Article About Sikhs With Cut Hair Being Referred To As Not Sikh

[gsathwal]

This whole nonsense was started by the SGPC (aka SAD Badal) - since when were they ever a authority on Sikhi?

I personally reckon its a ploy so that 'Sikhs' get scheduled caste status in Punjab (oh yes - despite being casteless, this will be their next move, just like the SGPC supported sceduled caste demand in Rajasthan), to up the privelages of the few dozen.

Bhai Sahib Ranjit Singh's viewpoint is much more sensible. And whatever happened to the definition of a Sikh as being one who believes in One God as defined in the Mool Mantar and believes in the teachings of the GGS and 10 Satgurus from Nanak to Gobind Singh? By acknowledging and respecting the aim of taking khande ke pahul, you do not fail the teachings of Dasmesh pita - only Akal Purukh knows the real sincerity of your heart and actions.

As I've said elsewhere on a similar thread - watch the Sangat, the next time you go to the Gurudwara and recognise that all those that bow before Maharaj, be shorn of hair or not are your Sikh brothers and sisters - do not be egoist and make the mistake that they are not the children of Dasmesh, because like I said, only the True One really knows.

Kes is only one of the 5 Ks so what if a person has kes and dhari but does not wear a comb, or a kirpan what about them. Are they a sikh or Not

Also i know many people without kes that pray more then people with Kes, i also know people with Kes who do not even believe in God and say religion is all nonsense, they have kes for punjabi identity etc. So are they Sikh while others arnt.

Lastly Sikhi is about the inside its not show where people dress like a sikh are more religious then others.

[buddasingh]

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As I've said elsewhere on a similar thread - watch the Sangat, the next time you go to the Gurudwara and recognise that all those that bow before Maharaj, be shorn of hair or not are your Sikh brothers and sisters - do not be egoist and make the mistake that they are not the children of Dasmesh, because like I said, only the True One really knows.

so does this mean that someone who is NOT punjabi, eg. Gora who has given his or her head to guruji is merely an "adopted" child of Dasmesh?

those shorn of hair are my brothers and sisters, but Sikh? A Hindu or Muslim shows greater respect for Sikhi than a son/daughter of a sikh who proclaims sikhi but needs to cut their hair because their confidence and respect in relation to sikhi never matured much past ninth grade peer pressure to fit in.

[Starsingh]

BUDDASINGH SAID :

A Hindu or Muslim shows greater respect for Sikhi than a son/daughter of a sikh who proclaims sikhi but needs to cut their hair because their confidence and respect in relation to sikhi never matured much past ninth grade peer pressure to fit in.

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I totally Agree!

[The_Perfect_Student]

Binaa Tegh Kesan Na Deevon Deedaare (I will not give my darshan them who do not keep there sword and kes)

Binaa Shastra Kesan Naran Bedh Jaano (Without weapons and kes, a man is no more than a sheep)

can you tell me where you get these lines from. i am sure gurus never said that.

infact by saying that this is the guru's hukam, we are slandering the guru.

Those are Guru Gobind Singh Ji's own words, written by themselves in Sri Dasam Granth Ji.

Sometimes we confuse the voice of our minds for that of God........

Its simple, I know when its GOD talking to me and when its my mind trying to fool me.

[Starsingh]

Ths beautiful sikh identity is being raped and plundered in the West, with all types of weird stubbbled looks, or with a turban plus stubble, turban plus clean shaven look, turban plus sideburns and shaka, Putka with a long taliban style bandana look from the back going to the buttocks, a topi style turban with earring all WRONG

[mskcan]

Jeeo,

It is unfortunate that Psychologists have the highest divorce rate amongst all people, for constantly criticizing and acting in arrogance with their closest.

Sikhi inspires higher values, and ones that do not fall into ego arguments

If I may relate the story of Peace lady, who traversed many parts of Asia and Africa, and at one time stumbling upon a tribe in Africa stated thus (as I recall the story):

'In this tribe when some individual had committed some folly, or faltered in some way, what we would say as committed a mis-demeanor or thievery, the person would be placed at the village center.

In the center of the village, all the villagers would gather and surround this individual.

Now what I saw was nothing unlike what I had expected, not a stoning, or pelting with vegetables.

Rather, the tribe would describe all the qualities of the individual that they wish to see, or has been lost by committing this folly. They would describe that they like to share happiness with them, that they are good at this, or that. They would surround the person with praise for good things they done in the past, and offered further praise for continuing those such things. They would continue to exhaust all of the good things they could about that one person.

After this, when all is done, the tribe would celebrate. The person is ultimately forgiven, and re-integrated into the community, rather being shunned. They would be asked to do service to the community of village as reprisal for their wrong act'

The suggestion is quite simple, spread love in the absence of hate and judgement

Those who judge, do not defines others by their judgement, rather define themselves as those who need to judge.

Fateh

[Starsingh]

we get angry with those closest to us because we love them most