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I've come across quite a few muslim girls ripe for conversion since they are only culturally muslim but hate practising the islamic faith. I need idea's how to get them to reject the arab abrahmic cult of islam and embrace sikhi. Also I want to help brahminwad hindu punjabi hindni's leave their stupid superstitious rituals and foolish idol worshiping ways and become sikh women and supporters of Khalistan.

What in your views would be the best strategies to convert these 2 types of women any idea's?

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I've come across quite a few muslim girls ripe for conversion since they are only culturally muslim but hate practising the islamic faith. I need idea's how to get them to reject the arab abrahmic cult of islam and embrace sikhi. Also I want to help brahminwad hindu punjabi hindni's leave their stupid superstitious rituals and foolish idol worshiping ways and become sikh women and supporters of Khalistan.

What in your views would be the best strategies to convert these 2 types of women any idea's?

If Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji wants them to be Sikhs, he'll make them. Gur-prassad is the only way, (even Jugraj Singh of BasicsOfSikhi admits he can't make people Sikhs, and he happens to be one of the better pracharaks). I also don't agree with your ulterior motives for them to be Sikh, (seems like the way you worded it, you just want them to follow you, not Guru Sahib). Ask them to go to a Gurdwara something, but no compulsion.
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Why are people responding to this as if genie has suggested luring them into cages with skittles? There is no coercion here, and there is nothing bad about bringing people out from the darkness into the light of Sikhi. I would say the best way to accomplish this would simply be to market Sikhi more actively, as it clearly has several advantages over other faiths - equality of men and women, no casteism, no superstition. However nowadays this isn't enough, because Muslim women are convinced they are equal to their menfolk, and Hindus are adamant that the caste system is not part of their faith. As well as educating these people about Sikhi, it seems we will have to educate them about their own religions too.

These Muslimahs, if they are anything like most Muslims, probably don't know the first thing about Islam. All you have to do is lay bare Islam's hatred and backwardness, and maybe draw attention to Muhammad's impressive list of violent and sexually-deviant hijinks, and if they aren't completely immoral or brainwashed they couldn't fail to be repulsed. For anyone inclined to draw comparisons between this and the Muslims' conversion of our own women, these girls don't leave Sikhi because they fundamentally disagree with its philosophy [they hardly know enough about it to do that]. They become Muslims because they have fetishes for Pakis or want to rebel against their overbearing Punjabi parents.

Hindus will be much trickier. Hinduism is inherently more duplicitous. It's followers show as many faces as those gods of theirs, which is why you have so many Hindu Punjabis who are convinced that they can worship Guru Nanak Dev whilst still observing their anti-Sikh idol-worship and superstition. Years of miscegenation between HPs and very lax Sikhs have ensured that this mindset is well-entrenched. Arguing with them is much more difficult. The Muslims at least have a clearly defined set of principles to attack, these people don't. Any argument with them quickly devolves into an exhausting mental gymnastics.

His wording made it seem like he had some ulterior motive.

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Bro when you start topics like this, how do you think it makes us look like especially using words like "ripe for conversion,"? Or saying you want to convert someone because you want them to become supporters of Khalistan. It looks like you want to convert with the intention of revenge.

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You see, influencing conversions like that is not part of Sikhi. That is what makes us different than other abrahamic people. & why was this topic only directed exclusively to those females anyways?

You're wrong there but the way genie presented the topic is very wrong as well.
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Bro when you start topics like this, how do you think it makes us look like especially using words like "ripe for conversion,"? Or saying you want to convert someone because you want them to become supporters of Khalistan. It looks like you want to convert with the intention of revenge.

Yes its not just parchar and a little bit of revenge would be sweet against the anti-sikh forces out there but not the prime motivator the prime motivator is bring more people into Sikhi because by helping them into Sikhi we become better Sikhs too because we are motivated to teach them and learn ourselves.

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How so? Taking advantage of people who do not know their religion, just as muslims did is right??

Better instead to leave them alone so that someone else can take advantage of them? Perhaps some Dawaah man? Getting to these people before they can be irreversibly brainwashed with a neurotic ideology like Islam is a mercy to them and the rest of the world. Only good can come of it. If somebody is going to take advantage of their ignorance, then at least let it be a Gursikh who opens their eyes to the truest faith, instead of some predatory muslim.

Bro when you start topics like this, how do you think it makes us look like especially using words like "ripe for conversion,"? Or saying you want to convert someone because you want them to become supporters of Khalistan. It looks like you want to convert with the intention of revenge.

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When we are introducing more happy and well-adjusted Gursikhs into the Khalsa Panth, what does it matter how they were made, or whether genie and others feel a sense of poetic justice about the process? These women will be happier and freer than they have ever been permitted to be under Islam.
Sikhs have been leaving people of other faiths to their beliefs for all the years of our existence, and what do we have to show for it today? We've been screwed over by everyone, Hindus, Muslims, Christians and we are powerless to do anything about it because they each outnumber us at least 50 times over.
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Better instead to leave them alone so that someone else can take advantage of them? Perhaps some Dawaah man? Getting to these people before they can be irreversibly brainwashed with a neurotic ideology like Islam is a mercy to them and the rest of the world. Only good can come of it. If somebody is going to take advantage of their ignorance, then at least let it be a Gursikh who opens their eyes to the truest faith, instead of some predatory muslim.

