Breaking: Radical Pro-Rss Group Tries To Take Possession Of Historical Gurdwara; Granthi Thrashed And Belongings Thrown Out

[hsingh8963 371]

JAMMU & KASHMIR (May 2, 2015)—Situation turned tense after the local Brahmin Sabha forcibly tried to take possession of Gurdwara Sahib Singh Sabha in Kishtwar, Kashmir. It has been learnt that some persons forbicly broke locks of some Gurdwara Sahib rooms and threatened family members of the sevadars. Belongings from some of the Gurdwara rooms were thrown out, along with religious articles.

SSP of Kishtwar has promised to take swift action against the accused and promised to arrest them immediately. Local Sikhs have termed the act of sacrilege as cowardly and highly outrageous.

A press conference was organized at the Press Club of Jammu yesterday in which Tarlochan Singh Wazir of State Gurdwara Board said that the act of violence at a historical Gurdwara needs to be dealt with seriousness. Wazir stated that yesterday, on April 30, 2015, some miscreants entered the Gurdwara after breaking locks and thrashed the Granthi.

Wazir said that violent acts have continued against the Gurdwara and its sevadars since years. He informed that a case has already been filed against one Chander Kant who has in past tried to create trouble at the Gurdwara Sahib. He added that inaction in the case allowed the miscreants to enter the Gurdwara forcibly and throw out the belongings.

The SGPC has condemned the incident and called for a strict action against the accused.

History

Guru Nanak Sahib stayed here at a garden of sidhas known as ‘Sidhian di Bagichi’ and had discourses with religious leaders. A Gurdwara Sahib was established here in 1916 later on by Bhai Sahib Sher Singh Kashmir.

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[ghettosikh 221]

These RSS are playing with fire our sikh nation is a sleeping lion and you aren't supposed to poke sticks at the sleeping lion because sooner or later it will wake up!

[lsingh 748]

Seems like there is little interest when a Sikh Granthis gets thrashed by Hindvata groups. This story should have gone viral but alas some of the Sanathan people on forums think this is Ok. The Sikh gave their lives to protect the Brahmins of Kashmir and this is thanks Sikhs get.

[cool water 142]

This is what Sikhs deserve for saving brahmins from forcible conversion to Islam all those centuries ago.

This is why there is a saying in punjabi..... you cant trust a snake nor can you trust a brahmin just like a snake it will eventually turn against you.

[1ManArmy 136]

The RSS is highly active throughout India and are growing with their radicals views; I hope this news reaches out to the whole Panth.

[Jonny101 4,238]

This attack happened in J & K where Sikhs are a small minority. We are even being attacked in Punab and we don't do or say anything. It's not about Brahmins or any other castes. But Sikhs are getting attacked all over. A few years ago people belonging to the Chamar community had attacked a gurdwara in Dansiwal. The attackers came in with their shoes on, did beadbi in front of Guru Maharaj and also changed the Nishan Sahib to their symbol which represents their artificially created man made Ravidassia cult.

Sikhs should have retaliated hard for this Maha Beadbi, but Sikhs were scared of being labelled as casteist by the leftist liberals among us (as it happened during the Talhan riots when a hand full of Sikhs fought back against Ravidassia attackers). And still to this day, Ravidassia cultists do all sorts of attacks on us openly and spread lies and hatred on their TV Channel about the Sikhs, but our leaders, Panthic Jathabandis, Sampradahs will not say a word because they are scared of the casteist label.

[S4NGH 747]

Im confused. Was the granthi not shastar-dhari? Bahmana to shittar ka re ha, ke apna anak da jazba muk gaya ah?

and whats gunna happen when these b*stards get caught? Oh we'll just hand them over to the police, their effin dads! (Refer to recent rajasthan case). We're a sovereign kaum. We have our own laws when the law of the land fails to protect our very basic human rights. So sad that our "shastars" have become mere decorations. Our gatray are no more than janaos, a "sacred" thread serving no purpose but ritual.

[cool water 142]

ravidassian cultists are another group of snakes that should have been left to rot when muslim invaders and hindu kings were enslaving their people to work for free.

one by one ....the people that the Sikhs had saved in history, always backstabbed the Sikhs one way or another... the reason is because Sikhs dont think much with their heads but more with their hearts, they look out for other communities while their own get used and abused by ungrateful dogs they once helped.

We need to be more like the muslims, jews and guji hindus they are tight with their money and hardly ever help people of other communities. Recently a nagar kirtan went past and some of our guji neighbours said punjabi sikhs are very generous people they give so much food and drinks for free to everyone. And then I remembered what happens during a hindu guji procession and they only give our refreshments right at the end to their own people. Which is what Sikhs should do be doing but Sikhs being daft they dont realise other communities dont care about how generous they are.... lesson in life is....you gotta look out for your own Sikh community first cos no one else will.

[TheFancyBanana 747]

ravidassian cultists are another group of snakes that should have been left to rot when muslim invaders and hindu kings were enslaving their people to work for free.

one by one ....the people that the Sikhs had saved in history, always backstabbed the Sikhs one way or another... the reason is because Sikhs dont think much with their heads but more with their hearts, they look out for other communities while their own get used and abused by ungrateful dogs they once helped.

We need to be more like the muslims, jews and guji hindus they are tight with their money and hardly ever help people of other communities. Recently a nagar kirtan went past and some of our guji neighbours said punjabi sikhs are very generous people they give so much food and drinks for free to everyone. And then I remembered what happens during a hindu guji procession and they only give our refreshments right at the end to their own people. Which is what Sikhs should do be doing but Sikhs being daft they dont realise other communities dont care about how generous they are.... lesson in life is....you gotta look out for your own Sikh community first cos no one else will.

Except that totally goes against Sikhi and what our Gurus taught us to do.

It goes against the things they actually practiced!

I completely agree, we should be more vigilant and should protect our own better. We have failed to stick together, we always argue and fight each other. Thats the problem, there is no leadership, no combined effort to tackle problems. We need to act together to solve our problems. Would we be so easily attacked if we got together?

But we should never stop doing the things our Gurus taught us to do. Why shouldn't we share food with others? Why shouldn't we defend other communities?

Do we really need a thank you from people if we do the right thing?

[lsingh 748]

Shasters against guns are not much use. The RSS regularly train with modern firearms and have added heavier weapons and explosives recently to their arsenal. They commanded and trained by ex Indian army and Police officers.

Unfortunately Sikhs get labelled as terrorists by even by our own lot if they try to defend themselves.

[Ranjeet01 1,697]

The difference between us Sikhs and the non-Sikhs is that we put everyone else first and ourselves last because it is seva and therefore it is "self-less" and we must recognise the "Human race is one".

Let us not forget that Sikhs are humans too.

[StarStriker 1,062]

"Chander KANT"..........he couldnt have a more appropriate name than that, h@rami salahh

[KhoonKaBadlaKhoon 775]

Except that totally goes against Sikhi and what our Gurus taught us to do.

It goes against the things they actually practiced!

I completely agree, we should be more vigilant and should protect our own better. We have failed to stick together, we always argue and fight each other. Thats the problem, there is no leadership, no combined effort to tackle problems. We need to act together to solve our problems. Would we be so easily attacked if we got together?

But we should never stop doing the things our Gurus taught us to do. Why shouldn't we share food with others? Why shouldn't we defend other communities?

Do we really need a thank you from people if we do the right thing?

No one is asking for a thank you, but how about not being back stabbed? Should have sent the Kashmiri pandits packing in my opinion.

[DTF 160]

This is what Sikhs deserve for saving brahmins from forcible conversion to Islam all those centuries ago.

This is why there is a saying in punjabi..... you cant trust a snake nor can you trust a brahmin just like a snake it will eventually turn against you.

D = cool water this is a calculated move by the RSS in order to stop Kashmiri pandits converting en masse to Sikhi. Look into the family backgrounds of shaheeds like Bhai Mati Dass Ji and Bhai Sati Dass Ji alongside Dhan Dhan Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Maharaj's supreme sacrifice. Mehtab Singh of this very forum is an inspirational Khalsa now who was former Hindu of Punjabi Brahmin ancestry. Our response to this calculated action by the RSS should not be to condemn all brahmins en masse but to re-double our parchaar efforts to Hindu Brahmins as history ought to provide evidence to them that Sikhi is the truth. I personally know of former Punjabi Brahmins who are know brilliant Amritdhari Sikhs today and those sehajdhari Sikhs supposedly called hindu brahmins should be recognised as the Sikhs if they attend Gurdwara.

A few years ago people belonging to the Chamar community had attacked a gurdwara in Dansiwal. The attackers came in with their shoes on, did beadbi in front of Guru Maharaj and also changed the Nishan Sahib to their symbol which represents their artificially created man made * cult.

Sikhs should have retaliated hard for this Maha Beadbi, but Sikhs were scared of being labelled as casteist by the leftist liberals among us.

And still to this day, * cultists do all sorts of attacks on us openly and spread lies and hatred on their TV Channel about the Sikhs, but our leaders, Panthic Jathabandis, Sampradahs will not say a word because they are scared of the casteist label.

D = Johnny Paji the attackers at Dansiwal were not of chamar ancestry. They were Congress goons ignorant of the fact that Dhan Dhan (Gur) Ravidas Ji Maharaj shloks are within Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj (in contrast to Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj's contribution). Such beadbi will continue unabated as the aim of our Hindutva opponents is to classify all those of a leatherworking ancestry as non-Sikhs by the 2021 census in Punjab. If our opponents are successful in this aim Sikhs will be lower than 50% of the Punjab population in 2021 as a consequence. As you are aware, Sikhs are already a minority in Doaba. As a Gursikh who I sincerely respect, I would humbly request that you spread awareness that only Sikhs are true Ravidassia's as only we Sikhs follow Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj's teachings and that our opponents do such acts of beadbi to foment anti-chamar sentiment (as a means of pushing the demographic out of the Sikh Panth by 2021) thereby allowing new generations to forget that Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji (a Gurmukh hated and despised by our Dera Ballan Hindutva opponents) actually led the Sikh Fauj at Guru Sahib's request and that Giani Ditt Singh Ji is also vehemently hated by Dera Ballan for being the brains behind the Akali Singh Sabha revolution. Confrontation with our Hindutva opponents paid goons is what needs to be avoided at all costs (as that is what our opponents want to portray Sikhs as enemies of the stated demographic) in cases such as Dansiwal and instead we need to re-double our Gurdwara security in readiness and more importantly parchaar efforts emphasising Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj's opposition to Dera Ballan's casteist apartheid lies and the contributions of great members of the Khalsa Panth such as Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji and Giani Ditti Singh Ji to Sikhi.

Im confused. Was the granthi not shastar-dhari? Bahmana to shittar ka re ha, ke apna anak da jazba muk gaya ah?

and whats gunna happen when these b*stards get caught? Oh we'll just hand them over to the police, their effin dads! (Refer to recent rajasthan case).

So sad that our "shastars" have become mere decorations. Our gatray are no more than janaos, a "sacred" thread serving no purpose but ritual.

D = I agree that all Sikhs should be tyaar bar tyaar and carry firearms wherever possible both to defend ourselves and others. Given the ancestry of great Sikh shaheeds like Bhai Mati Dass Ji and Bhai Sati Dass Ji we should refrain from generalising our Hindutva opponents as bahmans as this is exactly what our opponents want - create hatred between segments of the community in order to stop the wholscale conversion en masse of many of leatherworking or brahmin ancestries to Sikhi (since Sikhi is the Truth).

D = The Rajasthan case was a classic example. Instead of having three Gursikhs actively devoting their lifetimes to fighting the plagues of alcolhol, drugs, infanticide, biraderi, cancer, illiteracy and poverty afflicting our Panth they get to rot in jail for the rest of their lives. The pakhandi cult get a shaheed. Conclusion our opponents succeed in their objectives and we failed. Agree with you regarding certain Sikhs treating the exhortation that we should carry Panj shastar to protect the weak as an excuse to carry their version of dhaage.

[cool water 142]

D = cool water this is a calculated move by the RSS in order to stop Kashmiri pandits converting en masse to Sikhi. Look into the family backgrounds of shaheeds like Bhai Mati Dass Ji and Bhai Sati Dass Ji alongside Dhan Dhan Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Maharaj's supreme sacrifice. Mehtab Singh of this very forum is an inspirational Khalsa now who was former Hindu of Punjabi Brahmin ancestry. Our response to this calculated action by the RSS should not be to condemn all brahmins en masse but to re-double our parchaar efforts to Hindu Brahmins as history ought to provide evidence to them that Sikhi is the truth. I personally know of former Punjabi Brahmins who are know brilliant Amritdhari Sikhs today and those sehajdhari Sikhs supposedly called hindu brahmins should be recognised as the Sikhs if they attend Gurdwara.

When I refer to the brahmins i'm taking about the castist Hindu brahmins especially those who are in anti-sikh organisations like brahmin sena.

Also can I make a small request? Can you not type in that style it is very difficult to read and looks like your writing and essay in which case most users will not reply to you as they cant be bothered to have such a long exchange.