Neeldhari Samprada Documentary

[Singh559]

Lol, I know when there is a Sant. I'm sorry, but there is a holy treasure trove/khajana online with katha of Sants.

I don't need no Donald trump status babay to go to lol

[Only five]

dear only 5 JI

you are right, there is only one guru, and they are SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI, and only them.

you are talking about the light from guru ji, the way you speak, it shows that you are deep in the dark..why so much hatred my friend ? is this what you have learnt from SGGS JI...? well then you have not understood the msg clearly.. SGGS does not teach hatred and despising anyone.

please go and read carefully again.

you show so much of anger... why my friend ?

maybe your name actually means only 5 ( kam, krodh, lobh , moh , ahankaar..) im actually confused which 5 are you representing..?

I'm happy in the dark. I can see Sant Satnaam Singh ji coming with all his bling bling on trying to rob another poor family.

[bantasingh]

ASA M PANJWA ang 373

ARRAWE BILLAWE NINDAK

PARBRAHM PARMESHAR BUSREYA,

APNA KITA PAWAE NINDAK.

JE KOI USKA SANGI HOWAE,

NALAE LAE SIDHAWAE,

ANHODA AJGAR BHAAR UTHAE,

NINDAK AGNI MAHE JALAWEA.

Please at least try a tini bit to follow Guru Granth Sahib JI my friend ... By just wearing the uniform and going school is not enough , if you don't wanna listen to the teacher and study ... People wearing the best of uniforms also fail the exams in school ...

And don't take me the wrong way , uniform is just as important .

[Only five]

Mods/admin it would be nice to check if the members KoolKhalsa and Bantasingh are the same people. They have a very similar writing style.

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

Well if he can't do a basic task of following guru the hukam then he is not guru gobind Singh ji maharaj da chela in my opinion.

nail on the head

rehat bina ne sikh kahave..............

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

This isn't Singh Sabha mentality, this is just reality.

Tell me one thing....if Akal Takhat Sahib summoned any of these "Sikh Orders"....would they happily come and accept an order/decision of the Takhat?

That will show if they really are with the Panth or not.

I think this whole thing is to separate Sikhs and make them divided. Where are these people when the Panth needed them? And not just a few select individuals...I'm talking about whole groups overall.

Guru Sahib was not about duality. If Guru Sahib said something, it was for everyone, not a select few.

If there was such a thing as "Sehajdhari Sikh" 100's of years ago.....then how about clean-shaven Sikh today? Let's not be hypocrites.

Guru Nanak Dev Jee only started the path of Sikhi....he didn't finish it.

As time went on, each Guru's form added on what was needed as per Akal Purakh's Hukam.

Obviously each Guru's form had to relate with the people on some level in order to get some type of movement/revolutionary change going.

Each Guru's form then slowly went from relating with the people to starting to be more and more unique and un-relating to the pakhand/corruption/injustice that was going on.

Let's clear up the seli topi topic....

ਸੇਲੀ -

ਸੰਗ੍ਯਾ- ਸਿਆਹ ਉਂਨ ਅਥਵਾ ਰੇਸ਼ਮ ਦੀ ਗੁੰਦਵੀਂ ਇੱਕ ਰੱਸੀ, ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਫਕੀਰ ਸਿਰ ਉੱਪਰ ਸਾਫੇ ਅਥਵਾ ਟੋਪੀ ਤੇ ਬੰਨ੍ਹਦੇ ਹਨ, ਜਾਂ ਜਨੇਊ ਦੀ ਤਰਾਂ ਗਲ ਪਹਿਰਦੇ ਹਨ. ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਦੀ ਸੰਪ੍ਰਦਾਯ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਸ ਦੇ ਪਹਿਰਣ ਦੀ ਸ਼ੈਲੀ (ਰੀਤਿ) ਗੁਰੂ ਅਰਜਨ ਦੇਵ ਤੀਕ ਰਹੀ. ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਤਖਤ ਤੇ ਬੈਠਣ ਸਮੇਂ ਸੇਲੀ ਨੂੰ ਤੋਸ਼ੇਖਾਨੇ ਰੱਖਕੇ ਉਸ ਦੀ ਥਾਂ ਖੜਗ ਪਹਿਨਿਆ।

You see how people twist the story of the seli topi? It's not even 100% clear if Gurus wore seli topi or seli around the neck, or both.

