the Sikh Community by going on about how Khalistan will be a democratic state...the Idea of democracy and all its benefits is another great western idea. For those who have lost all sense of reality (majority of people posting here) incase you didnt know... people of Punjab dont really want Khalistan... they are happy to vote Badal as the CM are alternatively Captain Sahib.... will you force them to accept Khalistan through Rousseau's theory of the 'greater good', as it certainly wont be on Mills theory on what the majority want or Benthams theory of the greatest happines of the greatest numbers - two of the main theorists who contributed to the popularisation democtaic idea.

Sure Indian government is messed up and people like Sant Jarnail Singh did a great job in rasing awareness in the 70s and 80s - that the Mahapursh created shrunk immensely a long time ago. Look for realistic goals in life and dont create childish fantasies that you can dream about. Become harcore in you rehat, do maha simran abhiyaas, learn and study Gurbani extensively.... dharam should be fought based on daya (see Japji Sahib), true daya will come to us by following the teachings and rehat of our gurus. Once we have this we are in a position to fight for dharam.... then you can punish those who have wronged the Sikhs to start with.

Im sorry but the majority of this thread is an absolute joke. People need to get reality checks.

This has been a very quick reply... academically (whether in the field of religion, politics, economics, history, theology, philosophy...) peoples arguemens in this thread would be laughed at hysterically. Not to mention the highly unrealistic and fantasy nature of the arguements. Not to mention the fact that no one seems to care about what the karni nama says prior to the last lines... 'Raaj KArega Khalsa.....'

[hawk13]

Involved in both the study of politics and economics, I must say I find some the stuff people have been posting on this forum pretty comical... childish fantasies to say the least.

We have so many sources which we can refer to in relation to Khalsa Raaj.. Choubees Avtar Bani, Sau Sakhi, Naseeat Nama, Karnih Nama.... If you dont believe in karni nama you should know thats where the linke 'Raaj Karega Khalsa comes from....'

Karni Nama is probably the prime source for information on Khalsa Raj... please read it properly first rather than making up fantacies of hows everythings gonna be.... Khalsa with submarines, warplanes etc... Have you lot gone mad??????

The International Recognition which people claim to seek... you should no the ideas of sovereignty and international legitimacy are based on Western Ideological phenomena... refer to the Westphalian Principles. Not to mention the idea of 'State' and the connotations of 'Nation' are created by states whom it suit to have exist.

Who will govern this Khalistan... The AKJ disagree with the Taksal who inturn disagree with the Sikh Missionary who are hated by the Nihangs who are frowned upon by some Nanaksaris ..... endless list

Please dont inslut the Sikh Community by going on about how Khalistan will be a democratic state...the Idea of democracy and all its benefits is another great western idea. For those who have lost all sense of reality (majority of people posting here) incase you didnt know... people of Punjab dont really want Khalistan... they are happy to vote Badal as the CM are alternatively Captain Sahib.... will you force them to accept Khalistan through Rousseau's theory of the 'greater good', as it certainly wont be on Mills theory on what the majority want or Benthams theory of the greatest happines of the greatest numbers - two of the main theorists who contributed to the popularisation democtaic idea.

Sure Indian government is messed up and people like Sant Jarnail Singh did a great job in rasing awareness in the 70s and 80s - that the Mahapursh created shrunk immensely a long time ago. Look for realistic goals in life and dont create childish fantasies that you can dream about. Become harcore in you rehat, do maha simran abhiyaas, learn and study Gurbani extensively.... dharam should be fought based on daya (see Japji Sahib), true daya will come to us by following the teachings and rehat of our gurus. Once we have this we are in a position to fight for dharam.... then you can punish those who have wronged the Sikhs to start with.

Im sorry but the majority of this thread is an absolute joke. People need to get reality checks.

This has been a very quick reply... academically (whether in the field of religion, politics, economics, history, theology, philosophy...) peoples arguemens in this thread would be laughed at hysterically. Not to mention the highly unrealistic and fantasy nature of the arguements. Not to mention the fact that no one seems to care about what the karni nama says prior to the last lines... 'Raaj KArega Khalsa.....'

Dear brother, You r unrealistic not us we know how to fihgt and win war u r used to live in slavery not us differences r here in each socity not only in sikhs NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US THOSE LAUGHING AT US WILL LICK SHOES OF KHALSA , KHALSA IS A NATION ,WILL REMAIN SO, as a soldier we know our jobWE BELIEVE IN KHALSA HAI JO KARAI NIS JANG. we r true nation builders if we can build INDIA we can destroy it too and build our nation donot ignore the history.

[hawk13]

U r very original HAWK!!! Hats off!

Punjabi Link, u know, Indra Gandhi was also protected. But she got riddles with 38 bullets. So why can't we kill the other remaining

These people where main for Operation Blue Star

1. Indira Gandhi

2. Gen. Vaidya

3. Lt. Gen. KS Brar

Only one is left.... Lets do da job!

It is going to be hard to kill Brar because he is protected by the army. I don't think he has sikhs protecting him and his family right now.

Do not overestimate the mahasas I will cite u a example when in BUNDELKHAND area of UP AND MP some dharmi faujis were approaching when they came near the barricades set up by hindu faujis they started shouting JAIKARAS ON HEARING THE JAIKARAS THEIR OFFICER INCHARGE WERE SO SCARED THAT HE DIED OF HEART FAILURE THAT IS HOW SOCALLED MAHASAS BEHAVE IN REAL FIGHTING. what happened in KARGIL NON SIKH REGULAR TROOPS FAILED AGAINIST PAK PARA MILATARY FORCES DESPITE USING AIRFORCE AND HEAVY WEAPONS.

[Charandhoor Singh]

My Friend you did not reply to a single point I made...Great post!!! :TH:

p.s. You may want to read up a bit on 'nation' and 'nationalism' rather than freely using the terms and ideas, or alternatively edit your post. Or I am afriad I will have to address your points and make you look rather silly. :nihungsmile:

[Charandhoor Singh]

My Friend you did not reply to a single point I made...Great post!!! :TH:

p.s. You may want to read up a bit on 'nation' and 'nationalism' rather than freely using the terms and ideas, or alternatively edit your post. Or I am afriad I will have to address your points and make you look rather silly. :nihungsmile:

[guptveer1469]

If we dont have a nation

There will be no Sikhism on the world in 80 years