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Last year we had a very robust discussion here about the hollowness of some Sikhs who put Christmas trees in their houses.

Lot of us learnt from that discussion and agreed to stop following this mindless ritual at their houses.

I hope this trend is followed by more and more Sikhs all over the world.

Like Johny explained clearly,

"It is not befitting of a Sikh of the Guru to put up a Christmas tree in his/her house. Firstly we are not Christians that we need to celebrate this holyday of Yasoo Masee. Secondly if your excuse is that you are celebrating it because it is a European pagan holyday, then please do your self a favour and look at yourself in the mirror and see for yourself, YOU ARE NOT A GORA! so stop trying to act like a coconut because that's exactly what you are if you celebrate by putting up a Christmas tree.

A Sikh should be very careful living in the west. If you celebrate these non Sikh holydays with your family what kind of sanskaars are you giving to your children? you are basically confusing your children who will grow up thinking it is perfectly okay to celebrate Christmas and by extention Hanakah and even Eid! then we wonder where we went wrong when our confused girls grow up marrying Muslims and Christians.

Buying your children stuff during this time of the year one should give it to them like it is any other time of the year. Don't make it look like something special by gift wrapping it like you are giving it to them because it's. Don't confuse your children by making them think Christmas is a special day."

I honestly would let them deal with it, you aren't making Jesus any happy by putting a Christmas tree, nor are you making Guru Nanak angry at putting up a Christmas tree. We already had a very long discussion on this issue and it was unresolved and people still are putting up Christmas trees. THIS IS A NON-ISSUE, we as a Panth have more important things to worry about.
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Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

I have a tree , it is artificial , it comes apart branch by branch, it is a real pain to put up and take down for a few days ,although it does look pretty while up, it lives unremembered in the loft all year ...all in all it symbolises Christmas perfectly ...

we bought it to satisfy the oldies in my in-laws household to have some decorations up for the kiddies to appreciate whilst young , and to take piccies , neither the piccies or the tree get a look-in anyhow after the event , so it's not really a major thing at all , the kids never ask for it . Empty resam for non-existent birthday (roman census was in August ) chalo appa naame jappiya te shukar kariya sada Guru ji hai sadda sadda

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Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

I have a tree , it is artificial , it comes apart branch by branch, it is a real pain to put up and take down for a few days ,although it does look pretty while up, it lives unremembered in the loft all year ...all in all it symbolises Christmas perfectly ...

we bought it to satisfy the oldies in my in-laws household to have some decorations up for the kiddies to appreciate whilst young , and to take piccies , neither the piccies or the tree get a look-in anyhow after the event , so it's not really a major thing at all , the kids never ask for it . Empty resam for non-existent birthday (roman census was in August ) chalo appa naame jappiya te shukar kariya sada Guru ji hai sadda sadda

That is the reason for this thread.

Why put a tree to symbolize Christmas

perfectly in a Sikh household?

Why is it so difficult to explain to our

children that as Sikhs we have nothing to

do with Christmas, trees and all the fuss

Which goes with it.

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That is the reason for this thread.

Why put a tree to symbolize Christmas

perfectly in a Sikh household?

Why is it so difficult to explain to our

children that as Sikhs we have nothing to

do with Christmas, trees and all the fuss

Which goes with it.

but diff is my in-laws are catholic ...so their expectations are different from mine or yours ...just keep things calm , make them happy , do their sewa and send them home again far far across the ocean ....

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While the whole world celebrates Christmas and are typically happy at that point in time, but what are Sikhs happy about? The Sahibzade became Shaheed at this time. How can you feel happy and buy your kids gifts wrapped in shiny paper? Even the Shia Muslims are better than us that they have not forgotten what happened in Karbala 1400 years ago yet Sikhs have forgotten what happened only 300 years ago and celebrate the birth of Jesus or some European pagan holiday

When Guru Arjun Dev Ji was Shaheed, he said,"Tera Kiya Mitta Lage", your saying the Muslims are better? Who is hated most in the world for failure of assimilation.
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While the whole world celebrates Christmas and are typically happy at that point in time, but what are Sikhs happy about? The Sahibzade became Shaheed at this time. How can you feel happy and buy your kids gifts wrapped in shiny paper? Even the Shia Muslims are better than us that they have not forgotten what happened in Karbala 1400 years ago yet Sikhs have forgotten what happened only 300 years ago and celebrate the birth of Jesus or some European pagan holiday

I don't celebrate just have backdrop props ... Christmas stopped being about christianity many many hundred years ago . we eat normally , work as normal . SIkhi vich sare din are same , all equally blessed .

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Last year we had a very robust discussion here about the hollowness of some Sikhs who put Christmas trees in their houses.

Lot of us learnt from that discussion and agreed to stop following this mindless ritual at their houses.

I hope this trend is followed by more and more Sikhs all over the world.

Like Johny explained clearly,

"It is not befitting of a Sikh of the Guru to put up a Christmas tree in his/her house. Firstly we are not Christians that we need to celebrate this holyday of Yasoo Masee. Secondly if your excuse is that you are celebrating it because it is a European pagan holyday, then please do your self a favour and look at yourself in the mirror and see for yourself, YOU ARE NOT A GORA! so stop trying to act like a coconut because that's exactly what you are if you celebrate by putting up a Christmas tree.

A Sikh should be very careful living in the west. If you celebrate these non Sikh holydays with your family what kind of sanskaars are you giving to your children? you are basically confusing your children who will grow up thinking it is perfectly okay to celebrate Christmas and by extention Hanakah and even Eid! then we wonder where we went wrong when our confused girls grow up marrying Muslims and Christians.

Buying your children stuff during this time of the year one should give it to them like it is any other time of the year. Don't make it look like something special by gift wrapping it like you are giving it to them because it's. Don't confuse your children by making them think Christmas is a special day."

I agree one of the reasons why some Sikhs are converting to other beliefs is because they are brought up way to liberalised hence these Sikhs dont take the rightfull path of Sikhism seriously are are swayed by preachers from other religions. This also sets a bad example to the youth who think Sikhs will celebrate anything. I think it is more to do about Sikhs will use any excuse to have a good drink. Lets face it christmas is not a religious occasion anyway its a time to get together and take out the whisky bottles and roast chicken.

Obviously if your like me having a few drinks over Christmas is not gonna make us any less Sikh. Infact it shows how strong we are in our faith that we can celebrate christmas and not feel threatened. But I think we should definantly not be putting any trees up and decorations as apart from looking ridiculous it sets a bad exaple to the youth. We should be celebrating more Sikh occasions. W

Muslims on the other hand will not celebrate Christmas because they have an inferiority complex with Christianity as Islam is a mixture of christian and Jewish beliefs mixed with some arab tradions and hey presto you have Islam. Hnece these people feel tenderhearted by chritianity

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