veladh 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru Jee Kee Fateh Major beadbi happening at Singh Sabha Slough once again! The parbhandak committee has decided to put sofa-like benches which are higher than the keertani stage in the main darbar and only higher than Maharaj’s thabiya by a couple of inches. There were four placed on each side at the back. This took place on Sunday 5th April 2009 at 5.55pm while sangat were doing chaupai sahibs for the panth. A few members of the sangat got up to prevent this beadbi from occurring however the pardhan Joginder Bal and another member Avtar Cheema aggressively told them to go away. One sevadaar sarcastically said ‘congratulations we’ve turned our gurughar into a church’. Nothing happened immediately but a few hours later the pardhan came up and called the sevadaar down. ‘Come down into the office’ the sevadaar said ‘you’ll have to wait I will come after finishing sukhaasan seva’to which the pardhan replied ‘I’ve called the police so come down into the office’. After the samapati the sangat all gathered round as they were upset and outraged by seeing the benches and then to find out police had been called into gurughar. All sangat who were at Singh Sabha Slough on Sunday evening were against the idea of the benches. The benches were taken down in front of the police as the sangat were not informed about them although the committee had apparently passed it through their meetings. The police was called because Mr Bal the president ‘felt threatened’. The police took no action and just wasted their time coming down. However this Sunday 12th April 2009 the committee will be asking the sangat their views whether they want the benches in or not. According to some sangat the bibiya who do langar seva during the day and the daily baba’s that make a large proportion of the sangat are apparently in favour of having the benches in the darbar sahib and that they have been signing a petition in favour of the benches. We need the support of the sangat to stop beadbi from happening. Less than month ago, Dhan Dhan Sahib Sree Guroo Granth Sahib Maharaj Jeeo, kurbaned 11 Saroops to awaken the panth. But have we awoken? Where are the Gursikhs who would : ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਕਾਟਿ ਕਾਟਿ ਸਭੁ ਅਰਪੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਅਗਨੀ ਆਪੁ ਜਲਾਈ I would cut my mind and body apart in pieces, and offer them all to You; I would burn myself in fire: If our Guroo can burn 11 Saroops of himself for us, can we not, as his children, to prevent our Father being dishonoured in any way, come on Sunday This is true love for our Guroos, not the dikavha and pakhand we do. I know that Nagar Kirtan is taking place this Sunday but this is just as important, if not more important. We know Mr Bal will be reading this and hope he can prevent this mistake from happening. Photo evidence will be uploaded soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menu Ke Patha 18 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 laufs.. laufs again... laufs abit more.. (personal remark, not @ on the situation) regarding what happen: mr bal, pls sort it out!!! need as many sangataan as possbilee to turn up. these masands just don't wanna stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matheen 83 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 Slough Singh Sabha has one messed up committee. They have to go in the next elections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singh211 12 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 SRM Article V "Sitting on a cushion, a distinctive seat, a chair, a stool, a cot, etc. or in any distinctive position in the presence of the Guru Granth Sahib or within the congregation is contrary to Gurmat(Guru's way)." http://sgpc.net/rehat_maryada/section_three_chap_four.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HSD*^ 19 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 yeah right. the bad ones have a habit of sticking around in one form or another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harjeet.Singh 1 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 What can some people do, who are not able to sit down on the floor for prolonged periods? What alternative is there for these people? edit: also, i know some people put off going to the gurdwara, because they are unable to sit down. I think maybe so that you are not higher than Guru ji, they should make sure Guru ji has an even higher platform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supadupa 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 was Guru Arjan Ji insensitive that Guru Ji didn't make any arrangments for people who can't sit on the floor for whatever reasons? Maryaada is maryaadaa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eaek Gun Nahee 2 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 Yes I agree with parji/penji Maryaada is Maryaada No one would take chairs into Suckhkand Sri Darbar sahib then why should we do it in any other gurukar We have to keep in mind that what we do in our guru kar will we do it at suchkand sri darbar sahib same satkar should be kept as darbar sahib We also need to remember all those singhs and singhnai and gursikh children who gave kurbani for us and we cnt even sit on a floor for 1-2 hours even 15 minutes Who got cut into peaces just for us so we could seee our today we need to think really hard about our panth And if MR Bal AND Mrs. Cheema had senses and love for sikhi they would think twice abt there actions We need to remember the mistakes WE do today our next generation will have to suffer for them We need to get these MASANDS out And yes MR Bal And Mrs. Cheema I do truly call them masands A person who sells Guru Jis Rumalla Sets For 500 Pounds Each For his own benefit I have no other word to describe Them A person who cnt be truly to Dhan Dhan Pita Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj how can he be truly to a person It is now left in the hands of the sangat to decide On Sunday sumthing WILL Be Done Many Mistakes Have be put and said and I ask forgiveness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lol-at-me 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 Yes I agree with parji/penji Maryaada is Maryaada No one would take chairs into Suckhkand Sri Darbar sahib then why should we do it in any other gurukar We have to keep in mind that what we do in our guru kar will we do it at suchkand sri darbar sahib same satkar should be kept as darbar sahib We also need to remember all those singhs and singhnai and gursikh children who gave kurbani for us and we cnt even sit on a floor for 1-2 hours even 15 minutes Who got cut into peaces just for us so we could seee our today we need to think really hard about our panth And if MR Bal AND Mrs. Cheema had senses and love for sikhi they would think twice abt there actions We need to remember the mistakes WE do today our next generation will have to suffer for them We need to get these MASANDS out And yes MR Bal And Mrs. Cheema I do truly call them masands A person who sells Guru Jis Rumalla Sets For 500 Pounds Each For his own benefit I have no other word to describe Them A person who cnt be truly to Dhan Dhan Pita Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj how can he be truly to a person It is now left in the hands of the sangat to decide On Sunday sumthing WILL Be Done Many Mistakes Have be put and said and I ask forgiveness good one bro! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaRpAnCh 18 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 Idiots if they must use the excuse of oldies having problems of sitting down why not dig the floor up and make it lower by a metre thats what we have at havelock road gurdwara ,chairs are at the back and are lower than the floor in a special area where the floor goes down through a slope in to a lower level - so the actual level of the chair in level with the floor where the sangat sits Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guroo Guroo Jaap 57 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 The excuse that old people can not sit down is a bunch of bullshi*!! Look how old Guru Amar Das Ji was and he was doing continuous Seva of Guru Angad Dev Ji every morning!! I heard about this story the other day and i know the GurSikh, Dhan Guru Dhan Guru Pyare!! More of us need to be like this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhanasaree 2 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 To Mr Bal and Mrs Cheema, (who are most probably going to read this) Hello there! I hope you are satisfied with the remarks made hear. I dont know what it is that you fear so much about the youth today, maybe that they're finding their sikhi? building love for Maharaj jee and with kirpa becoming tyaar bar tyaar? Whatever it is, you certainly seem bent on trying to distort the message of sikhi, and the beautiful path these youth are trying to follow and do parchaar of well here is my message to you, and whoever you work for or sent you: You will fail. Read up if you dont know who the masands are, but you should be getting the gist of it now... your day will come, and i feel really truely sorry for you because you dont seem to know just how much paap you've put on your head. With Maharaj Jees kirpa, the sangat will carry on joining to gurbani, and therefore they'll carry on getting stronger. And there is nothing you can do or say about it. And everytime you try one of ur little tactics, we'll be there, try as you might, you cant get rid of us. You have every right to feel threatened Mr Bal, but the police can't save you from where your headed jee. Things are going to change, for the better, and maybe thats what scares you the most hope you enjoyed reading this, still unsure if it should have been posted on here though, but at least you had a chance to see how much we love you :D ਤ੍ਰਿਭੰਗੀ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤਿ ॥ ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ ॥ The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield. ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ ॥ It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum. ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ ॥ It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge. ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ ॥੨॥ Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory! vaheguroo jee ka khalsa vaheguroo jee kee fateh!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guroo Guroo Jaap 57 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 JO GAJKE JAKARA GAJAVE PHATEH PAVEH NIHAAAL HOJAVE SATTTTSRIAAKAAAAL!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eaek Gun Nahee 2 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 To Mr Bal and Mrs Cheema, (who are most probably going to read this)Hello there! I hope you are satisfied with the remarks made hear. I dont know what it is that you fear so much about the youth today, maybe that they're finding their sikhi? building love for Maharaj jee and with kirpa becoming tyaar bar tyaar? Whatever it is, you certainly seem bent on trying to distort the message of sikhi, and the beautiful path these youth are trying to follow and do parchaar of well here is my message to you, and whoever you work for or sent you: You will fail. Read up if you dont know who the masands are, but you should be getting the gist of it now... your day will come, and i feel really truely sorry for you because you dont seem to know just how much paap you've put on your head. With Maharaj Jees kirpa, the sangat will carry on joining to gurbani, and therefore they'll carry on getting stronger. And there is nothing you can do or say about it. And everytime you try one of ur little tactics, we'll be there, try as you might, you cant get rid of us. You have every right to feel threatened Mr Bal, but the police can't save you from where your headed jee. Things are going to change, for the better, and maybe thats what scares you the most hope you enjoyed reading this, still unsure if it should have been posted on here though, but at least you had a chance to see how much we love you :D ਤ੍ਰਿਭੰਗੀ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤਿ ॥ ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ ॥ The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield. ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ ॥ It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum. ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ ॥ It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge. ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ ॥੨॥ Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory! vaheguroo jee ka khalsa vaheguroo jee kee fateh!! AKAAAAALLL !!!!!!!! :pray: ਤ੍ਰਿਭੰਗੀ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤਿ ॥ ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ ॥ The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield. ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ ॥ It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum. ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ ॥ It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge. ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ ॥੨॥ Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akritghan 2 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 To Mr Bal and Mrs Cheema, (who are most probably going to read this)Hello there! I hope you are satisfied with the remarks made hear. I dont know what it is that you fear so much about the youth today, maybe that they're finding their sikhi? building love for Maharaj jee and with kirpa becoming tyaar bar tyaar? Whatever it is, you certainly seem bent on trying to distort the message of sikhi, and the beautiful path these youth are trying to follow and do parchaar of well here is my message to you, and whoever you work for or sent you: You will fail. Read up if you dont know who the masands are, but you should be getting the gist of it now... your day will come, and i feel really truely sorry for you because you dont seem to know just how much paap you've put on your head. With Maharaj Jees kirpa, the sangat will carry on joining to gurbani, and therefore they'll carry on getting stronger. And there is nothing you can do or say about it. And everytime you try one of ur little tactics, we'll be there, try as you might, you cant get rid of us. You have every right to feel threatened Mr Bal, but the police can't save you from where your headed jee. Things are going to change, for the better, and maybe thats what scares you the most hope you enjoyed reading this, still unsure if it should have been posted on here though, but at least you had a chance to see how much we love you :D ਤ੍ਰਿਭੰਗੀ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕਾਲ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਉਸਤਤਿ ॥ ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ ॥ The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield. ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ ॥ It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum. ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ ॥ It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge. ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ ॥੨॥ Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory! vaheguroo jee ka khalsa vaheguroo jee kee fateh!! AKAAAAAAAAAAAL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites