Christmas Trees In Houses Of Sikhs

[JSinghnz 1,086]

Last year we had a very robust discussion here about the hollowness of some Sikhs who put Christmas trees in their houses.

Lot of us learnt from that discussion and agreed to stop following this mindless ritual at their houses.

I hope this trend is followed by more and more Sikhs all over the world.

Like Johny explained clearly,

"It is not befitting of a Sikh of the Guru to put up a Christmas tree in his/her house. Firstly we are not Christians that we need to celebrate this holyday of Yasoo Masee. Secondly if your excuse is that you are celebrating it because it is a European pagan holyday, then please do your self a favour and look at yourself in the mirror and see for yourself, YOU ARE NOT A GORA! so stop trying to act like a coconut because that's exactly what you are if you celebrate by putting up a Christmas tree.

A Sikh should be very careful living in the west. If you celebrate these non Sikh holydays with your family what kind of sanskaars are you giving to your children? you are basically confusing your children who will grow up thinking it is perfectly okay to celebrate Christmas and by extention Hanakah and even Eid! then we wonder where we went wrong when our confused girls grow up marrying Muslims and Christians.

Buying your children stuff during this time of the year one should give it to them like it is any other time of the year. Don't make it look like something special by gift wrapping it like you are giving it to them because it's. Don't confuse your children by making them think Christmas is a special day."

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Last year we had a very robust discussion here about the hollowness of some Sikhs who put Christmas trees in their houses.

Lot of us learnt from that discussion and agreed to stop following this mindless ritual at their houses.

I hope this trend is followed by more and more Sikhs all over the world.

Like Johny explained clearly,

"It is not befitting of a Sikh of the Guru to put up a Christmas tree in his/her house. Firstly we are not Christians that we need to celebrate this holyday of Yasoo Masee. Secondly if your excuse is that you are celebrating it because it is a European pagan holyday, then please do your self a favour and look at yourself in the mirror and see for yourself, YOU ARE NOT A GORA! so stop trying to act like a coconut because that's exactly what you are if you celebrate by putting up a Christmas tree.

A Sikh should be very careful living in the west. If you celebrate these non Sikh holydays with your family what kind of sanskaars are you giving to your children? you are basically confusing your children who will grow up thinking it is perfectly okay to celebrate Christmas and by extention Hanakah and even Eid! then we wonder where we went wrong when our confused girls grow up marrying Muslims and Christians.

Buying your children stuff during this time of the year one should give it to them like it is any other time of the year. Don't make it look like something special by gift wrapping it like you are giving it to them because it's. Don't confuse your children by making them think Christmas is a special day."

I honestly would let them deal with it, you aren't making Jesus any happy by putting a Christmas tree, nor are you making Guru Nanak angry at putting up a Christmas tree. We already had a very long discussion on this issue and it was unresolved and people still are putting up Christmas trees. THIS IS A NON-ISSUE, we as a Panth have more important things to worry about.

[jkvlondon 5,634]

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

I have a tree , it is artificial , it comes apart branch by branch, it is a real pain to put up and take down for a few days ,although it does look pretty while up, it lives unremembered in the loft all year ...all in all it symbolises Christmas perfectly ...

we bought it to satisfy the oldies in my in-laws household to have some decorations up for the kiddies to appreciate whilst young , and to take piccies , neither the piccies or the tree get a look-in anyhow after the event , so it's not really a major thing at all , the kids never ask for it . Empty resam for non-existent birthday (roman census was in August ) chalo appa naame jappiya te shukar kariya sada Guru ji hai sadda sadda

[JSinghnz 1,086]

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

I have a tree , it is artificial , it comes apart branch by branch, it is a real pain to put up and take down for a few days ,although it does look pretty while up, it lives unremembered in the loft all year ...all in all it symbolises Christmas perfectly ...

we bought it to satisfy the oldies in my in-laws household to have some decorations up for the kiddies to appreciate whilst young , and to take piccies , neither the piccies or the tree get a look-in anyhow after the event , so it's not really a major thing at all , the kids never ask for it . Empty resam for non-existent birthday (roman census was in August ) chalo appa naame jappiya te shukar kariya sada Guru ji hai sadda sadda

That is the reason for this thread.

Why put a tree to symbolize Christmas

perfectly in a Sikh household?

Why is it so difficult to explain to our

children that as Sikhs we have nothing to

do with Christmas, trees and all the fuss

Which goes with it.

[jkvlondon 5,634]

That is the reason for this thread.

Why put a tree to symbolize Christmas

perfectly in a Sikh household?

Why is it so difficult to explain to our

children that as Sikhs we have nothing to

do with Christmas, trees and all the fuss

Which goes with it.

but diff is my in-laws are catholic ...so their expectations are different from mine or yours ...just keep things calm , make them happy , do their sewa and send them home again far far across the ocean ....

[mrggg123 130]

who cares man.. we live in a Christian country, kids get so happy and theres a nice feeling around during xmas etc. Im sure if us sikhs had our own country people would come and celebrate vaisakhi with us.

You want us to get labelled like some muslims in wanting to ban christmas?

[Jonny101 4,380]

While the whole world celebrates Christmas and are typically happy at that point in time, but what are Sikhs happy about? The Sahibzade became Shaheed at this time. How can you feel happy and buy your kids gifts wrapped in shiny paper? Even the Shia Muslims are better than us that they have not forgotten what happened in Karbala 1400 years ago yet Sikhs have forgotten what happened only 300 years ago and celebrate the birth of Jesus or some European pagan holiday

[Guest Jacfsing2]

While the whole world celebrates Christmas and are typically happy at that point in time, but what are Sikhs happy about? The Sahibzade became Shaheed at this time. How can you feel happy and buy your kids gifts wrapped in shiny paper? Even the Shia Muslims are better than us that they have not forgotten what happened in Karbala 1400 years ago yet Sikhs have forgotten what happened only 300 years ago and celebrate the birth of Jesus or some European pagan holiday

When Guru Arjun Dev Ji was Shaheed, he said,"Tera Kiya Mitta Lage", your saying the Muslims are better? Who is hated most in the world for failure of assimilation.

[jkvlondon 5,634]

While the whole world celebrates Christmas and are typically happy at that point in time, but what are Sikhs happy about? The Sahibzade became Shaheed at this time. How can you feel happy and buy your kids gifts wrapped in shiny paper? Even the Shia Muslims are better than us that they have not forgotten what happened in Karbala 1400 years ago yet Sikhs have forgotten what happened only 300 years ago and celebrate the birth of Jesus or some European pagan holiday

I don't celebrate just have backdrop props ... Christmas stopped being about christianity many many hundred years ago . we eat normally , work as normal . SIkhi vich sare din are same , all equally blessed .

[JRoudh 13]

Last year we had a very robust discussion here about the hollowness of some Sikhs who put Christmas trees in their houses.

Lot of us learnt from that discussion and agreed to stop following this mindless ritual at their houses.

I hope this trend is followed by more and more Sikhs all over the world.

Like Johny explained clearly,

"It is not befitting of a Sikh of the Guru to put up a Christmas tree in his/her house. Firstly we are not Christians that we need to celebrate this holyday of Yasoo Masee. Secondly if your excuse is that you are celebrating it because it is a European pagan holyday, then please do your self a favour and look at yourself in the mirror and see for yourself, YOU ARE NOT A GORA! so stop trying to act like a coconut because that's exactly what you are if you celebrate by putting up a Christmas tree.

A Sikh should be very careful living in the west. If you celebrate these non Sikh holydays with your family what kind of sanskaars are you giving to your children? you are basically confusing your children who will grow up thinking it is perfectly okay to celebrate Christmas and by extention Hanakah and even Eid! then we wonder where we went wrong when our confused girls grow up marrying Muslims and Christians.

Buying your children stuff during this time of the year one should give it to them like it is any other time of the year. Don't make it look like something special by gift wrapping it like you are giving it to them because it's. Don't confuse your children by making them think Christmas is a special day."

I agree one of the reasons why some Sikhs are converting to other beliefs is because they are brought up way to liberalised hence these Sikhs dont take the rightfull path of Sikhism seriously are are swayed by preachers from other religions. This also sets a bad example to the youth who think Sikhs will celebrate anything. I think it is more to do about Sikhs will use any excuse to have a good drink. Lets face it christmas is not a religious occasion anyway its a time to get together and take out the whisky bottles and roast chicken.

