Amrit and Rehit

[Guest Amrit]

WJKK WJKF.

I want to take amrit to try it and see what it's all about but I don't think I can keep rehit and not sure I entirely want to. Would I be allowed to do this? And when is the next amrit sanchar in London Gurdwara.

[ipledgeblue 965]

why don't you take choola instead?

[MisterrSingh 8,407]

Sounds like you're shopping for a Dulux Paint tester rather than a potential spiritual awakening, lol. Start with the basics: nitnem. Then see how you feel after a while.

[Guest Amrit]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Sounds like you're shopping for a Dulux Paint tester rather than a potential spiritual awakening, lol. Start with the basics: nitnem. Then see how you feel after a while.

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do nitnem after taking amrit.

[Guest Someguy]

13 hours ago, Guest Amrit said:

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do nitnem after taking amrit.

<banned word filter activated> lmao. You cant be serious? So you want amrit but dont want to do nitnem thats like saying I want teeth but dont want food. Or i want a body but dont want a mind. I want a leg but i dont wanna use the leg..... i assume your a troll

[Guest]

16 hours ago, Guest Amrit said:

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do nitnem after taking amrit.

Please dont waste our time, and the panj pyares time

[sikhni777 847]

17 hours ago, Guest Amrit said:

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do tnitnem after taking amrit.

Sorry not alliwed....Not allowed... go back to page 1 where It says .... do your nitnem. You will get greater peace. Having the real amrit will not trigger magic without nitnem.

Amrit flows from nitnem naturally. Create your own amrit by praying with a glass of water next to you and drink It for a start.

[Guest]

WJKK WJKF

Seeing as you want to take amrit but don't want "to do nitnem", you should try and find an amrit sanchar where they read out the Akal Takth Maryada. It's minimum and a basic maryada and the minimum nitnem is 3 not the standard 5.

Before daas took amrit, I practiced nitnem and amritvela. Once you get used to it, you can try other stuff.

 

http://old.sgpc.net/CDN/Sikh_Rehat_Maryada_English.pdf

 

Once you get used to it, take amrit. From there, since you were already given minimum maryada, you can start implementing maryada from other jathebandian of your choice to your maryada. (If you want to, or you can stay as you are)

I was told that I was going to get Akal Takth Maryada at my amrit sanchar but instead they gave me the Damdami Taksal one. The whole reason I wanted Akal Takth Maryada is because since it's minimum and there aren't much amrit sanchars that read out the Budha Dal maryada in the UK, I could simply follow it later on after getting used to it.

I had to take the hard way out.

Good luck on your journey.

WJKK WJKF

[jkvlondon 6,850]

19 hours ago, Guest Amrit said:

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do nitnem after taking amrit.

so why do you want to take amrit , if you don't want to follow Guru ji's rehit you are not some gorey general(Dwyer) who can pick and choose what bits of rehit you want to follow ? Start practicing the rehit outside of amrit as people suggest then if and only if you are fully dedicated to Guru ji then take the next step.

[jkvlondon 6,850]

57 minutes ago, monatosingh said:

WJKK WJKF

Seeing as you want to take amrit but don't want "to do nitnem", you should try and find an amrit sanchar where they read out the Akal Takth Maryada. It's minimum and a basic maryada and the minimum nitnem is 3 not the standard 5.

Before daas took amrit, I practiced nitnem and amritvela. Once you get used to it, you can try other stuff.

 

http://old.sgpc.net/CDN/Sikh_Rehat_Maryada_English.pdf

 

Once you get used to it, take amrit. From there, since you were already given minimum maryada, you can start implementing maryada from other jathebandian of your choice to your maryada. (If you want to, or you can stay as you are)

I was told that I was going to get Akal Takth Maryada at my amrit sanchar but instead they gave me the Damdami Taksal one. The whole reason I wanted Akal Takth Maryada is because since it's minimum and there aren't much amrit sanchars that read out the Budha Dal maryada in the UK, I could simply follow it later on after getting used to it.

I had to take the hard way out.

Good luck on your journey.

WJKK WJKF

of course minimum maryada doesn't even allow for Jaap sahib which all sikhs who know : japji sahib and jaap sahib are necessary minimum before eating/drinking anything

Guru Gobind Singh Sahib had set a Rehat Maryada for a Amritdhari Sikh . According to rehat a Sikh should daily “do path” of 5 banis in morning that are Japji Sahib, Jaap Sahib , Tav Prasad Sawayie, Chaupai Sahib and Anand sahib. Similarly for evening rehras sahib and at night Sohila sahib. Rehatnama :

ਗੁਰ ਸਿਖ ਰਹਿਤ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਮੀਤ

Sikhs of the Guru, listen, My Companions,

ਉੁਠਿ ਪ੍ਰ੍ਰ੍ਰਭਾਤਿ ਕਰੇ ਹਿਤ ਚੀਤ ॥ (੧)

Getting up early in the morning, remember God in your mind.

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਪੁਨ ਮੁੰਤਰਹ ਜਾਪ

Then recite the mantar of Waheguru, the Supreme Being,

ਕਰਿ ਇਸ਼ਨਾਨ ਪੜ੍ਹ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪ ॥ (੨)

And after bathing, read and recount Jap Jaap (nitnem).

Reading Nitnem in the morning, evening and at bedtime is drawing on the Guru’s DIVINE WORD to give STRENGTH and INSPIRATION for the day.

