Why Our So Many Sikh Men Mama Boys

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

There's often a 'Queen Bee' syndrome at work in extended Panjabi homes when the mother sees herself as the head and goes overboard in maintaining her perceived authority and ranking amongst younger females that marry into the family.

One of things I have realised over the years, there is a lot going on with women that a lot of blokes do not realise.

With women, a lot of communication is covert and unless you are not aware of the signals you will not pick it up.

My dad used to call it doing the "bhenji bhenji".

[jkvlondon 5,876]

Personally, I have never heard of a situation where a husband pressurised his wife to have an abortion because they may be having a girl.

It's funny in the west that feminists claim a woman's right to choose to have an abortion but claim the opposite when women in the east have one.

who the hell you think is paying for the scan in the first place and the procedure after ?

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

who the hell you think is paying for the scan in the first place and the procedure after ?

How is paying for a procedure equate to pressuring?

[jkvlondon 5,876]

How is paying for a procedure equate to pressuring?

most people in punjab complain abou spending on everything , so they obviously sanction finding out the sex as an important spend , and once the result is found out they book in th e abortion then and there putting down more money ...if that is not pressurising the mother of the baby what is in your book? most married women would not expect to abort a child of that marriage least of all for the crass reason of sex besides it's the guy's bindh that decide the sex unpard gwar loki will only blame a girl

[jkvlondon 5,876]

Personally, I have never heard of a situation where a husband pressurised his wife to have an abortion because they may be having a girl.

It's funny in the west that feminists claim a woman's right to choose to have an abortion but claim the opposite when women in the east have one.

I have met women who have had repeated procedures because the guy can only produce females ... the weight of the sin lies heavy on their hearts not the man's

p.s. that is why there was a policy of not revealing sex to Indians in UK for so many years

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

most people in punjab complain abou spending on everything , so they obviously sanction finding out the sex as an important spend , and once the result is found out they book in th e abortion then and there putting down more money ...if that is not pressurising the mother of the baby what is in your book? most married women would not expect to abort a child of that marriage least of all for the crass reason of sex besides it's the guy's bindh that decide the sex unpard gwar loki will only blame a girl

How do you not know that it was the woman's choice to have the abortion and the husband foots the bill?

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

I have met women who have had repeated procedures because the guy can only produce females ... the weight of the sin lies heavy on their hearts not the man's

p.s. that is why there was a policy of not revealing sex to Indians in UK for so many years

More so the overall family pressure, and the vast majority of fathers love their daughters.

A lot of that pressure would come from mother-in-laws.

[Jonny101 4,391]

How do you not know that it was the woman's choice to have the abortion and the husband foots the bill?

A relative of mine in India was very much against abortion as he would discuss this issue with me. But then he got married. His wife is a highly educated woman while he was not. Since he has gotten married they have aborted two times because his wife did not want to have a second daughter. Finally now she has given birth to a boy. I stopped talking to them after I found out because it is hukam for a Sikh to not talk to such murderers.

[MisterrSingh 5,263]

It's a bit of both IMO, when it comes to apportioning blame for who's responsible for instigating abortions back home. In some cases where the guy is top-dog and isn't the kind to be pushed around and manipulated by women, he keeps a keen eye on such developments and gets them sorted when and if they occur. In most other cases, especially where the guy is one of those carefree, overgrown children who hasn't got a clue about anything, it's definitely the mother-in-law who gets the ball rolling.

And then there's the few cases where ingrained cultural attitudes transcend gender and education - as posted by Jonny Ji above - where even professional, educated women don't baulk at terminations. For them, it's as routine as going to get a filling for a tooth. I kid you not.

[jkvlondon 5,876]

How do you not know that it was the woman's choice to have the abortion and the husband foots the bill?

why would a child within a sanctified marriage be aborted , when your beloved contraception is available ? ....you know the truth you are just too ashamed of the men who do it ...

they and others who do this are not sikhs full stop , they cannot see beyond money and trappings they cannot see it is HUKHAM they should have a daughter. I remember reading a sakhi of kudimarr and they ended up having that daughter reborn in their house after their son , she told them as much 'main vapas agiaa' to the father who murdered her previous janam.

