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Anyone notice a strange pattern emerging near to both Seven Kings Gurdwaras. 

The karamsar Gurdwara has a rather big rectangular building on the right side that has muslims doing some prayers or studies there. It is not a mosque. But seems like they are hiring rooms out there with probably an intention of converting it into a mosque although probably difficult to get planning permission. Not sure why they chose right next to the Gurdwara. 

Then you have the other Seven Kings Gurdwara further down, The older built one. Here it is the same thing. Directly opposite a community type building where I have seen muslims with tradional skul cap ect going in and out. Using it as  prayer room of some sort. 

Not sure why Muslims are chosing buildings so close to Gurdwaras. Maybe they think they will be safer nearer a Gurdwara or its for some other reason. 

 

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3 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Anyone notice a strange pattern emerging near to both Seven Kings Gurdwaras. 

The karamsar Gurdwara has a rather big rectangular building on the right side that has muslims doing some prayers of studies there. It is not a mosque. But seems like they are hiring rooms out there with probably an intention of converting it into a mosque. Not sure why they chose right next to the Gurdwara. 

Then you have the other Seven Kings Gurdwara further down, The older built one. Here it is the same thing. Directly opposite a community type building where I have seen muslims with tradional skul cap ect going in and out. Using it as  prayer room of some sort. 

Not sure why Muslims are chosing buildings so close to Gurdwaras. Maybe they think they will be safer nearer a Gurdwara or its for some other reason. 

 

same thing with leytonstone gurdwara on Francis Road there was a church then gurdwara was bought and rebuilt , now the shop across the way has been converted to a makeshift mosque , and they are not friendly at all to sangat who park near their gaff

I suspect it is to have access to youngsters to brainwash , and to intimidate elders

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6 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

same thing with leytonstone gurdwara on Francis Road there was a church then gurdwara was bought and rebuilt , now the shop across the way has been converted to a makeshift mosque , and they are not friendly at all to sangat who park near their gaff

I suspect it is to have access to youngsters to brainwash , and to intimidate elders

I actually use to live in leytonstone many years ago for a short period. I always wondered if there was a gurdwara there. But did not come across one. I noticed there were many small old style churches dotted around everywhere even in residential streets. Did not come across many Sikhs there either apart from a few here and there. Seemed like a strange place as hardly no sangat at all. 

That is unfortunate to hear as it ia the only gurdwara in Leytonstone I think. Leytonstone from what I recall was a mostly muslim and white area. Maybe it is jealousy as we took over the Church. Which they see as people of the book.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Anyone notice a strange pattern emerging near to both Seven Kings Gurdwaras. 

The karamsar Gurdwara has a rather big rectangular building on the right side that has muslims doing some prayers or studies there. It is not a mosque. But seems like they are hiring rooms out there with probably an intention of converting it into a mosque although probably difficult to get planning permission. Not sure why they chose right next to the Gurdwara. 

Then you have the other Seven Kings Gurdwara further down, The older built one. Here it is the same thing. Directly opposite a community type building where I have seen muslims with tradional skul cap ect going in and out. Using it as  prayer room of some sort. 

Not sure why Muslims are chosing buildings so close to Gurdwaras. Maybe they think they will be safer nearer a Gurdwara or its for some other reason. 

 

What makes you think they want to convert it into a mosque? 

And if the building is is owned by the community then how can they ever take control of it? 

I think you may be a bit paranoid possibly? 

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7 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

same thing with leytonstone gurdwara on Francis Road there was a church then gurdwara was bought and rebuilt , now the shop across the way has been converted to a makeshift mosque , and they are not friendly at all to sangat who park near their gaff

I suspect it is to have access to youngsters to brainwash , and to intimidate elders

It's a bit of a leap of imagination don't you think? 

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1 hour ago, Big_Tera said:

I actually use to live in leytonstone many years ago for a short period. I always wondered if there was a gurdwara there. But did not come across one. I noticed there were many small old style churches dotted around everywhere even in residential streets. Did not come across many Sikhs there either apart from a few here and there. Seemed like a strange place as hardly no sangat at all. 

