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Sant Samaj Isn'T Corrupt. Its Leadership Is. (Like Akal Thakht, Taksal, Akali Dal Etc). International Panthic Dal, Dhumma, Rode, Dadu Wale - All Same!


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This issue was being discussed (off-topic) in another thread and I thought a seperate thread should be started with the information below to discuss this and state all the FACTS that clearly expose the reaility. The post below states all the facts (not nindya) which are important for every Sikh to be aware of.

Sant Samaj isn't corrupt. Its leadership is. (like Akal Thakht, Taksal, Akali Dal etc)

International Panthic Dal, Dhumma, Rode, Dadu Wale - all same!

Sant Samaj, the once respected organisation of Sikhs for many years, is no longer independent. This is sad news.

Yes, there are still genuine good Sants in there who are doing good, BUT, its LEADERSHIP has been corrupted and bought out by the corrupt leaders and masters of the Shiromani Akali Dal. It can no longer make indepedent decisions, hence the reason the likes of Dhadrian Wale Sant Ji and some others have distanced themselves from Sant Samaj, Dhumma etc. The chain of events and links give a clear picture of what has been happening behind the scenes and what is going on. It is a sad state of affairs and dangerous politics are at play in an attempt to fool Sikhs......

-Baba Harnam Singh Dhumma of Taksal (always been a shady character) is now openly supporting Badal and allied with Akali Dal (currently under the influence of RSS) in the SGPC elections, along with others like Hari Singh Randhawa (was respected, but often rumoured to be working with Government - now that is true as well). Dhumma is "president" of Sant Samaj. Fact.

-Jasbir Singh Rode (ex Jathedar of Akal Thakht and nephew of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji), another traitor who people always said was a sell-out for years but did not show his true colours openly until recently when he joined forces with Badal and BJP - is a close associate of Dhumma and Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Wale. Fact.

-Jasbir Singh Rode has fell out with all UK jathebandia as he said they would need to support Badal in elections, but jathebandia did not agree with this to support the enemies of the Sikhs (RSS controls BJP which controls Akali Dal in the current times). 25 years of relationship with Rode down the drain. After this, Jasbir Singh Rode (who at that time was and is openly supporting Badal) sets up the International Panthic Dal with the support and assistance of Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Wala. Fact.

-The recently made International Panthic Dal positions itself to "compete" with old established Panthic jathebandia and takes on board ex-members of jathebandia who left the Sikh movement years ago, along with the primary backing of Baljit Singh Dadu Wale. Fact. Dadu Wale is a well-known close associate of Panth enemy Paramjit Sarna of the Delhi Gurdwara Parbandak Committee. Sarna has been involved in activities such as giving a siropa to the grandson of the evil enemy of Sikhs, Lala Jagat Narain (he was assasinated by Jujharoo Singhs years ago). This is fact.

-Main UK rep of International Panthic Dal is Raghbir Singh (was excommunicated out the UK jathebandia and Awaze Kaum newspaper for alleged links to Indian Government years ago and he has up until recently been keeping a low profile over the years). Raghbir Singh calls over Dadu Wale fom India to the UK regularly and Dadu Wale stays with him, as was openly said on Sikh Channel. Raghbir Singh is now openly supporting Rode since Rode joined forces with Badal Government. Fact.

-Dadu Wale brought a recording of Dhumma and Jasbir Rode from India recently to support D-Day and this was played on Sikh Channel in the discussion show a few days ago. Baljit Singh Dadu Wale is behind and openly supporting International Panthic Dal on Sikh Channel and Raghbir Singh says on stage at D-Day that International Panthic Dal is backed by Jasbir Singh Rode. Raghbir Singh makes an appeal to all sangat at D-Day and on live television that everyone needs to become members of International Panthic Dal so that they can swiftly establish a new leadership of the Panth for the future. Disgusting. This is all fact and not rumour.

This clearly shows that in one way or another, the leadership of Sant Samaj which is Dhumma (therefore current leadership of Taksal at Mehta as well) and Hari Singh Randhawa, Jasbir Singh Rode, Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Wale, International Panthic Dal are all under the control of Akali Dal and working with Badal (who is in alliance with BJP which is the partner of the RSS). This is pure fact and there are no two ways about it. There is some very dangerous politics at play behind the scenes by haters of the Khalsa.

"Working with Badal to get inside and make a difference" etc are all lame excuses. It is greatly unfortunate that Badal is now in control of most Puraatan jathebandia in India as well as the new International Panthic Dal, specifically and obviously being established to make splits in the Panth and for Badal (along with BJP/RSS) to keep infiltrating and having his say in international Sikh affairs as well as affairs in India.

The Sant Samaj itself has been and will be respected. For years it has done so much good and so many Puraatan Sants were in it once (like Sant Isher Singh Ji Rare Wale, Sant Isher Singh Ji Nanaksar Wale, Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindranwale, Sant Baba Kartar Singh Ji Bhindranwale, Harkowale Sant etc). It's just that the current leadership has been corrupted and the organisation is inflitrated by panth enemies, but it will always be respected for its history. This is the same case with Damdami Taksal, Taksal will forever be respected, but its current leadership is sold out. This will not always be the case and the true Jathedar will one day take over Mehta. The same with Akal Thakht, just because the current Jathedar is not right, does not mean Akat Thakht will not be respected. Jathedars will come and go, Akal Thakht will remain. Even with the Akali Dal, it was once truly the Panthic party of the Sikhs, a political voice for the Khalsa, but its leadership has become corrupt. In the same way, the Badal family will not remain forever.