Obviously if your like me having a few drinks over Christmas is not gonna make us any less Sikh. Infact it shows how strong we are in our faith that we can celebrate christmas and not feel threatened. But I think we should definantly not be putting any trees up and decorations as apart from looking ridiculous it sets a bad exaple to the youth. We should be celebrating more Sikh occasions. W

Muslims on the other hand will not celebrate Christmas because they have an inferiority complex with Christianity as Islam is a mixture of christian and Jewish beliefs mixed with some arab tradions and hey presto you have Islam. Hnece these people feel tenderhearted by chritianity

[_singhni_ 141]

As Guru Gobind Singh Jis gurupurb is on 28th December if you don't want kids to miss out to there Christmas celebrating friends then instead of a tree why not put up a Nishan Sahib & then put presents under neath the Nishan sahib for kids to open on guru jis birthday instead of a Xmas tree & presents to open on the day the world celebrates Jesus's birth ?

have heard how many families with Young kids to this & think it's awesome. As kids don't miss out & also learn the importance of gurupurb etc.

[jkvlondon 5,634]

As Guru Gobind Singh Jis gurupurb is on 28th December if you don't want kids to miss out to there Christmas celebrating friends then instead of a tree why not put up a Nishan Sahib & then put presents under neath the Nishan sahib for kids to open on guru jis birthday instead of a Xmas tree & presents to open on the day the world celebrates Jesus's birth

have heard how many families with Young kids to this & think it's awesome. As kids don't miss out & also learn the importance of gurupurb etc.

can see the enterprising use this as an excuse to accumulate on all the prakash diwases :biggrin2:

[Jonny101 4,380]

When Guru Arjun Dev Ji was Shaheed, he said,"Tera Kiya Mitta Lage", your saying the Muslims are better? Who is hated most in the world for failure of assimilation.

Tera Kiya Meetha laage, so this is how you twist meaning of Bani in order to celebrate and party when the Sahibzaade became Shaheeds? history is witness how when the Sahibzaade became Shaheeds, the entire Sikh Panth was sad(not happy like you). They then took a terrible revenge against Wazir Khan and the city of Sirhind. And yes Shia Muslims are better than those Sikhs who have forgotten the Shaheedi of the Sahibzaade and celebrate and live merrily and cheerfully when one of the worst things happened in Sikh history.

If you want to celebrate this time of the year, then go to the Gurdwara, do more Paath, Simran in remembrance of Guru Gobind Singh Jee whose matchless sons became Shaheeds. The Chhote Sahibzaade were even tortured before being bricked alive. How can you feel happy during Christmas knowing that? Thori Ji Sharam karo

[JRoudh 13]

As Guru Gobind Singh Jis gurupurb is on 28th December if you don't want kids to miss out to there Christmas celebrating friends then instead of a tree why not put up a Nishan Sahib & then put presents under neath the Nishan sahib for kids to open on guru jis birthday instead of a Xmas tree & presents to open on the day the world celebrates Jesus's birth

have heard how many families with Young kids to this & think it's awesome. As kids don't miss out & also learn the importance of gurupurb etc.

Or instead of putting a star on top of the tree you could put a Khanda on it. personaly I think all trees and decorations should go though. Its not about hating christians or chritmas its just common sence. Why celelbrate something that is not part of your religion. but then again. as I said before its all about the drinking and eating.

[JagsawSingh 860]

By the looks of things, my fellow Sikhs on this forum are the only people left in this world who still equate modern day 'christmas' with Jesus. Perhaps this is partialy true in North America where Christianity is still alive, but to the rest of the developed world (of which our children are a part) christmas is Santa's big day.

The year is 2014. Not 1942. Christianity and Jesus don't even come into the equation anymore. Its a time for all kids, of all creeds and faiths, to get some presents and have some fun. My kids are certainly getting into the spirit of Santa, the tree looks good in the corner of the room with lights on and the children are strong enough in their Sikh belief not to let a tree and a fat jolly fella with a red suit question their belief system. :blink2: