More Problems For Canadian Sikhs

[GPS]

GPS,

If you have a team of 'reliable sources' and you are 'gathering information' perhaps you could take a look at who the main workers for WSO currently are. You might be surprised to see just how Panthic they are. I personally support and work with WSO and if you do a bit of research I think you'll be hard pressed to show that I support Ragi or anything else you might deem 'anti-panthic'.

Singh 132 ji

You may be an exception.By the way what position you have in WSO?

I have scores of relatives who are living in BC Canada for decades.Few of them

are very knowledagble on Dasam Bani and they feel that WSo is playing a ngative role.They are not far from truth considering the role played by

certain organizations palyed against sikh panth.Notably among them is so called a private Gurudwara Singh sabha canada that provided stage to Darshan ragi to promote

balsphemy.Dashmesh Darbar is not far behind.

WSO is supposed to represent sikh interests/Are not they supposed to issue appeal asking such people to refrain from violating akal takhat edicts as they call for not to indulge in spaeking against dasam bani.If they have performed a role like this kindly inform sangat here.This was the most critical issue facing sikhs and we would like sangat to be informed waht role was palyed by WSO at this critical juncture.

Pleaae keepp in mind there is no smoke without fire.

Inderjit Singh Bains smashed it at the nagar kirtans offical stage!

Sangat gave full support, Hundreds stopped to listen to Bains and he said that he cannot forget those that shed salt upon the wounds of Sikhs, i.e. Dosanjh!

The Dhadi competitions have been great too.

Gagandip Singh - Personal Statement

yeah, he smashed Sikhis four doors, open to all, to three doors. You must be really proud of his taliban mentality.

What's next a certain political party is not invited to the Nagar Kirtan.

Just Pathetic people who say they are Sikhs are supporting this mentality.

only five ji

Please inform us about role of dashmesh darbar in this? They have violated akal takhat directives earlier in recent episode.

What do you think about their stance in this issue.

[apnepart2]

http://www.globaltvb...0513/story.html

The mayor left the parade when the float depicting Beant Singh and Satwant Singh appeared. Even National Liberal leader is demanding an apology. City of Surrey will review if the parade can be allowed next year. All becoz of one stupid comment. Same mentality that defamed us a few weaks ago at Sikh leher centre. Fools!

I think something very fishy is going on all over. Or maybe we need lesser politics in our religious life.

[GPS]

In my opinion Bains was clear. Hayer and Dosanjh have never been invited to the Nagat Kirtan and if they come, they should bring their own security. There is no room here for misintrepretation. Whether these politicians support the Sikh community is completely irrevelant and has nothing to do with invitations. Nagar Kirtan is open to everyone, just like a Gurdwara, as long as you follow the proper conduct. No one should get a special invitations and others can't be told you're not invited.

If Dosanjh and other man come to nagar kirtan they should be more concerned about their security.They know more than Bains about their security.

Bains need not to remind them.in my opinion he was scaring them and giving an indirect threat.

[buddasingh]

Bains could have been wiser in his choice of words, but it it is a non-story. My guess is that something else was prepared and ready to go to press as a negative controversy. Bains said this and it was a better concoction than whatever they had ready to go.

1. Bains has been identified as an “organizer” of a nagar kirtan. So what? What is the significance of that capacity in relation to representing an entire community? He is one of so many people volunteering to put together a nagar kirtan…it does not make him president and representative of anyone.

2. Why has what Bains said, as unwise as it is, clearly and repeatedly mistranslated and taken way out of proportion?

3. The MP and MLA are clearly biased in not attending as politicians this nagar kirtan for years on end. They are clearly longstanding political opponents of the gurudwaras behind this nagar kirtan. Did they disclose their longstanding personal bias and personal interest to the police when they decided to make complaints? Do they not have a duty to their office as members of parliament and member of legislature to disclose that so they are not abusing their office? Did the MP not state that he does not fear for his safety? The MP and MLA have enormous political interest here and are using their positions and complaints to the police to advance their politics. I would think there is a stronger investigation of criminal influence peddling against the MP and MLA than the strength of a threatening case against Bains.

