WHAT DO YOU EAT!?!?!

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH 0]

animal testing is obsurd....totally

ridign a horse does not hurt it..rather it enjoys it

and cows these days are torutured 2 the extreem for their milk..pumped full of steroids strapped 2 machines for 8hours a day...

what a life

ps: i eat meat

[Jaspaul Singh 17]

animal testing is obsurd....totally

ridign a horse does not hurt it..rather it enjoys it

and cows these days are torutured 2 the extreem for their milk..pumped full of steroids strapped 2 machines for 8hours a day...

what a life

ps: i eat meat

OYE !! Gabroo ji... hale meat nai chadya ?????

.... we should have a talk again

:e:

[Balwinder Singh 16]

animal testing is obsurd....totally

Can u explain how is it absurd? Dont u think it "hurts" umm? I juss wanna ask here that people who renounce meat because they think it is inhuman to kill animals , how do they justify this? Do they still take medicines knowing that it took so many lives and disrupted the normal life of many god created living beings.

ridign a horse does not hurt it..rather it enjoys it

I didn't quite follow u.How do horses enjoy it when they r tied upto their nose and had to bear the weight of a person "without any reason"? they are not free ...they live like slaves.Whats the enjoyment here.

and cows these days are torutured 2 the extreem for their milk..pumped full of steroids strapped 2 machines for 8hours a day...

what a life

I juss wanna ask here why do we drink milk of the cow which is not meant for us?I never seen any other anima

l (except us, we are social animals) torturing any other animal for "MILK".

How do u guyz justify these things?Plz respond.

[S1ngh 1,838]

why eat meat when we can survive without it ?? just a taste?

Two reason not to eat meat :

1) It's god who made those animals, It's not our duty to kill them. Let him/her take care of it

2) It's cruel.. No animal wants to die in any way !

[Guest mehtab]

khaao peeyo aish karo mittro, dil par kisay da dukhaayo naa

[Jash 0]

lolz rochak veerji!!!

well..i wasn't a vegetarian at 1st, but after i was blessed with amrit, i started being one...but at that time i took egg, coz i didn't know it was wrong...now, i'm not taking it at all...n very very VERY fussy abt food..heheheh..i'll get gaala frm parents n relatives n all..but who cares!

btw...what is 'kosher'???

u all have to becareful with the emulsifiers in biscuits, ice-creams,chocolates n stuff..... sum are meat based...sum are not...n also lecithin...it can be made out of soya or egg yolk..so the safest thing to do is...call up the company who makes that product, for example a chocolate company, call them n find out..thatz wat i did here...

All the best!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[DhadiMania 11]

wot do u guys think about egg as meat? we think it is, but frm a scientist point of view its not actually bin born.

opionions plz

[V 11]

wot do u guys think about egg as meat? we think it is, but frm a scientist point of view its not actually bin born.

opionions plz

We (or most veggies here) don't want to eat something thta kills an animal

end of discussion

that egg could have become a chicken

[Gupti 0]

that egg could have become a chicken

Actually it couldn't have. It would have had to have been fertilised first.

[Guest SikhForLife]

btw...what is 'kosher'???

Kosher meat: jews believe they have to eat the butcherd meant within 2 days

Kosher (or hebrew pron. "Kasher" or "Kashrut" ) means pure..

Hebrew laws define what food is pure and what not..

Kosher may contain some types of animals which are defined as "NOT MEAT" in jewish religion/culture.

http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm

Certain animals may not be eaten at all. This restriction includes the flesh, organs, eggs and milk of the forbidden animals.

Of the animals that may be eaten, the birds and mammals must be killed in accordance with Jewish law.

All blood must be drained from the meat or broiled out of it before it is eaten.

Certain parts of permitted animals may not be eaten.

Meat (the flesh of birds and mammals) cannot be eaten with dairy. Fish, eggs, fruits, vegetables and grains can be eaten with either meat or dairy. (According to some views, fish may not be eaten with meat).

Utensils that have come into contact with meat may not be used with dairy, and vice versa. Utensils that have come into contact with non-kosher food may not b

e used with kosher food. This applies only where the contact occurred while the food was hot.

Grape products made by non-Jews may not be eaten.

[Singhstah 286]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

The reason egg is wrong is because it deserves to be born just like any human, how would a human mother feeel if that happened to her child.

BTW, Even if a food product has a veggie sign on it it still may contain egg, because as KANDOLA veer said scientists say that egg is not meat, so u still have to check.

Be careful, be very careful.....