Gurbani says don't get into rituals and superstitions. Everything that gurbani says is totally practical in real life. Nitnem is a way for a singh to be in discipline. That relives and reminds him of doing what he is suppose to do.

Reading Gurbani makes you understand the meaning of gurbani. You can always listen kathas . But daily reading bani you will get a real understanding and sometimes you will be wowed by this.

And at last most compelling thing words in rehatnama:

ਰਹਿਤ ਪਿਆਰੀ ਮੁਝ ਕੋ ਸਿਖ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਨਾਹਿ ॥
rehit piaaree mujh ko, sikh piaaraa naahi.
"I love a Sikh’s disciplined way of life, not the Sikh."
(Rehatnama)

[BhForce 1,829]

20 hours ago, Guest Amrit said:

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do nitnem after taking amrit.

You don't get to put conditions on the Guru. Only those persons are given Amrit who promise to stay within the Guru's command unconditionally.

ਮੈ ਬੰਦਾ ਬੈ ਖਰੀਦੁ ਸਚੁ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਮੇਰਾ ॥

Mai Bandhaa Bai Khareedh Sach Saahib Maeraa ||

I am Your purchased slave, O True Lord Master.

ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੦੩) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੯੬ ਪੰ. ੧੩ 
Raag Thitee Gauri Guru Arjan Dev

 

How can a slave dictate conditions to his master?

A Sikh is meant to be a sacrifice himself to his Guru:

ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਹਉ ਖੰਨੀਐ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਧੁਸੂਦਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ ॥

This Gur Ko Ho Khanneeai Jin Madhhusoodhan Har Naam Sunaaeiaa ||

I am every bit a sacrifice to the Guru, the Lover of Nectar, who has revealed the Name of the Lord.

ਵਡਹੰਸ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੪) ੭:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੮੮ ਪੰ. ੧੮ 
Raag Vadhans Guru Amar Das

 

As shown above, the Guru gives the Name to the seeker. The seeker sacrifices himself for the Name:

ਹਉ ਵਾਰੀ ਵੰਞਾ ਖੰਨੀਐ ਵੰਞਾ ਤਉ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਕੇ ਨਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ho Vaaree Vannjaa Khanneeai Vannjaa Tho Saahib Kae Naavai ||1|| Rehaao ||

I am a sacrifice, cut apart into pieces, a sacrifice to Your Name, O Lord Master. ||1||Pause||

ਵਡਹੰਸ (ਮਃ ੧) (੧) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੭ ਪੰ. ੪ 
Raag Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev

 

And you, Mr. Special, don't want to be bothered to do Nitnem?

A person who does not accept the love of the Guru's command into his heart can never know the sweetness of Amrit.

[Guest Amrit]

5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

so why do you want to take amrit , if you don't want to follow Guru ji's rehit you are not some gorey general(Dwyer) who can pick and choose what bits of rehit you want to follow ? Start practicing the rehit outside of amrit as people suggest then if and only if you are fully dedicated to Guru ji then take the next step.

Because I just want to try it and see what happens. I'll decide after if i wanna do nitnem.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

According to rehat a Sikh should daily “do path” of 5 banis in morning that are Japji Sahib, Jaap Sahib , Tav Prasad Sawayie, Chaupai Sahib and Anand sahib. Similarly for evening rehras sahib and at night Sohila sahib.

Are you referring to the rehatnama or SRM? I don't recall any rehatnama stating to do 5 baania, correct me if I am wrong.

[jkvlondon 6,850]

9 minutes ago, monatosingh said:

Are you referring to the rehatnama or SRM? I don't recall any rehatnama stating to do 5 baania, correct me if I am wrong.

rehit nama from Guru Gobind Singh ji is 5 banian in morning minimum and Sodar in sunset Kirtan Sohila before sleeping .

Guru ji's bachan from before Khalsa Saajna diwas was  old nitnem  which always had Japiji sahib and Anand Sahib full Plus Sodar and Kirtan Sohila  , to which he added Jaap Sahib when the bani was brought down to Earth when he was 19 years old ...so became Japji Sahib , Jaap Sahib and Anand Sahib in morning plus Sodar  and Kirtan Sohila

the worrying thing about SRM is that anyone following it will not even be doing nitnem of pre-Khalsa days  , I cannot quote the exact pangti  but I remember that I was told that those who partook of water or food prior to doing paat of jap jaap would be reborn as 'bista ki kiram' having lost this janam (worms of fecal matter)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

rehit nama from Guru Gobind Singh ji is 5 banian in morning minimum and Sodar in sunset Kirtan Sohila before sleeping .

Guru ji's bachan from before Khalsa Saajna diwas was  old nitnem  which always had Japiji sahib and Anand Sahib full Plus Sodar and Kirtan Sohila  , to which he added Jaap Sahib when the bani was brought down to Earth when he was 19 years old ...so became Japji Sahib , Jaap Sahib and Anand Sahib in morning plus Sodar  and Kirtan Sohila

the worrying thing about SRM is that anyone following it will not even be doing nitnem of pre-Khalsa days  , I cannot quote the exact pangti  but I remember that I was told that those who partook of water or food prior to doing paat of jap jaap would be reborn as 'bista ki kiram' having lost this janam (worms of fecal matter)

Can you send me a link to the rehit nama of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? I have read about it and I believe Guru Ji did make one but are you referring to 52 hukams?

Jhatka maryada posted one but I can't find the full version of it anywhere.