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

why would a child within a sanctified marriage be aborted , when your beloved contraception is available ? ....you know the truth you are just too ashamed of the men who do it ...

they and others who do this are not sikhs full stop , they cannot see beyond money and trappings they cannot see it is HUKHAM they should have a daughter. I remember reading a sakhi of kudimarr and they ended up having that daughter reborn in their house after their son , she told them as much 'main vapas agiaa' to the father who murdered her previous janam.

Women have abortions for many different reasons, even Sikh women.

Not every Sikh woman who has an abortion because the evil brown Sikh man coerced her to.

Not every Sikh woman who may have an abortion because she might be giving birth to a girl.

To parade this myth that the evil brown Sikh male is behind every Sikh female abortion is ludicrous.

Why is that when a white western female has an abortion then it is her right to choose and it is her body, but when a brown Asian female has one it is because she is oppressed by the evil brown male.

It is an insult to the intelligence of every Asian brown female.

[jkvlondon 5,876]

Women have abortions for many different reasons, even Sikh women.

Not every Sikh woman who has an abortion because the evil brown Sikh man coerced her to.

Not every Sikh woman who may have an abortion because she might be giving birth to a girl.

To parade this myth that the evil brown Sikh male is behind every Sikh female abortion is ludicrous.

Why is that when a white western female has an abortion then it is her right to choose and it is her body, but when a brown Asian female has one it is because she is oppressed by the evil brown male.

It is an insult to the intelligence of every Asian brown female.

NO SIKH would do this man or women because they live in hukham ...explain it to me why the abortion figures year on year are highest in Punjab when compared to any other state in the Indian union? Are you saying punjabi women are incapable of getting prescriptons for the pill or intrauterine devices or their partners plain simple condoms - they are that simple and unknowing that they fall pregnant without knowing the facts of life? it takes two people to make the problem so the blame is equal and the sin too...just in case your machismo is getting dinged up by my words. Or perhaps your contention is that sikh women are the biggest slappers going that's why they keep revisiting the clinics . The reason for abortion due handicap, risk to mother is a very very small percentage, and also those resulting from rape/abuse , mostly is done for financial reasons and the truth is all fetuses have to be sexed for accurate counts (as the GOI is concerned about their public image) and over 85% are female...

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

NO SIKH would do this man or women because they live in hukham ...explain it to me why the abortion figures year on year are highest in Punjab when compared to any other state in the Indian union? Are you saying punjabi women are incapable of getting prescriptons for the pill or intrauterine devices or their partners plain simple condoms - they are that simple and unknowing that they fall pregnant without knowing the facts of life? it takes two people to make the problem so the blame is equal and the sin too...just in case your machismo is getting dinged up by my words. Or perhaps your contention is that sikh women are the biggest slappers going that's why they keep revisiting the clinics . The reason for abortion due handicap, risk to mother is a very very small percentage, and also those resulting from rape/abuse , mostly is done for financial reasons and the truth is all fetuses have to be sexed for accurate counts (as the GOI is concerned about their public image) and over 85% are female...

The same reasons in the west that women have abortions even though there are contraception and family planning clinics.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Women have abortions for many different reasons, even Sikh women.

Not every Sikh woman who has an abortion because the evil brown Sikh man coerced her to.

Not every Sikh woman who may have an abortion because she might be giving birth to a girl.

To parade this myth that the evil brown Sikh male is behind every Sikh female abortion is ludicrous.

Why is that when a white western female has an abortion then it is her right to choose and it is her body, but when a brown Asian female has one it is because she is oppressed by the evil brown male.

It is an insult to the intelligence of every Asian brown female.

We literally shouldn't be associating with tyrants and killing someone purely because of their gender is tyranny. Nobody excused the non-Sikhs from having an abortion.

[Ranjeet01 2,359]

In our maryada it says not to even associate yourself with people who kill their children.. So is that proof enough that we cannot do that? Yes.

Even though it against Maryada,I am saying that there is a diverse set of reasons why people may do it.