But it is 100% clear that Guru HarGobind Sahib Jee took the next step towards the formation of Khalsa, by removing seli and giving Kharag to Sikhs.

As time went on, even more changes were implemented.

Guru Gobind Singh Jee put the final stamps/changes on what Sikhi was/is to be till the end of time.

Guru Gobind Singh Jee switched from Charan Pahul to Khandey Dee Pahul.

Yet you still see people today drinking charan water from people who are "babas" and justify it by using Guru Nanak Dev Jee's life as an example.

But that's where most people fool themselves.

We are not to do what was done by Guru Nanak Dev Jee's Sikhs.

We are to do what was instructed by Guru Gobind Singh Jee....as that was the final fully-evolved version of Sikhi meant to be as per Akal Purakhs Hukam.

if we TRULY see Guru JOT the same in all 11 forms.....then we should have no problems adjusting to the changes made from Guru Nanak Dev Jee all the way up to Guru Gobind Singh Jee.

The fact is that people don't see Guru Jot as one.

Millions of people celebrate Guru Nanak Dev Jee's Gurpurab but only a handful celebrate Guru Gobind Singh Jee's.

Because Guru Nanak Dev Jee's life was still able to relate with a lot of people.

Whereas when Sikhi reached up to Guru Gobind Singh Jee and Khalsa was created...the final version of Sikhi had become so unique that not everyone was able to relate to it.

People don't see the same Jot in 11 forms...that's where people have went and started doing their own things.

Read the following Shabads to clear doubts:

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=5586

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=3585

http://sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=3589

Many more I could post...Gurbani is very clear on this again and again.

ALSO

Greatest of all is Satguru.

Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

If you have faith and ardaas.....Guru Sahib will automatically do Bakhshish and get someone to understand.

These Sants are only Great due to Greatness of Guru Sahib.

Let's not act like we need Sant.

Guru Sahib is the Greatest Sant.

On top of that...we have:

• Bhai Gurdas Jee
• Bhai Nand Lal Jee
• Dasam Granth
• Sarbloh Granth
• Suraj Parkash
• Panth Parkash
• Baba Deep Singh Jee's life as inspiration
• Baba Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranvaley's life as inspiration
• Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee's life and books as inspiration
• and countless others....

Let's stop acting like we are desperate for Sants.

If one wants to get on the path of Sikhi and attached to Guru Sahib...there are MANY resources out there for one to utilize which already exist.

We are all supposed to be Sants and Soldiers.

We are all supposed to be Gurmukhs.

So let's stop drooling over so-called Sants.

The world has thousands of people claiming to be Sants.....yet how many are real? How many are genuine?

And I don't care if they're wealthy...kings....or "sitting on gold".......that wealth and royalty is nothing if they don't stand up for truth and justice.

IT'S NOTHING.

They don't have Bir Ras of a Sant in themselves.......what are they good for? Making money? Taking Sangat's money and enjoying life for themselves while the rest of the Panth is slowly deteriorating?

What type of royalty is that?

That isn't a king....

In Gurbani.....royalty and king, etc.....is NEVER based on worldly wealth.

It is ALWAYS based on NAAM and Prabhu and Har/Hari wealth.

So let's not twist Gurbani.

It's so false when people say that Sants don't have Bir Ras....and start making up excuses for those people who benefited off the Panth their entire lives but never stood up for it.

You look at history.

Every real Avtaar and Sant had Bir Ras.

Listen to Maskeen Jee's Katha once more with volume full blasted.

You guys want to live in a fairy-tale world and not listen to the truth.....

Yeah you're right....we can learn from these thousands of Sants that exist these days.

What can we learn from them?

That we should stay away from them for our own sake.

Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Jeeo Maharaj.

SAHIB MERAA EKO HAI...................

I don't need anyone else. No middle man. No ardaasia singh. No paathi doing paath. No granthi. No pandit. No one. Guru Sahib eliminated the middle man completely and never let anyone have more greatness than anyone else in Saadh Sangat.

In Guru Ghar...everyone get's same treatment and is put on same kasauti under same rules.

It's hilarious that you guys justify Sants removing Kakaars because it's their "mauj".

if it's their mauj...then that means they put their mind first = man-mukh and not guru first = Gur-mukh.

There are those Sants who made countless sacrifices trying to make sure they keep Guru's Rehit every single second of their life......and here you guys are praising those who blatantly go against Rehit.