That is unfortunate to hear as it ia the only gurdwara in Leytonstone I think. Leytonstone from what I recall was a mostly muslim and white area. Maybe it is jealousy as we took over the Church. Which they see as people of the book.

 

 

I don't think it was a church but the attached school building that was purchased to make the gurdwara and it is definitely in one of the residential streets its terraced houses ...when I was young it was mainly a white/black area with a few sikhs parivars dotted about I think a lot of them were low key . The church is still functioning next door ...so no we haven't destroyed to make our place of worship. This making of secret shop mosques and madrasas/schools is common in ilford , they also have mosques in homes so you have loads of nondescript places housing  islamic places of preaching, beside the steady number of takeaways/restaurants being taken over by halal chicken/burger/kebab joints it gets to a point that no nonhalal options remain.

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27 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

I don't think it was a church but the attached school building that was purchased to make the gurdwara and it is definitely in one of the residential streets its terraced houses ...when I was young it was mainly a white/black area with a few sikhs parivars dotted about I think a lot of them were low key . The church is still functioning next door ...so no we haven't destroyed to make our place of worship. This making of secret shop mosques and madrasas/schools is common in ilford , they also have mosques in homes so you have loads of nondescript places housing  islamic places of preaching, beside the steady number of takeaways/restaurants being taken over by halal chicken/burger/kebab joints it gets to a point that no nonhalal options remain.

Oh rite did not know that was the case. Yep leyton/leytonstone mostly white, black and muslim area. Same as Walthamstow. Although theres quite a few Hindus. 

Make shift mosques and madrasas. I bet alot of these are run illegally. They will turn practically any room into a prayer area. ie office ect. 

We all know what happens in these places. Probably trying to recruit for isis. 

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4 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Does anyone else ever get the feeling that there are a lot of islamaphobes on this site? 

Well look at our history. 

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2 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Well look at our history. 

never realised noting your environment is being islamphobic  , it is basic rule of street smarts . I grew up in a council estate so noted the day to day fluctuations of intakes of different communities , druggies, skins etc just so I knew how to handle myself travelling alone to and from school/work. you can go back to sleep Sukh if you want.

The fact that we are told never to eat halal meat is also a reason to note places where you can safely eat ....but you carry on with your labelling

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6 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Oh rite did not know that was the case. Yep leyton/leytonstone mostly white, black and muslim area. Same as Walthamstow. Although theres quite a few Hindus. 

Make shift mosques and madrasas. I bet alot of these are run illegally. They will turn practically any room into a prayer area. ie office ect. 

We all know what happens in these places. Probably trying to recruit for isis. 

you buy enough halal goat meat to fund the whole of is and al queda LOL... salah soorh

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1 hour ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

you buy enough halal goat meat to fund the whole of is and al queda LOL... salah soorh

bro what is your problem ? every thread can't turn into the rocky and bullwinkle show ...

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7 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

bro what is your problem ? every thread can't turn into the rocky and bullwinkle show ...

my problem is big tedh and the b.s. he chats

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1 hour ago, Prokharkoo84 said:

my problem is big tedh and the b.s. he chats

yeah well I think everyone's noticed now your strange obsession with him by now , if you believe appe beej appe hi kao  leave him to it  and get on with your mission

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

yeah well I think everyone's noticed now your strange obsession with him by now , if you believe appe beej appe hi kao  leave him to it  and get on with your mission

aint no obsession and the only thing strange is that you have somehow got yourself into something that doesnt concern you. Anway my concern is that being fairly new to sikhi, i came to this forum to learn (the whole point of being a sikh) and not see some bandhar hype about goat meat, or how he messed a girl around from punjab along with his other b.s. JKV - u seem to preach like your always right, do you think it is right for someone to show off about these things on a sikhi forum? Yeah i agree i may not always be P.C, and i can only do ardas to maharaj for a jeevan where this changes.

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