International Panthic Dal - Official Statement

[PanthicDal 1]

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ||

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ ||

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

THE UK CONTINGENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL PANTHIC DAL HAS NOW OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED IN THE UK.

We need people from all walks of life to come forward and contribute. More information will be made available in due course.

The attached statement is in response to the following:-

It was 30th June 2011 when we first heard the term anti-India used by the Indian 'Machinary'. Indian External Affairs Minister Mr.Krishna met

Foreign Sec. Mr. William Hague in London and commented about the 'anti-India demonstrations' being held in the UK, referring to

pro-Khalistan Sikhs demo at Trafalgar Square and possible Kamal Nath demo in London.

Indian Express newspaper headline was 'Uk assures India-will curb anti-India protests'.

The second time was approx 20 July 2011 with the arrest of Gulab Nabi Fai in the USA, the arrest was headlined by Indian papers and then by

western news agencies as 'anti-Indian Lobbyist arrested'.

IPD Regarding the Human Race as one.pdf

[MS1NGH 35]

why do people keep setting up all of these different organisations. why must you have some sort of power and authority? our supreme body is akaal takht. In the uk we should all unite behind the sikh council uk. khalsa panth has its leader, sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj no one else

[Karku_007 8]

why do people keep setting up all of these different organisations. why must you have some sort of power and authority? our supreme body is akaal takht. In the uk we should all unite behind the sikh council uk. khalsa panth has its leader, sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj no one else

Why has the post by Punjab 5 been removed, which was asking certain questions about the IPD ????

[PanthicDal 1]

Why has the post by Punjab 5 been removed, which was asking certain questions about the IPD ????

!!! BECAUSE HE IS THE EPITOME OF THAT WHAT A SIKH SHOULD NOT BE !!!

I.P.D WILL COLLABORATE, WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WITH ANY OTHER ORGANISATION THAT UPHOLDS RESPECT FOR

SAHIB SRI GURU GRANTH JI MAHARAJ AND GURU KHALSA PANTH.

WAKE UP, SNIFF THE COFFEE !! IT'S THE 21st CENTURY SO GET WITH IT !!

COME ON....LET'S WORK OUT WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS !!

why do we waste our time and energy writing slur about others when in

that time you could have:-

done an ardaas for the Panth

or

recited chaupai

or

drafted a letter to an MP

or

flagged an anti-Sikh video on youtube as offensive

or

put forward constructive ideas

or

YOU DECIDE HOW YOU CAN HELP THE PANTH ACHIEVE ITS LONG OVERDUE AMBITIONS

[Karku_007 8]

!!! BECAUSE HE IS THE EPITOME OF THAT WHAT A SIKH SHOULD NOT BE !!!

I.P.D WILL COLLABORATE, WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WITH ANY OTHER ORGANISATION THAT UPHOLDS RESPECT FOR

SAHIB SRI GURU GRANTH JI MAHARAJ AND GURU KHALSA PANTH.

All that was asked were some simple questions for clarification, if IPD is to respected then transperncy is important. Asking some questions for clarity is not against Sikhi, attacking an organisation maybe.

Unfortunatley l cannot remember all the questions asked, maybe the Moderators can put the post by Punjab 5 up again, so IPD can answer the questions asked, unless IPD has something to hide ?

[PanthicDal 1]

All that was asked were some simple questions for clarification, if IPD is to respected then transperncy is important. Asking some questions for clarity is not against Sikhi, attacking an organisation maybe.

Unfortunatley l cannot remember all the questions asked, maybe the Moderators can put the post by Punjab 5 up again, so IPD can answer the questions asked, unless IPD has something to hide ?

Humble apology, the comment was really meant for Punjab5. I wish not to prolong the discussion on this thread other than to say that I.P.D has got nothing to hide. We are genuinely here to ensure Sikhs around the world come together and make a positive change towards the betterment of the Khalsa Panth.

