is dhunda doing katha in delhi gurudwara anymore?

[Pappi9 351]

we all expected him not doing katha anymore in delhi gurudwara ( i think bangla sahib)

so in he still doing katha?

[GPS 1,330]

In my opinion not. Delhi committee president had issued statement that no disrespect direct or indirect will be allowed in Delhi Gurudawaras towards bani of Dasam Granth sahib.Also katha will be gurmat based and not slander or criticism based.

In my opinion their days are over.They are not kathakars but were promoted by congress agent Sarna against sikh principles.

[Pappi9 351]

Also katha will be gurmat based and not slander or criticism based.

this is the reason this duhnda is getting famous .............

no need to watch tv serials ( saas bahu ) .... coz dhunda cover all these stories in his katha.....

[GPS 1,330]

this is the reason this duhnda is getting famous .............

no need to watch tv serials ( saas bahu ) .... coz dhunda cover all these stories in his katha.....

Delhi Gurudawara committee was under control of Congress thugs through their tout parmjit Sarna. He was doing what was said to

him to do.

He banned Dasam bani from Delhi gurudawaras.

He brought in Darshan Ragi to do propaganda against Dasam bani.

He made missionary Tarsem singh . a kala afghana and spokesman follower as head of Dharam parchar committee.

He brought all these unread missionaries dhunhda, ex policeman sabhra, old head Gurbachan panwan, jagtar jachak, shivteg etc etc. to spread venom from the stage of Gurudawaras for years on.

Previous to that kala afghana books were banned from Delhi gurudawara premises and surjit missionary was not allowed

to hold book stalls there to sell missionary literature. I think that time Avatar singh Hit was the man who banned them.

Sikh sangat taught Sarna and congress a lesson and gave them crushing defeat. Present President stated after election that ban of dasam bani in Delhi Gurudwaras was under a deep rooted conspiracy. he said that he used to read Dasam bani shabads himself in Gurudawras when he was a young boy. He seems to be a sensible man and will not allow cult of missionaries to carry out their nefarious anti sikh designs inside our Gurudwaras.

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this is the reason this duhnda is getting famous .............

no need to watch tv serials ( saas bahu ) .... coz dhunda cover all these stories in his katha.....

lol

[Pappi9 351]

i've tried listen his katha twice ( he have no rass or atmik shanti in his katha )

1st time wen i tried his katha ...he said eat meat ... even guru nanak never said no to meat ......BUS DIL SAAF RAKHO.....

2nd time ......he was telling how saas and bahu should behave and how kitchen should be run , how should they both live together and do shopping together and how they should make food ....and most important they should make husbands happy ......OMG

is this gurmat teaching?

thats why innocent people get trapped .....and dey belive DHUNDA SHAHIB is very awesome .....

and wen ppl are trapped ...they start brain washing process......

[Pappi9 351]

NOW THIS is too much ....this is hilarious listen from 7:50 onwards

then at 14:00 ........

[UKLondonSikh 164]

P9 = we all expected him not doing katha anymore in delhi gurudwara ( i think bangla sahib)

P9 = so in he still doing katha?

UK = He is there less at the moment as a direct consequence of the political calculations by which Sant Samaj (who oppose him) have to be kept sweet by Badal camp. However, he and others like him will be back at Sri Bangla Sahib by public demand from local Sangat - of that I'm pretty sure.

In my opinion not. Delhi committee president had issued statement that no disrespect direct or indirect will be allowed in Delhi Gurudawaras towards bani of Dasam Granth sahib.Also katha will be gurmat based and not slander or criticism based.

In my opinion their days are over.They are not kathakars but were promoted by congress agent Sarna against sikh principles.

UK = Obviously Paji it was inevitable in the short term that only those agreeable to Sant Samaj would be permitted after the (positive)changeover at DSGMC. I personally oppose Sarna and am glad that the far better Manjit Singh GK has come to the fore, as Sarna's links with Congress and Ponty Chadha clearly disqualified from holding such a post. The disgraceful scenes at Bangla Sahib in recent months were clearly Sarna's doing so good riddance. However, if kathakars are given an opportunity (most likely as you suggest by Sarna to ruffle Badal's feathers) then anti-Congress kathakars like Dhunda Sahib and Panthpreet Singh Khalsa can't be blamed for that.

P9 = 1st time wen i tried his katha ...he said eat meat ... even guru nanak never said no to meat ......BUS DIL SAAF RAKHO.....

UK = P9 Paji yet again you're misrepresenting his position. I don't eat meat despite having his heard his katha a few times and nor do I intend to change from that. All that is being said is that the Khalsa Fauj is not restricted to vegetarian bhojan in the absence of non-meat food being available. So if the Khalsa Fauj only have access to meat during battle or tribes living in the jungle without convenient supermarkets nearby eat non-vegetarian food, we shouldn't judge them over that but analyse what Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj's position was about those that avoid meat but make other human beings lives a living hell.

UK = As for the clip, yet again I see nothing anti-Sikh or atheist about it and good on Dhunda Sahib for criticising the musical dogs that deliberately promote jaath-paath, alcohol, disrespect for women etc in their records (often famously for a Muslim Jatt record label from Birmingham in the UK)

[Pappi9 351]

UK = P9 Paji yet again you're misrepresenting his position. I don't eat meat despite having his heard his katha a few times and nor do I intend to change from that.

VEERJI I DISAGREE ... with u on meat ...but i've seen sikh sangat stopped doing amritvela simran... which they were doing for many years ...... all they were in guru's bana ...and now they stopped wearing dummale ......after listening DHUNDA SAHIB in canada .....

kise nu vi guru to todoge .... narak vich sadoge

UK = As for the clip, yet again I see nothing anti-Sikh or atheist about it and good on Dhunda Sahib for criticising the musical dogs that deliberately promote jaath-paath, alcohol, disrespect for women etc in their records (often famously for a Muslim Jatt record label from Birmingham in the UK)

i'm not saying its anti-sikh .... but this is not Gurmat katha ...... gurudwara is for gurmat katha ......... not for saas bahu stories .........

U KNOW i've never seen him doing deep gurmat veechar ........ ( jisnu sunn'na vi aukha hai )

speaking of all these subject is not kaatha ...... and he is famous ....coz he is a story teller............and not gurmat

AND ONE THING MORE .... let me type his exact words in meat katha ........

" guru nanak ne kithe keha hai ...ke meat na khao .........gurupyareo je meat khanna hai ta khao .....bus dil saaf rakho........"

[UKLondonSikh 164]

P9 Paji you're my brother in the Panth so I won't argue with you on this subject but it may be that Dhunda Sahib did not use those exact words and may have instead been stressing that without keeping a saaf dhill, abstaining from meat becomes less meaningful (as Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj stated in Gurbani) and I might be a bigger Pappi than you if looked at it in that way.

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UKLondonsikh

You should be knowing that missionaries were debarred from delhi gurudwaras before Sarna rule say more than ten years ago. That time dhundha may be a kiddo attending his final class of worldly education ( 8 grade).So this disagreement is not between Sant samaj or kala afghana brigade, it is between sikhs and and anti sikh agents.

Missionary literature and kala afghna books were barred from stalls put by missionary surjit singh by Avtar singh Hit around 20001. It is Sarna and congress who brought missionaries to these stages.

Likes of dhundha are cheats and liars. he gives in writing to akal takhat jathedar and apologized for condemning Dasam bani and other traditions.After a few months he does same thing again.

Days of missionaries are over in delhi same way like Punjab. They are debarred because of their views against sikhi.

[GPS 1,330]

UKlondonsikh writes

He is there less at the moment as a direct consequence of the political calculations by which Sant Samaj (who oppose him) have to be kept sweet by Badal camp.

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My response

Again a big lie.What do you mean by less. He is not there at all now. A sikh should not tell lies.

[GPS 1,330]

P9 Paji you're my brother in the Panth so I won't argue with you on this subject but it may be that Dhunda Sahib did not use those exact words and may have instead been stressing that without keeping a saaf dhill, abstaining from meat becomes less meaningful (as Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj stated in Gurbani) and I might be a bigger Pappi than you if looked at it in that way.

Paji do not weave stories that are anti gurmat. guru sahib has shown us a path and essence of which is Naam simran. If you follow that and are a naam abhiasi you will not even like to look at meat leave aside eating it. Dhundha telling to take meat is pure nonsense and is not in line with gurmat. He should keep his mouth shut on such topics and not mislead simple folks.

Does he not read Gurbani that says to eat simple and in moderation. May be he is busy on face book promoting himself and then uttering nonsense to gullibles.

[UKLondonSikh 164]

@ GPS Paji

Paji, you must obviously be aware that Avtar Singh Hit Ji was affiliated with the Badal camp and that explains why the pro-Gurmat position was not given access to the stage in those years. Paji if Dhunda is a cheat and anti-Sikh then can you point his anti-Sikh cheating positions where the Sangat was in full agreement with him below? So if Sangat agree with him on certain issues (but not everything) does that define the Sangat as being anti-Sikh or atheist? Surely, we should all focus on the points where everybody agrees (though we can respectfully debate minor points of polite disagreement)

Paji i mentioned that it would be the local Sangat that gets the kathakars from the pro-Gurmat camp back at Sri Bangla Sahib in the future. The opposite of more often is less (regardless if the occurrence is never). If Sikhs should not tell lies then why do some claim Guru Sahib had other lives or on who the author of Charitropakhyan tales was?

I believe where there is ready access to vegetarian bhojan we should not eat meat. Dhunda Sahib has not encouraged Sangat like myself to eat meat.

We need to join forces for Unity (rather than nitpick on any minor pretext)

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Most people who called him here in Fresno regret or will regret calling him because they are slowly starting to find out that youth, even those from the Gurdwaras they attend won't allow it and will outright put a stop to malicious lies that dhundi and his band of missionaries are spewing. All these pardhaans have very basic or limited knowledge of Sikhi and SIkh history and even a very basic knowledge of Sikhi can put them in their place.

Here in California alone Dhundi took 100,000 U.S. dollars on his tour. Where this money is going I don't know. Either they are pocketing it or putting it into causing more problems in the panth. Who needs RSS when we have unpard pindoos putting titles like professors and gianis in front of their names.

In California he basically admitted he does not believe in Jaap Sahib and Dasam Granth Nitnem, but only recites them out of "majboori" and thinks maybe in the future they will find evidence they don't exist. He only said this so he wouldn't get embarrassed in front of sangat, in reality he doesn't believe in any of the Nitnem Banis from Dasam Granth.

These guys are politicians and are only out for money, similar to pakhandi babe who travel abroad and speak the language of the sangat and take home money.