REHIT PYAAREE MUJH KO........

You guys keep loving man-maujee people.

I'll try and focus on Guru-maujee people.

shukar hai koi ta aya...........

[bantasingh]

SABH MAI JOTE, JOTE HAI SOI...

We are all the same dear five one , you are the one who is making ..

DASAM GRANTH PAGE 85. TAV PARSAD PADRI CHAND..

KAI PALT SOORAJ SIJDA KARAE,

PRABH EK ROOP, DWAE KEH LIKHAE.

Bani has all answers

[bantasingh]

Ek ROOP Anek Darshan , keen ROOP Anek,

Khel, khel, akhel khelan,

Ant ko fir ek.

[N30S1NGH]

Singh123456777, on 01 Jun 2013 - 08:38, said:

Well if he can't do a basic task of following guru the hukam then he is not guru gobind Singh ji maharaj da chela in my opinion.

Well its not that black and white. It be wrong to suggest that they didn't guru's sahib hakum of keeping kakar i.e - kirpan . All sant khalsa saints do intially. Think of it as stages or based on needs.

For eg- In worldly studies- teacher is also student at one point, teacher also wear student uniform when he/she was a student but after years of studies/hard work when they become teacher they don't need to wear student uniform anymore. Similiarly in sikhi, uniform is for students, if teacher wears its fine, they do it because so students does not go astray by copying them otherwwise and because some of saints are really maryada purushtam types because of the nature and others are of different types- like divaine, mastane etc so if they don't, its in their mauj. Sant and vahiguroo are one, there is no duality as such. You can ask any samparda's gyanis to get more clarification.

No one is suggesting to take off your kakars or anything but when youths wrap their head around it, start judging others based on the some of the principles thats where the problem lies..you guys have any idea? how much other inner rehat/ inner guru's hakum updesh there is in gurbani? how come no one is discussing that ? why be afraid to face your inner self in the mirror according to gurbani? its pretty easy to follow outer rehat and its pretty easy to stuck in whirlpool of outer rehat because its pretty cool these days for youths but dhan dhan dhan sant jans who have used their inner kirpan/shastars such as- sat, santok, gyan, dya , sam dristhi and killed inner enemies- kam, krodh, lob, moh, ahankar while people sit here with kirpan (limit it to show up in gatka act/show off) and keep criticizing others who used their inner kirpan to kill the enemies while others idolize kirpan only outwardly as a symbol and limit kirpan to its just another outer dogmatic ritual.

Here is one of sant talking about people making kirpan into dogma..note- kirpan is NOT dogma but when people wrap their head around it thats when it becomes dogma.

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

Well its not that black and white. It be wrong to suggest that they didn't guru's sahib hakum of keeping kakar i.e - kirpan . All sant khalsa saints do intially. Think of it as stages or based on needs.

For eg- In worldly studies- teacher is also student at one point, teacher also wear student uniform when he/she was a student but after years of studies/hard work when they become teacher they don't need to wear student uniform anymore. Similiarly in sikhi, uniform is for students, if teacher wears its fine, they do it because so students does not go astray by copying them otherwwise and because some of saints are really maryada purushtam types because of the nature and others are of different types- like divaine, mastane etc so if they don't, its in their mauj. Sant and vahiguroo are one, there is no duality as such. You can ask any samparda's gyanis to get more clarification.

No one is suggesting to take off your kakars or anything but when youths wrap their head around it, start judging others based on the some of the principles thats where the problem lies..you guys have any idea? how much other inner rehat/ inner guru's hakum updesh there is in gurbani? how come no one is discussing that ? why be afraid to face your inner self in the mirror according to gurbani? its pretty easy to follow outer rehat and its pretty easy to stuck in whirlpool of outer rehat because its pretty cool these days for youths but dhan dhan dhan sant jans who have used their inner kirpan/shastars such as- sat, santok, gyan, dya , sam dristhi and killed inner enemies- kam, krodh, lob, moh, ahankar while people sit here with kirpan (limit it to show up in gatka act/show off) and keep criticizing others who used their inner kirpan to kill the enemies while others idolize kirpan only outwardly as a symbol and limit kirpan to its just another outer dogmatic ritual.

Here is one of sant talking about people making kirpan into dogma..note- kirpan is NOT dogma but when people wrap their head around it thats when it becomes dogma.

hukam is also important...