[N30S1NGH]

http://www.globaltvb...0513/story.html

The mayor left the parade when the float depicting Beant Singh and Satwant Singh appeared. Even National Liberal leader is demanding an apology. City of Surrey will review if the parade can be allowed next year. All becoz of one stupid comment. Same mentality that defamed us a few weaks ago at Sikh leher centre. Fools!

I think something very fishy is going on all over. Or maybe we need lesser politics in our religious life.

What a waste of time and space...!! You know i was told never to label vaishakhi parade as jaloos because what it represents. But these days, it has became just jaloos (tamasha) and mockery of sikhs in front of whole world because of pitty tu tu mein mein between moderates(dosanjh) and other group (dasmesh darbar) going on for years. Because of their issues whole sikh community gets negative media. I am sick tired of some joe blow comes spew some open remarks and walks off and whole community suffer because this person is one of organizer of parade.

Also another note, may be Canadian media have only seen militant(bir ras) side of sikhi, may be our leaders are hell bent to show them that only. May be good idea to put floats to show mixture of miri and piri aspects of sikhi next year. Oh forgot, their might not be vaishakhi sikh parade in surrey because few un-authorize self pro claim representative of sikh community.

May be an wrong or extreme thought, all the gurdwara in Canada should be controlled by sgpc. Atleast our jathedars back home come up statements once and while than these incompetent leaders we have here, who makes an remarks which are open to many interpretations and top of that, refuse to clarify or apologize. This kind of outright intimidation have to be stopped. I don't care how many personal issues one has with dosanjh and hayer, deal with it personally. Don't bring our kaum name to your personal squabbles.

[Guest Bloom]

In My Opinion,

It Is Very Important To Understand Politics. When Heads Of State Make A Comment To Another Head Of State It Has A Very Powerful Undertone. Now Look At The What Has Happened. CongRSS Attacked Sikhs In 80 Onwards. They Attacked Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib And Many Other Gurdwaras At The Same Time. The Replica Sri Harmandir Sahib That Was Made, This Was Planned Years and Years In Advance. They Attacked On Gurpurab. Media Ban. Much Much More. Then After Kp Gill And Their Gangs Eliminated Countless Sikhs. The Attack Was On Sikhi. Baba Jarnail Singh Jee Was Aware Of The Advanced Attacks And Defended. But The Propaganda Machine Of GOI Lies Lies and More Lies To Give Sikhs The Bad Name, Where In Reality GOI Is Behind Everything Very Systematically. The World Will Find Out The Truth And The World Will Fall In Love With True Khalsa Dharma And Will Love Sikhs.

GOI Was Behind The Bombings Of Air India.

Now Look At What CongRSS Got Done, Same Goal, Different Strategy. They Got Their Agents Sarnas To Attempt To Make Sure Khalsa Does Not Rise. They Attacked Sri DasamGuruKaGranth Sahib Jee. Darshan Ragi Is Well Known For Ties With Congress. Even In 80's Singhs Had Warned About Darshan Ragis Ties With GOI.

GOI Has Flooded Punjab With Alcohol and Drugs. This Is Done Very Systematically. Badals Are Also Involved, Even Though It Is Also Congress Agenda. Big Evil Corrupt $$$ And Power.

Punjab Is Blessed By Guru Jee. It Is Bread Basket. But People Of Punjab Have To Become Gursikhs.

GOI With Help Of Other Panthic Dhusts Including Badals Have Tried To Remove All History Of Sikhs. Marbling Everything, Removing History, In The Guise Of 'Kar Seva' Etc. It Is GOI Agenda. Flooding Punjab With 'Non-Sikhs'. They Have Long Term Systematic Plans To Finish Sikhi. How Can They Succeed? Don't They Know That True Khalsa Dharma Is Created By Akaal Purakh And Is Eternal? Don't They Realize The Whole World Is Going To Fall In Love With True Khalsa Dharma?

Darshan Laal Is Sent From Country To Country To Give Bad Name To Sikhs. They Had A Systematic Plan. Coincidence Manmohan Brings Up 'Khalistan' Issue With Canadian Government At Vaisakhi Time? Coincidence Politicians Of Canada Get Involved? NO.

It Just Takes A Spark To Set A Fire. It Is All Systematic.

Sikhs All Over The World Should Bring Guru Jees Dharma To The Whole World. Represent Well In Media Etc. Bring Up Sikh Issues Very Intelligently And Articulately. The GOI Ways Are Very Cunning. Take Darshan Laal For Example. They Get Goons To Attack, And Then They Portray To Media They Got Attacked. GOI Does Things Like This In Bigger Ways.

GOI Is Behind The Systematic Attacks On Sikhs. There Is No Need For Worry Whatsoever. Sikhs In Canada And Around The World Should Do Things Intelligently.

Remember One Things About Evil Politicians. What Ever Suits Them At The Time, That's The Way They Sway. So It Is Best To Bring A Good Name To Sikhs All Over The World, Without Letting These Bullies Bully. True Khalsa Dharma Is Eternal, Share It With The World.

Also, Don't Believe Anything Lehar Center Says. They Work For GOI Agenda. As Long As I Am Concerned, They Are Working Behind The Scenes To Attack Sikhs Including Sri Kirpaan Sahib. Fake Sikhs Will Be Behind Their Attacks (Like T. Sher) Etc. On Practicing Sikhs. It Is Also Believed That T. Sher Is Known To Have Girlfriend(s) and Sip On Alcohol, But Yet He Tries To Cunningly Come Across As A 'sikh'. Such People Like T.Sher And Mangat Are Trained In Lying And Spreading Propaganda. These Fake Sikhs Think They Know Better Than Guru Jee, And Are Out To Destroy True Khalsa Dharma For Their Egos. In Dargah All Will Be Known. It Is Best To Get Panthic Gurdwaras Together (From All Over The World) Who Will Support Sikh Rights To Fight Against Forces That Might Attack Sikhs (Through Legal Courts Etc). There Should Always Be A Pool Of Funds Available To Fight Such Matters In Legal Courts All Over The World (The Funds Should Be In 10's Of Millions Of $$$ USD Minimum).

Canadians Should Perhaps Be Ready To Fight Legal Battles.

Such Funds Should Also Be Used To Support Sikhs In Countries Where Sri Dastaar Sahib Etc Are Being Attacked, Etc. True Panthic Organizations Perhaps Teamed Up With Authentic Organizations That Will Be Along With Practicing Sikhs Should Join Together.

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan. All Will Be Well.

Don't Forget You'll Have Enemies Of Sikhs In Media Etc. LOL. Like One Kim Bolan (And More). Kim Bolan, Does Her Name Stand For

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And By The Way, Who Is This Bains Person? What Came To Mind Is This. GOI Wants To Give Sikhs A Bad Name (Example Canada). Darshan Laal Is There, But Need More. Manmohan Is Involved As Demonstrated Talking To Government In Canada. They Need Canadian Politicians Involved (To Side With GOI). Get Someone To Make Some Remarks (Pre-Planned) To Get Politicians Involved (Pre-Planned) For GOI Agenda (Pre-Planned). I Dunno, Something Is Cooking, And Congress Manmohan Smells Like Rotten Turka. LOL. Always Remember, Manmohan Is Behind His Sajjan Kumar, Tytler, Kp Gill Etc. Don't Be Fooled By The 'Turban'. Kp Gill Also Wears A Turban, So Do Badals, So Do Sarnas, So Do Many Killers Who Kill Sikhs For GOI. Manmohan Is Just An Extention Of Evil Indira Ghandi Agenda.

Dhan Dhan True Khalsa Dharma (Which Of Course Includes Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Patshah Baanee, Ang Sang Sri Kakaar Sahib Jees and Saving From Bajjar Paaps).

