Bibeki-what do you eat?

[WalkingTowardTheLight]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Sadh sangat ji, for gursikhs who follow the rule that they can't eat food made by non-amritdharis....I have a question - what do you eat then? Are the following things allowed:

-Bread

-Cheese/butter

-Chips, cookies, or any other such thing (cereal bars, etc.)

-Salad (that's been cut by a non-amritdhari)

-Canned food

-Yogurt, milk

I am sorry if this is a controversial topic, but I really need to know about this ASAP. I don't want to start arguments here, just want to know what you eat or don't eat. I am a moorakh, so please forgive my ignorance.

Bhul chuk maaf karna ji.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Jaspaul Singh]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Sadh sangat ji, for gursikhs who follow the rule that they can't eat food made by non-amritdharis....I have a question - what do you eat then?  Are the following things allowed:

-Bread

-Cheese/butter

-Chips, cookies, or any other such thing (cereal bars, etc.)

-Salad (that's been cut by a non-amritdhari)

-Canned food

-Yogurt, milk

I am sorry if this is a controversial topic, but I really need to know about this ASAP.  I don't want to start arguments here, just want to know what you eat or don't eat.  I am a moorakh, so please forgive my ignorance. 

Bhul chuk maaf karna ji. 

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Hmmm.. interesting...

This shouldnt be a controversial topic.. i dont think i saw this one under the list. How about atta (to make rotis) ..they are rooted by a non-amritdhari... do u still eat roti !?!

And what about saag.. as that comes from vegetables.. etc..

Sorry bhul chuk .. just curious... :wub:

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

all of that stuff u cant eat if ure bibeki

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Akaali]

some cookies/cereal bars have eggs in them..

For keeping bibek, all depends on the person, most people who decide to keep bibek, eat food cooked by an amritdhari singh/singhni. They don't eat out (mcDonalds, Harveys, even if they are vegi burgers).

[Jkaur]

i know this is a bit off the topic but why is maintaining bibek is counted important? what is the significant of bein a bibeki?

[Deep Singh]

I second JKaur ji. Really want to know that. I know RehatNameh say that partly, but don't think every part is from there either.

And i am not starting a debate but like to know Sangat's views. The aata (wheat) we cook chapatis from is perhaps also from Non-Amritdhari farms. Do we have to plant the wheat ourselves, hence being farmers if the "best bibeek"? The fertilizers (khaad) used in agriculture are from non-amritdharis and often includes animal-excrete (in punjab..majaan deh gobaar), which is also related to non-veg food. Even in the most ecological agriculture it is impossible to create something (from it's true source) to before totaly free from non-amritdhari/maleechs' hands.

Second, the water we drink can never be 'not from a non-amritdharis hand', as it is always from fresh water sources where it is distilled probably by non-amritdharis, or in punjab from wells ect where the whole village have the same source of water.

Sangat ji i am not undermining the Rehat of Bibeek or neglecting it, but asking: where does the limit go...when is the food acceptable..in what way are wheat and beans non-veg (made up of animal-excrete plus solar energy and water, where numerous animals live)? Is the Rehat in the sence of 'we should not eat food from unhonest hands' or is it as Bibeeki (discriminative) as it sounds?

[Jkaur]

well maybe virji SOGGSJ or virji mkhalsa can help.. or any of the sangat can answer dis query of mine above

[moorakh mugadh]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

mere bolan da hak ta nhai he becuse i myself is a big kureti BUT

JINNE REHAT GURU SAHIB UNEE KUCH,this is true u asked oil,butter khad but veerje jithe tak we can reach we should do baki allha malik,guru janee jaan hun :wub: take care mate.

[Gupat Singhni]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Bibek is just not about the food you cannot eat or who it's made by. It's also about the way the found is made.

Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh was known as bibeki because he only hungered or thirsted for naam. Siraff Naam.

Cheese, butter, bread, cookies, etc that are not made at home are just exceptions. At the end of the day, the less you eat from outside the more you can ensure you food is prepared in a Gursikh way, you are guarantee suchum and if it's bibek it will have the asSAR of naam..

The point is the food should be prepared by Amritdhaari's that keep their rehat and they should really be doing paath or simran. So when this food is consumed that person will also benefit from the naam and simran done by the singh/singhni that has prepared that meal. In turn that singh and singhni will also do naam. Naam is the essence of our lives and that is what we are here to do...

If the food is prepared gossiping about things than that is that asSAR that will be on the poeple that eat the food.

I hope this helps clarify things a little..

Bhul Chuk Maaf!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Deep Singh]

:wub: So it is actually the thing that the persons making food should do Naam as they prepare it. We are thanking Waheguru for what we got.That is just GREAT! Thanks bhainji!