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Hello to everyone,

I want to ask a question. Are sikhs that live in the UK - cowards?

I wanted to raise this issue, because from what i have seen, i believe that we have all become cowards. You hear of racist attacks on sikh youth by racist communities in colleges, universities and school. We do not have any way of fighting back, the simple reason is that we do not have any UNITY within our community at all!

Look around and see what is happening! Our gurdwaras don't teach us anything about sikhism, our youth can't understand what happens at the gurdwara. Maharaj Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave us names like 'singh' and 'kaur' to eliminiate caste, yet we all bring up caste i.e. jat, bhatra etc WHY?

Our boys are into drugs, booze etc Our girls are going out with muslims without a care in the world. our gurwara halls are used to eat meat, drink and dance to lewd songs! WHY?

Our beloved Sahibzaade gave up their lives (7 and 9 year old children) surrounded by mughal armies, yet they did not give up their faith. today we get scared by a couple of racist muslims. WHY?

I believe that we are slowly becoming like a scared community, who can only fight amongst themselves! I really believe that we need to get a grip NOW, before it is too late!!

I apologise if I have offended anyone

Thanks,

Is it really that bad in the UK? blink.gif

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Ek Onkar Satnam

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Sangat Ji, cowards are only those who do not fight against evil or oppression and who do not stand for what they believe in. Those sikhs in the UK who have been brave enough to take Amrit and keep the khalsa roop are truely brave as in this day and age it can be scary to really give your head to the Guru. When you have truely given your head to the Guru your fears would have been destroyed, im still fighting the daily battle to become fearless, the strength to become fearless only comes from waheguru as stated in the mool mantar

"Nirabho"

But sangat ji we also have to become "with gurujis kirpa"

"Nirvair"

By meditating on the Gun of Waheguru we can be come strong and fearless

Gurfateh Ji

"I do not have the naam because i still have the houmai"

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Spoken like a budda :) aka "In my day things were different...."

I think roop33 was asking questions of the whole Sikh community which your generation is also present in, and dont forget its probably your generation that leads these people you condemn... here was roop33 asking for unity and you've coming along and made a generation divide ;)

I think every community has problems and we cant go back to the mob/gang mentality of decades ago because firstly its illegal and secondly look where thats turned out? but at the time it was needed...

Every community has problems... and I agree its our lack of unity in the UK that has magnified it.

I maybe a Buddha but there is certainly truth to the point.....

It wasn't that "In my day things were different...."....it's just that we had no choice.......today kids have a lot of choice and they choose not to stand up for truth and justice anymore but for idiotic issues....as I stated above....

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Those sikhs in the UK who have been brave enough to take Amrit and keep the khalsa roop are truely brave as in this day and age it can be scary to really give your head to the Guru. When you have truely given your head to the Guru your fears would have been destroyed, im still fighting the daily battle to become fearless, the strength to become fearless only comes from waheguru as stated in the mool mantar

"Nirabho"

But sangat ji we also have to become "with gurujis kirpa"

"Nirvair"

By meditating on the Gun of Waheguru we can be come strong and fearless

Gurfateh Ji

"I do not have the naam because i still have the houmai"

Beautifully put veer G

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i think that answers the question perfectly................ :)

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As long as their is Gurbani, there will always be brave Sikhs.

However the majority of the community is brave too man

our girls flirt on the roads, and smoke on the streets without fear of bhesti lol

they dress, and expose asstes without no shame and fear of bhesti lol

our boys r the bravest drinkers lol

our commitees have to be the bravest for disrespecting Guru ji and taking mick out of the Gurus estate.

come on give the punjabi people a break they are brave in ther own way.

our gurdwaras estates r becoming clubs, the women dress like they posing in brotherls when they come to gurdwra man.

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Not EVERY sikh girl dresses like a prostitute and not EVERY sikh guy is a coward so stop bloody generalising! :)

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Not EVERY sikh girl dresses like a prostitute and not EVERY sikh guy is a coward so stop bloody generalising! :lol:

;)

calm down go grab urself a nice glass of cool lassi :cool:

veer G no-one sed they were...........but at the same time it would be very niave to deny that some sangat come gurdwara thinking its a fashion show rather than paying respects to Guru Jee

but hey............its all hukam........................ :)

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Not EVERY sikh girl dresses like a prostitute and not EVERY sikh guy is a coward so stop bloody generalising! :lol:

;)

calm down go grab urself a nice glass of cool lassi :cool:

veer G no-one sed they were...........but at the same time it would be very niave to deny that some sangat come gurdwara thinking its a fashion show rather than paying respects to Guru Jee

but hey............its all hukam........................ :)

listen im not naive i know what goes on and yes there are men and women who act like they dont care with a serious attitude problem..men showing off their latest designer trim beard and women showing off their latest dresses BUT what annoys me is the generalisation going on here, its seriously annoying........anyway if these people go to the gurdwara think of it as an opportunity to educate them instead of giving them looks and talking behind their back...........gossiping in gurdwara's also p!sses me off!

the problem is that we lack the skills to teach our own!

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