The Whole World Is Going To Fall In Love With True Khalsa Dharma (Which Of Course Also Includes Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Patshah Baanee And Ang Sang Sri Panj Kakaar Sahib Jees).

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan. SatNaam.

Chardhi Kala !!

[Guest Bloom]

Also Further In My Opinion,

It Is Very Important That No Violence Occurs Against Dosanjh Or Anyone Else. You Can Read On The Dosasnjh Wikepedia Page (Just Type In Ujjal Dosanjh And Search His Wikepedia Page), And You Can See His Connections, Ties and Love To Congress Of India. He Is Influenced By His Father Who Was A Jawaharlal Nehru Congress Loyalist. It Makes Perfect Sense. You Can Also See Nehrus Page And See He Later Became An Atheist. (Congress Is An Atheist Party That Is Well Known For Brutalities And Murder). Atheist Congress Works With Hindu Extremists To Together Attack Sikhs. The Attacks On Sri DasamGuruKaGranth Sahib Jee And Sikh Dharma Are Congress and RSS Combined (Sarna). The Attacks On Sikhs (Physical) In 80's Onwards Are Also Congress And RSS Combined. True Khalsa Dharma (Which Of Course Includes Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Patshah Baanee) Is Eternal. The Whole World Is Going To Fall In Love With True Khalsa Dharma. Tell The Whole World Very Diplomatically The Truth About What GOI Did And Their Systematic Attack On Sikhs, The GOI Propaganda Lies And Much More. Dosanjh Is Connected To Congress. (It Is Very Important That NO Violence Occurs Against Dosanjh Or Anyone Else).

Also, It Just Takes A Spark To Set A Fire. The Agenda Is To Make Sikhs Look Bad. Manmohan Of India Brings Up Sikh Issues With Canadian Government. Dosanjh (Connected To Congress) Sets The Spark To Start The Fire (Pre-Planned By Congress). This Involves Media Propaganda. GOI Has Infilitrated Many Countries Including UK, Canada And More. Dosanjh Is Connected To Congress Of India, And Does GOI Bidding To Attack Sikhs In Canada. It Is Very Important NO VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER Occurs Against Dosangh Or Anyone Else. Dosanjh Is Influencing Canadian Officials For GOI Agendas; How Sad For Canada That They Have Evil GOI Agents In Their Politics. GOI Is One Of The Dirtiest Evil Regimes Known To Mankind, And Canadians Have GOI Agents As Heads In Canadian Politics Such As Dosanjh. Canadian Governments Which Are Known For Their Human Rights Should Remove Dosanjh From Office; He Is Tarnishing The Image Of The Canadian Government, And Bringing Dirty GOI Congress 'India' To Canada. The Canadian Officials Should Be Made Aware Of The Truths Of 1980's And The Systematic Attack On Sikhs That Are Now Being Further Cunningly Propagated By GOI Congress Dosanjh. (It Is Important No Violence Occurs Against Dosanjh Or Anyone Else).

The Question Is, Why Is The Canadian Government Connected To The Evil Congress Regime Of GOI And Their Systematic Attack On Sikhs?

(Also, It Is Best To Keep Khalistan Out Of It. Share The Beauty Of True Khalsa Dharma With The Whole World. Speaking Of Khalistan (Showing Bravado Etc.) Will Lead To Being Attacked By The Atheist Evil GOI. It Is Best To Show The Whole World The Greatness Of True Khalsa Dharma And When The World Falls In Love With Sikhi, Sikhs Will Automatically Be Given All Power Willingly. Be Strategic.) Show The World Puraataan Shaheeds Including Guru Jees. Show Purataan Shaheeds And Their Love For Humanity And Dharma. It Is Best To Be Strategic. Puraatan Shaheeds Would Include Baba Deep Singh Jee And His Shaheed Fauj, Bhai Mani Singh Jee, Bhai Taru Singh Jee, The Singhs And Singhnees That Stopped The Train To Feed Langar And More. Show Guru Arjan Dev Jees Shaheedee. Show Guru Tegh Bahadur Jees Shaheedee. Show Sahibzadeh Saheedees. Show Chalee Mukate Shaheedees. Show Shaheeds That Are Not Affiliated With The Current Sikh Homeland Love, And THEN Strategically Work For Sikh Justice And Sikh Causes (Including Sikh Homeland Love). It Is Best To Be Strategic. Think Far In Advance. Always Remember One Thing, GOI Has Military Might (Which They Used Against Innocent Sikhs), And GOI Has Influence In International Governments. The Propaganda Of GOI Has Been There For Decades Against Sikhs, Counter That By Showing The Greatness Of True Khalsa Dharma. By Bringing Guru Jees Langar To The World. By Sharing Guru Jees Keertan In Guru Jees Raags With Guru Jees Instruments By Guru Jees Nishkhaam Gursikhs. Show The Love Of Sri Amrit Sanchaars, The Love Of Pooran Brahmgyaanee Bhai Gurdaas Jee Baanee Etc. Automatically The Whole World Will Be Looking To Uplift Their Souls By Seeking The Dust Of Guru Jees Dharma And Guru Jees Gursikhs. All Raaj Will Fall At The Feet Of Guru Jees Dharma. Also At The Same Time Show The Love And Reasons For Sikh Homeland Love To The Officials And The World Very Lovingly, Strategically, Intelligently, Articulately, Diplomatically, Lawfully, Etc. All Governments Will Fully Understand And Love Sikhs. The Whole World Is Going To Fall In Love With Sikh Dharma. Dhan Dhan True Khalsa Dharma (Which Of Course Includes Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Patshah Baanee).

True Sikhs (Whom Love Sri Dasam Patshah Baanee, Sri Amrit Sanchaars, Ang Sang Sri Kakaar Sahibs, Saving From Bajjar Paaps, Etc) In All Devoloped Nations Including US, Uk, Canada, Australia, Germany; Even Especially In Devoloping India (Though In Hindustan Must Be Very Very Careful Of GOI Of Hindustan. The GOI Are Well Known For Their Fake Encounters Etc Against Sikhs.) Sikhs Must Show Themselves As Intelligent, Articulate, Strategic, Yet RehatVaan, Loving, Etc, To Media And The World. Work Through Diplomatic Strategies. Guru Jee Has Provided All The Tools To Make The Whole World Fall In Love With True Khalsa Dharma. Set Up Channels (More The Better) Which Share True Khalsa Dharma (Of Course Including Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Patshah Baanee) Etc. With The World

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan.

The Whole World Is Going To Fall In Love With True Khalsa Dharma.

The Love Of True Khalsa Dharma Will Fly In All Skies On All Lands.

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan.

[Only five]

GPS,

If you have a team of 'reliable sources' and you are 'gathering information' perhaps you could take a look at who the main workers for WSO currently are. You might be surprised to see just how Panthic they are. I personally support and work with WSO and if you do a bit of research I think you'll be hard pressed to show that I support Ragi or anything else you might deem 'anti-panthic'.

Singh 132 ji

You may be an exception.By the way what position you have in WSO?

I have scores of relatives who are living in BC Canada for decades.Few of them

are very knowledagble on Dasam Bani and they feel that WSo is playing a ngative role.They are not far from truth considering the role played by

certain organizations palyed against sikh panth.Notably among them is so called a private Gurudwara Singh sabha canada that provided stage to Darshan ragi to promote

balsphemy.Dashmesh Darbar is not far behind.

WSO is supposed to represent sikh interests/Are not they supposed to issue appeal asking such people to refrain from violating akal takhat edicts as they call for not to indulge in spaeking against dasam bani.If they have performed a role like this kindly inform sangat here.This was the most critical issue facing sikhs and we would like sangat to be informed waht role was palyed by WSO at this critical juncture.

Pleaae keepp in mind there is no smoke without fire.

Inderjit Singh Bains smashed it at the nagar kirtans offical stage!

Sangat gave full support, Hundreds stopped to listen to Bains and he said that he cannot forget those that shed salt upon the wounds of Sikhs, i.e. Dosanjh!

The Dhadi competitions have been great too.

Gagandip Singh - Personal Statement

yeah, he smashed Sikhis four doors, open to all, to three doors. You must be really proud of his taliban mentality.

What's next a certain political party is not invited to the Nagar Kirtan.

Just Pathetic people who say they are Sikhs are supporting this mentality.

only five ji

Please inform us about role of dashmesh darbar in this? They have violated akal takhat directives earlier in recent episode.

What do you think about their stance in this issue.

Dashmesh Darbar has not been looking out for the Sikh community's best interest for a long time. They have been on their own agenda. And with this stunt Bains pulled and then at the Nagar Kirtan Damesh Darbar gave him time on stage to spit more venom, tells you that these guys are wanting Sikhi to be seen only as a terrorist religion and those that wear the Bana will be targeted here in Canada.

It's hitting two birds with one stone. Dosanjh, already has been on a path of discrediting Sikhi for a long period of time and now Damesh Darbar associates and so called Prof Gurwinder are joining in.

Bains stupidity, Damesh Darbar's, sly ways of targeting Sikhi, and Gurwinder Singhs sly ways to target Sikhi need to be exposed to the media so then people can get a clear picture of all three of these corrupt entities.

At the end of the day all three of these are in favor of Darshan Laal. And it's know that Darshan laal is only looking out for the best interest of the congress plans.

To say these events are just happening at random is real stupid. They are very much connected to each other and being done by the same organization.

[SunSingh]

satwant singh and beant singhs pics appear on floats every year without problems, every year there are khalistan flags and speeches. world economy is going down, nations need strong trading partners, india is it.not hard to put 2 and 2 together.

[Only five]

Bains could have been wiser in his choice of words, but it it is a non-story. My guess is that something else was prepared and ready to go to press as a negative controversy. Bains said this and it was a better concoction than whatever they had ready to go.

1. Bains has been identified as an "organizer" of a nagar kirtan. So what? What is the significance of that capacity in relation to representing an entire community? He is one of so many people volunteering to put together a nagar kirtan…it does not make him president and representative of anyone.

It absolutely represent's the Nagar Kirtan, because he is one of the organizers and if being a organizer doesn't mean anything then why was he given more time to spit his venom at the Nagar Kirtan. If a organizer and an independant person who just came to Nagar Kirtan are seen as the same then why wasn't a Independant person given time to spit their venom on the main stage of the Nagar Kirtan.

And Inderjit Singh Bains is one of the directors of Damesh Darbar Gurdwara.

2. Why has what Bains said, as unwise as it is, clearly and repeatedly mistranslated and taken way out of proportion?

N30 Singh, presented the audio of this topic, where cbc.ca is discussing it and nothing was mistranslated. And the tone of his voice could mean it was a threat. In my opinion it was a threat and Punjab radio along with Bains should be held responsible for their actions, specifically Prof Gurwinder Singh for allowing such words on the talk show.

3. The MP and MLA are clearly biased in not attending as politicians this nagar kirtan for years on end. They are clearly longstanding political opponents of the gurudwaras behind this nagar kirtan. Did they disclose their longstanding personal bias and personal interest to the police when they decided to make complaints? Do they not have a duty to their office as members of parliament and member of legislature to disclose that so they are not abusing their office? Did the MP not state that he does not fear for his safety? The MP and MLA have enormous political interest here and are using their positions and complaints to the police to advance their politics. I would think there is a stronger investigation of criminal influence peddling against the MP and MLA than the strength of a threatening case against Bains.

Singh it's know the government doesn't like Sikhs. But it's just as wrong for Bains to spit vomit when he is an organizer of the Nagar Kirtan and a director of Damesh Darbar. His position is a direct representation of the Nagar Kirtan In my opinion, Bains stunt was done intentionally to give Sikhs even a worse name than before here in Canada. It's known these people support Darshan Laal and are just waiting for an opening to invite him here to cause more trouble for the TrueSikhs and accomplish their goal of given even worse name than now to the True Sikhs.