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As an observer of humanity and society I see how western culture is all about hedonist lifestyles where getting drunk or taking drugs is the main highlight of a often depressing week. I see how the drugs epidemic has taken its hold of youth in punjab because they either think its cool getting zoned out or their lives are that depressing and no hope they just want to not face up to reality of their life.

Now as a follower of the Sikh religion, I dont have any need for intoxicants. I get high and spiritual uplifting from reading about Sikh history, Sikh scriptures and mediating on Waheguru.

We have to ask people, particularly our younger generation who are falling in the traps of atheist lifestyles via peer pressure and social media....... which is more healthier for their mind, bodies and society in the long run.

Sikhi or intoxicants?

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Ever been to a Rehansbhai? Funnily enough, after a prolonged evening of Saas Giraas Simran and the attendant breathlessness, I literally feel kind of high. Sort of dizzy, hazy and wonderfully mellow.

Before anyone jumps on my back, I'm not joking, and I'm certainly not criticizing. It's amazing. Far cheaper and far less spiritually corrosive than a drug habit too.

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Haha I'd rather be in my hosh or else I'd go crazy. Sometimes when I'd do phat, and I feel as if I don't have control anymore or I start feeling dizzy I'd stop and just run away mid way into the phat (and I'd restart again in a few hours) because that scares me (this happened years ago), it doesn't really happen anymore.

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As an observer of humanity and society I see how western culture is all about hedonist lifestyles where getting drunk or taking drugs is the main highlight of a often depressing week. I see how the drugs epidemic has taken its hold of youth in punjab because they either think its cool getting zoned out or their lives are that depressing and no hope they just want to not face up to reality of their life.

Now as a follower of the Sikh religion, I dont have any need for intoxicants. I get high and spiritual uplifting from reading about Sikh history, Sikh scriptures and mediating on Waheguru.

We have to ask people, particularly our younger generation who are falling in the traps of atheist lifestyles via peer pressure and social media....... which is more healthier for their mind, bodies and society in the long run.

Sikhi or intoxicants?

ਏ ਰਸਨਾ ਤੂ ਅਨ ਰਸਿ ਰਾਚਿ ਰਹੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਪਿਆਸ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥

Eae Rasanaa Thoo An Ras Raach Rehee Thaeree Piaas N Jaae ||

ए रसना तू अन रसि राचि रही तेरी पिआस न जाइ ॥

O my tongue, you are engrossed in other tastes, but your thirsty desire is not quenched.

ਪਿਆਸ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਹੋਰਤੁ ਕਿਤੈ ਜਿਚਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਲੈ ਨ ਪਾਇ ॥

Piaas N Jaae Horath Kithai Jichar Har Ras Palai N Paae ||

पिआस न जाइ होरतु कितै जिचरु हरि रसु पलै न पाइ ॥

Your thirst shall not be quenched by any means, until you attain the subtle essence of the Lord.

ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇ ਪਲੈ ਪੀਐ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਬਹੁੜਿ ਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਲਾਗੈ ਆਇ ॥

Har Ras Paae Palai Peeai Har Ras Bahurr N Thrisanaa Laagai Aae ||

हरि रसु पाइ पलै पीऐ हरि रसु बहुड़ि न त्रिसना लागै आइ ॥

If you do obtain the subtle essence of the Lord, and drink in this essence of the Lord, you shall not be troubled by desire again.

ਏਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਕਰਮੀ ਪਾਈਐ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਇ ॥

Eaehu Har Ras Karamee Paaeeai Sathigur Milai Jis Aae ||

एहु हरि रसु करमी पाईऐ सतिगुरु मिलै जिसु आइ ॥

This subtle essence of the Lord is obtained by good karma, when one comes to meet with the True Guru.

ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਹੋਰਿ ਅਨ ਰਸ ਸਭਿ ਵੀਸਰੇ ਜਾ ਹਰਿ ਵਸੈ ਮਨਿ ਆਇ ॥੩੨॥

Kehai Naanak Hor An Ras Sabh Veesarae Jaa Har Vasai Man Aae ||32||

कहै नानकु होरि अन रस सभि वीसरे जा हरि वसै मनि आइ ॥३२॥

Says Nanak, all other tastes and essences are forgotten, when the Lord comes to dwell within the mind. ||32||

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i think amrit vela is the closest i have gotten to feeling a type of high, but i cant really tell coz ive never been high from a substance so i cant compare it really, I get like a euphoric feeling of dizzness when i eat salad, its so weird but feels really good, is that what being high feels like?

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also,

whats our take on drugs such as weed? its a natural drug and a plant and im sure it was used in war times by sikhs and im sure nihangs still use it today, so whats the deal with it, i kinda wanna try it just to know what being high feels like so i can compare it to my experience with naam, and also so i dont look like a hypocrit in philosophy class when i tell people that you can get high of naam or have a religious experience similar to a high when you meditate.

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also,

whats our take on drugs such as weed? its a natural drug and a plant and im sure it was used in war times by sikhs and im sure nihangs still use it today, so whats the deal with it, i kinda wanna try it just to know what being high feels like so i can compare it to my experience with naam, and also so i dont look like a hypocrit in philosophy class when i tell people that you can get high of naam or have a religious experience similar to a high when you meditate.

Are we allowed to even talk about this?

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also,

whats our take on drugs such as weed? its a natural drug and a plant and im sure it was used in war times by sikhs and im sure nihangs still use it today, so whats the deal with it, i kinda wanna try it just to know what being high feels like so i can compare it to my experience with naam, and also so i dont look like a hypocrit in philosophy class when i tell people that you can get high of naam or have a religious experience similar to a high when you meditate.

DO NOT DO IT.

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also,

whats our take on drugs such as weed? its a natural drug and a plant and im sure it was used in war times by sikhs and im sure nihangs still use it today, so whats the deal with it, i kinda wanna try it just to know what being high feels like so i can compare it to my experience with naam, and also so i dont look like a hypocrit in philosophy class when i tell people that you can get high of naam or have a religious experience similar to a high when you meditate.

Smoking anything is a bujjar Kurehat. Sukha however was only to be taken in times of war by Nihang Singhs, those among their samparda who take it for purposes of leisure or philosophical enrichment are abusing it.

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Smoking anything is a bujjar Kurehat. Sukha however was only to be taken in times of war by Nihang Singhs, those among their samparda who take it for purposes of leisure or philosophical enrichment are abusing it.

I don't smoke or anything, I'm just curious-- do you know how bujjer kurehits work for non-amritdharis?

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I don't smoke or anything, I'm just curious-- do you know how bujjer kurehits work for non-amritdharis?

A non-Amritdhari has not technically made a promise to adhere to the rehat maryada, as a Khalsa has. Therefore they cannot really be punished for a kurehat, which arises when one violates the rehat. Ideally though, all Sikhs should refrain from committing a bujjar kurehat, irrespective of whether or not they have received Pahul. No good can come of any of them.

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