When we are introducing more happy and well-adjusted Gursikhs into the Khalsa Panth, what does it matter how they were made, or whether genie and others feel a sense of poetic justice about the process? These women will be happier and freer than they have ever been permitted to be under Islam.

Sikhs have been leaving people of other faiths to their beliefs for all the years of our existence, and what do we have to show for it today? We've been screwed over by everyone, Hindus, Muslims, Christians and we are powerless to do anything about it because they each outnumber us at least 50 times over.

Well said.

Sikhs are the most generous yet more gullible religious community I have ever come across. I know my brothers in here are not dumb they are intelligent in many fields and they know what needs to be done to safeguard sikhi for the next decades to come. But they are prone to keep falling into the politically correct trap time after time even though they have expressed sentiments in the forum of someone should do something against the online islamo-fascists dawahists and shiv sena type people.

They need to take a hard look at the reality of world and learn that deception is also an important shaster that Sikhs need to use. The psy-ops against anti-sikh forces is a must in online world because they are already doing it against Sikhi and Sikhs without most of us even realising because we too busy distracted in other activities..

The Brahmin hindustani nationalists have mastered this shaster as have islamists, the freemason westerners in white right wing media, the israeli jewish Zionists, etc,etc But Sikhs on the whole have not learnt the lessons of history past and current. They have relied on their physical sheer brute force to win battles and create kingdoms/states but in the 21st century such thinking wont win anything. And also having a care free attitude of what will be will be wont work either as Sikhs will definitely get screwed over if your a liberal. There wont be a community any more which is why the strongest communities are ones which constantly evolve new techniques to ensure they are prepared for the future and to do that they start to sow the seeds in the present.

So in terms of parchar, it is responsibly of all of us to push forward the Sikh ideological agenda on the communities we face the biggest threats from to ensure Sikhi is in a good state for the near and far future to come.

I recently chatted to an indian born so called sikh girl who said all religion teaches us the same thing and was dating a muslim. When I questioned her would she convert to islam she said why not, I asked her what her parents would think she said its her life, asked her what her thoughts were on Islam saying non-believers will go to hellfire forever she said she hasnt read anything in depth about islam but all religions teach that? Then she said she doesnt worship 10 guru's but she worships a holy book.

Now this is the state of indian born sikh girls they think all religions teach the same thing and that sikhs worship a holy book lol what the hell are these people being taught? We need to educate not only these lost souls but also bring muslimahs and hindni's into sikhi and fight for Khalistan not their palestine or hindustan as they wish their converts to do.

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Well said.

Sikhs are the most generous yet more gullible religious community I have ever come across. I know my brothers in here are not dumb they are intelligent in many fields and they know what needs to be done to safeguard sikhi for the next decades to come. But they are prone to keep falling into the politically correct trap time after time even though they have expressed sentiments in the forum of someone should do something against the online islamo-fascists dawahists and shiv sena type people.

They need to take a hard look at the reality of world and learn that deception is also an important shaster that Sikhs need to use. The psy-ops against anti-sikh forces is a must in online world because they are already doing it against Sikhi and Sikhs without most of us even realising because we too busy distracted in other activities..

The Brahmin hindustani nationalists have mastered this shaster as have islamists, the freemason westerners in white right wing media, the israeli jewish Zionists, etc,etc But Sikhs on the whole have not learnt the lessons of history past and current. They have relied on their physical sheer brute force to win battles and create kingdoms/states but in the 21st century such thinking wont win anything. And also having a care free attitude of what will be will be wont work either as Sikhs will definitely get screwed over if your a liberal. There wont be a community any more which is why the strongest communities are ones which constantly evolve new techniques to ensure they are prepared for the future and to do that they start to sow the seeds in the present.

So in terms of parchar, it is responsibly of all of us to push forward the Sikh ideological agenda on the communities we face the biggest threats from to ensure Sikhi is in a good state for the near and far future to come.

I recently chatted to an indian born so called sikh girl who said all religion teaches us the same thing and was dating a muslim. When I questioned her would she convert to islam she said why not, I asked her what her parents would think she said its her life, asked her what her thoughts were on Islam saying non-believers will go to hellfire forever she said she hasnt read anything in depth about islam but all religions teach that? Then she said she doesnt worship 10 guru's but she worships a holy book.

Now this is the state of indian born sikh girls they think all religions teach the same thing and that sikhs worship a holy book lol what the hell are these people being taught? We need to educate not only these lost souls but also bring muslimahs and hindni's into sikhi and fight for Khalistan not their palestine or hindustan as they wish their converts to do.

This is what happens when we shortcut the depth of sikhi to trite sound-bites : people take respect of choice to be acceptance of their paths wholly . If we don't familiarise just who were our Guru Sahiban and how we can hear their voices through Gurbani and the status that Gurbani has people will never think of Maharaj as nothing more than paper pages ; I've heard people saying stupid things like why are sihs getting angry why don't they just get another print of the book ...uh huh that's from apnay.

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