One day Sant Samaj will also re-claim its independence (and so will Taksal, Akal Thakht, Akali Dal etc). Such people who are involved in the above cannot expect to fool Sikhs forever, the truth will continue to be exposed. On one hand they claim to work for Khalistan and obtain justice, on the other hand they are working openly with Badal or closely with Badals right-hand men! This is not nindya. This is pure fact as outlined above. Shame on all the characters mentioned above, all proud sell-outs!

Maharaj Mehar Karan! Guru Gobind Singh Ji is watching all that is happening!

The traitors will be exposed and the enemies shall be dealt with by Dharam Raj!

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The leaders have brought a bad name to the avastha of Sant. They're doing nindiya by calling themselves Sants.

You are right. It is like someone said yesterday on a call on Sangat TV that the path of a Sant is very difficult and there is no point calling yourself a Sant if you can not walk on the path (he was referring to Dadu Sahib Wale sitting there on Sikh Channel while nindya of panthic leaders was going on, when he should have stopped them and not encouraged them).

...and Dhumma? All the above is FACT and NOT NINDYA. Nindya is stating false rumours and making false accusations. Stating fact that is open in the public is not nindya. I'm not against Sants at all (in fact I respect those that do a lot of good like Dhadrian Wale etc), just against these sell-outs who like you say have brought a bad name to the avastha of a Sant. I cannot stand sell-outs and politicians disguised as Sants.

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Sirsa aala and daduwal are cousins?

Thats what many people were saying. They were also saying Dadu tried to emulate Baba Ranjit Singh Ji but failed to attract a following so used the Sirsa thing for publicity and do work for BAdal as he had lost Sirsa pakhandis vote in the Malwa, also they said if he was so anti beadbi then why did he do nothing when his own appointed people undertook beadbi in an Akal Academy (Boru Sahib) in Ratia.

I always thought he was ok but having seen seen what has transpired over the last week or so and his alliance with Dhumma I am having second thoughts about his integrity etc. I am also now beginning to think that the whole sirsa pakhandi thing was engineered by Badal to get votes. Many people in Fatehabad district said to me that the sirsa pakhandi was wearing a pink dress and that was the photo that was used to impress on people that he was projecting himself as Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj. They said this a slur against Guru Ji as the Father of the Khalsa would not wear a pink dress. I think the Badals have been very clever in this whole scenario. They have used their pitoo in the Sant Samaj to try and influence voters and destory the pakhandis votebank in the Malwa. This does not excuse the killings of Singh by the pakhandis followers but we need to rise above this and see through Badals media spin.

Also with regards to Dhumma, he is also very friendly with Sarna. A few years ago when Sarna was summoned to the Akal Takht it was Dhumma who was making statements in favour of Sarna and if my memory serves me correctly he accompanied Sarna to the Akal Takht.

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For well intentioned and politically aware sikhs it is not hard to judge a person based on his deeds, especially in this age of media. And obviously the judgement should be based on gurmat and on deeds done by someone over a period of time.

By these parameters Baljit Singh Daduwal and Amrik Singh Ajnala are panths best bets.

Efforts will obviously be made by people to align them with panth's known enermies . We can still hear people calling Sant Bhindranwale a congress man. So its nothing new and will never stop. Like mentioned in another thread Daduwal gave a very good interview on sikh channel today and cleared a lot of things. If people still want to call him an agent we know who those people are and why they want to malign his image. and again well intentioned and politically aware sikhs will never fall for it.

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For well intentioned and politically aware sikhs it is not hard to judge a person based on his deeds, especially in this age of media. And obviously the judgement should be based on gurmat and on deeds done by someone over a period of time.

By these parameters Baljit Singh Daduwal and Amrik Singh Ajnala are panths best bets.

Efforts will obviously be made by people to align them with panth's known enermies . We can still hear people calling Sant Bhindranwale a congress man. So its nothing new and will never stop. Like mentioned in another thread Daduwal gave a very good interview on sikh channel today and cleared a lot of things. If people still want to call him an agent we know who those people are and why th ey want to malign his image. and again well intentioned and politically aware sikhs will never fall for it.

Well said

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Baljit Singh Dadu Wale is a good politician. His actions and the future will reveal his real intentions imho. Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala on the other hand is a different story and is just a genuine Gursikh doing Sewa for the panth, clear from politics and pakhand of trying to make a false panthic image of himself. At least Bhai Ajnala does not have closed door meetings with Badal and Sarna.

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It was IPD reps at Singh Sabha Derby and GTBG Leicester that tried to cause issues on stage for Sant Ranjit Singh Ji. Baba Ji gave full responses there and then on stage. All IPD has done is cause splits and problems since it was established in the UK, and they seem to have no clear strategic goals other than this. if Baba Baljit Singh has genuine dardh for the Panth, he should at once disassociate himself from such trouble-makers in the UK.

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Some of you lot know how to point your onglee! One minute kissing Dadu sahib wale backside and the next minute accusing him of something else. No wonder we're in such a state. Have some consistency with you're hero worshiping. Give me an active Dadu Sahib wale anyday to 1000 useless sofa sitting TV limelight seekers on Sangat TV or Sikh Channel. Do we useless internet soormay think we'll change the world through chugliya?

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