[kaur_khalistani_lioness 4]

I'm not sure about Cows lol

but IF im not wrong

they HAVE TO BE MILKED

orelse they Die

What abt the wild cows??? :T:

Do they die after giving birth as nobdy milk umm except calf.

wikid..hehehhe

but the thing is calf dies if calf(boy or gal hahaha) drinks too much!

i remember my mum ji used milk cow..and would leave little for the calf.. but when my biji used to milk our cow..she would leave loads of milk for calf..and jus bring home as much as we needed right, she was like proper kaur, didnt want to take someone elsez thing...but then the calf would get sick...so then my bapuji told my mum ji to milk the cow from now on! after talkin to my biji>> my bapuji(granddad) told my biji to leave less for teh calf..ma biji was hahaha...it was cute..hahhaha

so instead of gettin into argument everyday..he told my mum ji to milk the cow...

anyhow

thing is...those wild cows...they dont get good stuff to eat..so they can't/dont produce as much milk as domestic cows/buffalows..

see the difference? u feed loads of stuff when cow/baffalow gives birth! where as the poor wild ones dont get any special treatment!

...there are so many things done...hehehe..man i miss those days..u made so many good things for teh "GA" "MAJJH" i used to be jealous (they paid more attesion to the cow then me! )

hehhehe

bhul chuk muaf karni

[DhadiMania 11]

thanks 4 the posts n the responses bout egg

[Balwinder Singh 16]

Thankx kaur_khalistani_lioness for explaining my doubt over wild cows.....but people still think that they are tortured for the milk and I am not able to understnad why do we need milk from "other" animal when we can do without it....as S1ngh ji said that "why to kill animal when we can survive without it ( Also,Why do we prefer killing plants rather than animals...Is plant's life different frm animal's?)"......same here why to milk cow or even rear cow when we can do with out it.......isn't it true???

Secondly.....nobdy responded to the issues raised by me in my last few replies.I was thinkin that people will come up with some explanations...but nuthin came out.Anyways, if u guyz think the issues raised were stupid...atleast refute them.

[JSingh 3]

QUOTE (JSingh @ Apr 2 2004, 09:34 AM)

The diary products are made out of milk and milk is called Amrit in Gurbani. Therefore, milk is a vegetarian diet. Read the following tuk:

pasoo mileh chang-aa-ee-aa kharh khaaveh amrit deh.

naam vihoonay aadmee Dharig jeevan karam karayhi. ||3||

Even beasts have value, as they eat grass and give Amrit (milk).

Without the Naam, the mortal`s life is cursed, as are the actions he performs. ||3||

i beleive milk is only amrit for hindus, and this tuk may have been addressed to them. We obviously have a different idea of what amrit is..

I was thinking about hte vegan aspect and sikhi etc.. sikhi is meant to be universal etc etc.. ive found eveyrthing in sikhi could even apply to aliens and whatever else, its so beautiful, but one thing ive been thinking about lately is degh!! what happens if all the cows go extinct? or like the earth gets destroyed and we are living in space somewhere with no cows ahaha, then no more degh? or do we create a new degh recipe? i mean we can make butter out of like soy, soy butter, but hte question is, is this ok?

because the power of degh is not in the flour, water, sugar or butter, its in the naam, ba

ni and ardas right?

Dear MKhalsa Ji, sorry for replying to your post late. I almost forgot that i posted something on this thread too... lolzzzz

Bhaji, I don't see anything in that shabad that says that milk is Amrit for hindus. In order to see what does Amrit mean in this context. We have to compare two things that Guru Ji talk about in that tuk above. One is grass and other is milk. Now you can see the difference between the grass and milk. It is amazing that these animals eat grass, that you can see everywhere, and give a valuable thing, milk, so in this sense, milk is amrit compared with grass. Therefore, milk is vegetarian. To further see it, read this following shabad in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji by Bhagat Dhanna Ji where Bhagat Ji is asking for wordly things:

ga-oo bhais maga-o laavayree.

ik taajan turee changayree.

ghar kee geehan changee.

jan Dhannaa layvai mangee. ||2||4|| (SGGS 695)

Meaning:

A milk cow, and a water buffalo, I beg of You,

and a fine Turkestani horse.

A good wife to care for my home

- Your humble servant Dhanna begs for these things, Lord. ||2||4||

As you can see, Bhagat Ji is asking for a laveri gaan and majh (jihri already su chukki hove te dukh dendi hove).

So please try to see the context in which Guru Sahib called milk 'Amrit'

bhul chuk di khima....