International Panthic Dal (I.P.D) is working on the Sikh principles of Miri-Piri representing temporal and spiritual balance the following aims are being pursued:

Freedom - to practice Sikhism globally and establish an independent Sikh State;

Justice - to obtain justice for the victims of anti-Sikh acts;

Parchaar - to promote Sikhism around the globe;

Seva - to undertake selfless service of humanity;

Welfare - to provide welfare support to Panthic individuals, families and groups;

Feel free to contact us for further information or if you want to get involved at info@panthicdal.com

[K Singh 82 54]

To be honest, Punjab5 raised some very valid points. I too don't understand the need to remove his post?!? Any jathebandi that proclaims to be a panthis jathebandi is open to scrutiny from the panth...IPD should be no acception.

[punjab5 18]

Humble apology, the comment was really meant for Punjab5. I wish not to prolong the discussion on this thread other than to say that I.P.D has got nothing to hide. We are genuinely here to ensure Sikhs around the world come together and make a positive change towards the betterment of the Khalsa Panth.

International Panthic Dal (I.P.D) is working on the Sikh principles of Miri-Piri representing temporal and spiritual balance the following aims are being pursued:

Freedom - to practice Sikhism globally and establish an independent Sikh State;

Justice - to obtain justice for the victims of anti-Sikh acts;

Parchaar - to promote Sikhism around the globe;

Seva - to undertake selfless service of humanity;

Welfare - to provide welfare support to Panthic individuals, families and groups;

Feel free to contact us for further information or if you want to get involved at info@panthicdal.com

My questions were not aimed at attacking the IPD, but merley questions for clarification. I am suprised that these were removed, i as far as saying that i am seriously considering withdrawing from Sikh sangat discussions.

The aims of IPD are applaudable, but are similar to a number of existing organisations. If one of the the aims is to ensure that Sikhs around the world come together, then were all existing organisations invited and consulted with, including in Punjab, Akali Dal Amritsar, Akali Dal panch pardani, Dal Khalsa, in the UK, the SF UK, Akand Kirtani jatha, Sikh Council?

Would expect some answers to earlier questions asked, this would clarify a lot of issues and may encourage people to join IPD.

[S1ngh 1,842]

Reply was deleted because of character defamation. Please be careful and stay away from idea of writing some very serious allegations without providing any proper proof.

[punjab5 18]

Reply was deleted because of character defamation. Please be careful and stay away from idea of writing some very serious allegations without providing any proper proof.

Could you please e-mail me personally on the character defamation, as l do not feel that i did, however stand to be corrected.

[Aman0001 71]

The Sikh Federation Uk have been in this space for a number of years already. From what I understand recently thay have:-

* Organised the Sikh Freedom Rally in Trafalguar Square.

* Became an umbrella organisation of the Sikh Council UK, to ensure that all UK based Sikh organisations speak with one voice.

* They have actively lobbied the UK government on issues such as the professor bhullar case, turban issue in airports, articles of faith issues etc etc

* They do not have a formal international setup (i.e. Sikh Federations are not based all over the world), however, they work with all the key players from Canada, America etc to form a more fluid international coalition i.e. why recreate the wheel when you can just work with organisations already up and running.

So my question are:-

* Do we really need the I.P.D, why not just join the Sikh Federation?

* Will you be working with the Sikh Federation on common causes or simply duplicating efforts?

* Will you be developing a good relationship with the Sikh Federation or has the I.P.D been set up in the UK as the members are individuals who do not get on with the Sikh Federation?

[Toofana 51]

Sikh Federation are doing an unbelievably excellent job and with Maharaj's kirpa will continue to do so. They have an excellent track record. Unity is our strength. If IPD isn't really bring much new to the table maybe they should just let the sangat focus their support on one succesful body instead of diverting sangats attention.

[Into the Light 149]

Agree with the last 2 comments.

What will IPD do that existing jathebandiya aren't?

[JagtarSinghKhalsa 229]

Sikh Federation are doing an unbelievably excellent job and with Maharaj's kirpa will continue to do so. They have an excellent track record. Unity is our strength. If IPD isn't really bring much new to the table maybe they should just let the sangat focus their support on one succesful body instead of diverting sangats attention.

WATCH THE SPACE IN THE NEXT 7 DAYS

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE COMING FROM THE SIKH FEDERATION (UK)

[NeverForget84dotcom 79]

An Organisation run by Jasbir Singh Rode? enough said...