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They only focus on the Punjabi Sikhs to keep our numbers low. When i went to Hazur Sahib i noticed how many Sikhs there are.

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Does that take into count of particular groups who are seen as Sikhs by other people, but have actually been excommunicated? (Akal Takth specifically mentions what it needs to be a Sikh)

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1 hour ago, monatosingh said:

Does that take into count of particular groups who are seen as Sikhs by other people, but have actually been excommunicated? (Akal Takth specifically mentions what it needs to be a Sikh)

I would guess that is without those groups as the bibi names to groups she is counting sikhligars and vanjarey, kabirpanthis, ravisdasias, naamdev followers, not narakdhari, radha soamis, naamdharis (complex)

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150 million!? Well then if these numbers are actually true then all we need is some good old parchar and the panth will be on it's way!

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Yeah i don't think they include the sikh siklighar, banjara etc population in the Sikh figures but classify them as Hindus. But how much are the Sikh leaders in Punjab even doing for these other Sikhs, nothing at all tbh 

When i went Hazur Sahib i was surprised to see how many of the local people were Sikhs. I remember seeing local ladies wearing saree's but were also wearing kirpan, kara and were Amritdharis. At first glance you would think they were Hindus but look closely and you realize they are Amritdhari Sikhs.   I'm sure its the same at patna sahib as well 

I was also surprised to see muslims at Hazur Sahib! and the muslim women would even remove the bit that covers their faces when entering the gurdwara 

 

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ive also been saying this for AGES, thats the h@rami brahmins have been distirting sikh stats for decades, whether thats population count, growth, literacy rate etc.Im not sure its quite 150m tho, otherwise that would mean, there r more sikhs outside of panjab, than within it. This is all done to kill our haunsla and make us give up!

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On 5/22/2018 at 8:50 PM, Akalifauj said:

3ho and sikhnet are related to Hinduism but have the appearance of Sikhs.

christianity too

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On 5/22/2018 at 5:59 PM, jkvlondon said:

For as long as I can remember I've had a doubt about the low 'official' numbers quoted of sikhs especially since there seems to a world approach of lumping us into the OTHERS category to hide us

http://www.azaadsikhmedia.com/the-real-population-of-sikhs-in-india-is-about-15-crores-2/

Atrocious article. Fails to give any detail whatsoever.

While it is true that that "forgotten" Sikhs like Sikligars and Vanjaras aren't being counted as Sikh, that doesn't mean that the Punjabi Sikh population is actually larger than it is.

The census does accurately reflect declining total fertility rate among Punjabi Sikhs.

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5 hours ago, puzzled said:

When i went Hazur Sahib i was surprised to see how many of the local people were Sikhs.

Yeah, it's 2%, the same percentages as Sikhs are of all of India.

The only reason you may have thought a huge amount of the local people were Sikhs was because you never ventured out beyond the lanes surrounding Hazur Sahib. 99% of Sikhs visiting Hazur Sahib go out and see the city of Nanded.

It's kind of like saying, "the world is becoming Sikh" because you did a sample on the streets outside of the Darbar Sahib.

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On 5/22/2018 at 6:20 PM, Dsinghdp said:

They only focus on the Punjabi Sikhs to keep our numbers low. When i went to Hazur Sahib i noticed how many Sikhs there are.

There are about 10,000 Sikhs in Nanded, out of a population of a half million.

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On 5/22/2018 at 6:39 PM, monatosingh said:

Does that take into count of particular groups who are seen as Sikhs by other people, but have actually been excommunicated? (Akal Takth specifically mentions what it needs to be a Sikh)

Like followers of Ram Rai or Suraj Mal? Highly insignificant.

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I highly doubt this is true. Joshua Project which is hellbent on converting all of India to Christianity at least has a good measure on statistics and according to them there are only 19,000 Sikh Sikligars. Even if we counted in the Hindu Sikligars, the total amounts to only 99,000 or 1 Lakh. This is nowhere near the numbers this individual is claiming. 

However I do agree with the premise that the government does glaze over certain Sikhs and labels them as Hindus as well as non-Punjabi Sikhs being unsure of their religious identity, Sindhis being a good example of this. 

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