Ardas Sahib- Origins

[SarabhaPanjab 243]

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Dear Sadh Sangat ji

I Would like to know more about the origins of Ardas Sahib.

Who complied the basic structure?

i.e.

Salutations to Guru Saibhaans -

Acknowledgment of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji

Sacrifices by Singh and Singhnian

Takht Sahibs

Specify what Ardas is for

How did this structure come about?

Who composed the Ardas?

I appreciate the first part, acknowledgement up to Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur ji Maharaaj comes from Sri Dasam Bani, Chandi di waar.

Who composed the rest?

"Nanak Naam, Chardikala, Tere bahney Sarbat da Bhala" - Where does this originate from? who composed it?

How did the Panth decide to put the benti for free access and Sewa sambhaal of Sri Nanakana Sahib ji and other Gurdwaras from which the Panth has hindrance in access?

Who composed other variations, i.e. Sri Hazoor Sahib Ardas, Sri Nanaksar Ardas?

Are there any references to how Sikhs in the times of Guru Sahbaans did their Ardas?

How did the Khalsa do Ardas, immediately after Guru Gaddi had been given to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj?

Gursikhs such as Bhai Mani Singh Ji Shaheed? Are there any references?

If I have written anything wrong with reference to Gurbani please accept my apologies.

WJKK WJKF

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[PAL 07 210]

as far as i know the ardas was fully compiled by Bhai Sahib Bhai Mani Singh Ji Shaheed.

If you go on Sikh media websites you can find various kathas explaining the history and meaning of the ardas. off the top of my head i know that sant singh maskeen, pinderpal singh ludhianewala and jaswant singh parvana have done so.

[VanHelsingh 1,991]

The section of the Ardaas which refers to the partition in terms of "Gurghar aur Gurdhamaa Jinaa Nu Panth Toh Vichorya Gaye Hai, Khuleh Darshan Didaar Teh Seva Sambhaal Da Daan Khalse Panth Nu Baksho" - does anyone know who composed this section?

Its quite sad everytime a Sikh hears or does this part of the ardaas as you're reminded how some of our important asthaans taken from us (location-wise at least).

[singh1harpreet 0]

I'm not exactly sure where the rest of the Ardad comes from, but the first part (ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਭਗੌਤੀ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਕੈ) comes from Chandee dee Vaar, in the Dasam Granth - http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=20433

[SarabhaPanjab 243]

Are there any learned Sikhs that can shed light on the original Post?

1. How did Parthaan Sikhs During the times of of Guru Shaibaan do their Ardas?

2. Who composed the Ardas Sahib. Yes first Part is from Sri Dasam Bani, Chandi di waar, as already stated in the O.P. - But who composed the rest and complied the format.

paaji Pal07 stated, Bhai Mani Singh Ji Shaheed composed and complied the Ardas - which is indeed often quoted in katha's. If so, then who composed the references to the events after Bhai Sahib Ji's Shaheedi, including reference to their own Shaheedi, Bhai Taru Singh ji Shaheedi, which I beleive occurred afterwards?

3. "Nanak Naam Chardi Kala, Tere Bhaaney Sarbat da Bhala" - what is the origins of this? Was this Totally compiled by Bhai Mani Singh Ji Shaheed?

4. Other variations of the Ardas. Sri Hazoor Sahib Ardas, Sri Nanaksar Ardas. Who composed them?

5. Changes along the way - i.e. Open Darshan and Sewa of Sri Nanakana Sahib- (i'm guessing this was put in after partition) who decided this? Akal Thakt?

6. on side note, The reference to 5 Takhts in the Ardas. When was the 5 Thakts established? i.e. officially recognised as the 5 Thakts, opposed to other historic Gurdwaras? Who decided this, and when?

If i have made any wrong references to Gurbani please accept my appologises.

Dhanvaadji

[GPS 1,338]

Sikh ardas format with beginning stanza from chandi di vaar is there since Guru gobind Singh ji,s time.This was

there aorund 1691 AD as there is a tablet of ardas presented by Guru sahib to a Hindu temple in Kapal mochan.

There is inscription of this ardas on one of the gates of Harmandir sahib.

[SarabhaPanjab 243]

Sikh ardas format with beginning stanza from chandi di vaar is there since Guru gobind Singh ji,s time.This was

there aorund 1691 AD as there is a tablet of ardas presented by Guru sahib to a Hindu temple in Kapal mochan.

There is inscription of this ardas on one of the gates of Harmandir sahib.

Thats very interesting. So the Ardas on this Tablet, does it still exist?

Any idea how Paat was rounded off before the conventional Ardas, period up to Kalgidhar Patshah?

[GurSa Singh 70]

The formal Ardaas we are familiar with today was standardised under the Singh Sabha lehar and rolled out after the Gurdwara act 1925, the further insertion regarding Nankana Sahib and Pakistan Gurdwaras would have been introduced after 1947.

The main structure of the Ardaas is believed to have been originally compiled by Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed with numerous additions being inserted over the years.

[Into the Light 149]

Bhai Pinderpal Singh goes through the Ardass is detail with 78 audio files. Please listen to the first one called 'Ardas' - you'll get alot of your ansers to how Puratan gursikhs did it.

http://www.gurmatvee...ale%29%2FArdaas

[VanHelsingh 1,991]

The formal Ardaas we are familiar with today was standardised under the Singh Sabha lehar and rolled out after the Gurdwara act 1925, the further insertion regarding Nankana Sahib and Pakistan Gurdwaras would have been introduced after 1947.

The main structure of the Ardaas is believed to have been originally compiled by Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed with numerous additions being inserted over the years.

Thanks. Thats what I wanted to know.

[11Gurus1Jot 176]

The section of the Ardaas which refers to the partition in terms of "Gurghar aur Gurdhamaa Jinaa Nu Panth Toh Vichorya Gaye Hai, Khuleh Darshan Didaar Teh Seva Sambhaal Da Daan Khalse Panth Nu Baksho" - does anyone know who composed this section?

Its quite sad everytime a Sikh hears or does this part of the ardaas as you're reminded how some of our important asthaans taken from us (location-wise at least).

It is very sad when you hear that, especially as our Sikh Shaheeds gave their lives for those asthaans too

[VanHelsingh 1,991]

It is very sad when you hear that, especially as our Sikh Shaheeds gave their lives for those asthaans too

Yes, exactly.

[SarabhaPanjab 243]

does anyone have any updates on the this topic?

GPS Mentioned the Ardas was handed by Kalgidhar Patashah on a tablet? Anyone got more information about this?

Which would suggest the Ardas was composed by Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaaj?

on this tablet, is "Nanak Naam Chardikala, tere Bhahney Sarbat da Bhalla" inscribed?

Anyone with knowledge of Ardas used by Parathaan Sikhs (before formation of Khalsa). Udasi Sikhs?

Hazoor Sahib Ardas and Nanaksar Ardas.

[SarabhaPanjab 243]

does anyone have any updates on the this topic?

GPS Mentioned the Ardas was handed by Kalgidhar Patashah on a tablet? Anyone got more information about this?

Which would suggest the Ardas was composed by Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaaj?

on this tablet, is "Nanak Naam Chardikala, tere Bhahney Sarbat da Bhalla" inscribed?

Anyone with knowledge of Ardas used by Parathaan Sikhs (before formation of Khalsa). Udasi Sikhs?

Hazoor Sahib Ardas and Nanaksar Ardas.

Can anyone help?

There seems to be little or no literature available on the origin of the Sikh Ardas.