We as Sikhs are meant to stand out from the crowd.

[BhForce]

On 10/24/2018 at 4:50 AM, mahandulai said:

outdate views it is then. u haven't met anyone like me in your whole life.

You're full of ego. An egotist can never understand God or spirituality.

You think that you're invincible. 

One day, you're going to die, and be presented in the Court of the Dharam Raj.

And you'll have nothing to say for yourself. Just a useless life of poking fun at the Guru and his saints.

ਆਪੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ਭੋਗ ਭੋਗਿ ਕੈ ਹੋਇ ਭਸਮੜਿ ਭਉਰੁ ਸਿਧਾਇਆ ॥

Aapeenhai Bhog Bhog Kai Hoe Bhasamarr Bhour Sidhhaaeiaa ||

Enjoying his pleasures, one is reduced to a pile of ashes, and the soul passes away.

ਵਡਾ ਹੋਆ ਦੁਨੀਦਾਰੁ ਗਲਿ ਸੰਗਲੁ ਘਤਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ॥

Vaddaa Hoaa Dhuneedhaar Gal Sangal Ghath Chalaaeiaa ||

He may be great, but when he dies, the chain is thrown around his neck, and he is led away.

ਅਗੈ ਕਰਣੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਵਾਚੀਐ ਬਹਿ ਲੇਖਾ ਕਰਿ ਸਮਝਾਇਆ ॥

Agai Karanee Keerath Vaacheeai Behi Laekhaa Kar Samajhaaeiaa ||

There, his good and bad deeds are added up; sitting there, his account is read.

ਥਾਉ ਨ ਹੋਵੀ ਪਉਦੀਈ ਹੁਣਿ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਕਿਆ ਰੂਆਇਆ ॥

Thhaao N Hovee Poudheeee Hun Suneeai Kiaa Rooaaeiaa ||

He is whipped, but finds no place of rest, and no one hears his cries of pain.

ਮਨਿ ਅੰਧੈ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥੩॥

Man Andhhai Janam Gavaaeiaa ||3||

The blind man has wasted his life away. ||3||

ਆਸਾ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੧) ੩:੫ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੪੬੪ ਪੰ. ੧੨ 
Raag Asa Guru Nanak Dev

 

 

[BhForce]

15 hours ago, mahandulai said:

Page 599, Line 2
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਏਕ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਮੋਈ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥
गुरमुखि एक द्रिसटि करि देखहु घटि घटि जोति समोई जीउ ॥२॥
Gurmukẖ ek ḏarisat kar ḏekẖhu gẖat gẖat joṯ samo▫ī jī▫o. ||2||
As Gurmukh, look upon all with the single eye of equality; in each and every heart, the Divine Light is contained. ||2||
Guru Nanak Dev   -  view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

What are you even trying to say?

Do you have a functioning level of intellect or reasoning?

The line about ਚਾਲਾ ਨਿਰਾਲੀ ਭਗਤਾਹ ਕੇਰੀ ਬਿਖਮ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਚਲਣਾ ॥ is referring to devotees living a distinct lifestyle.

That should be obvious: if you're going to live exactly as everyone else, what is the need for Gurbani in the first place?

The line you quoted has nothing to do with that. This line is saying to view everyone equally. 

It does not say live like everyone else, including boozing, womanizing, doing drugs, lying, cheating, stealing, etc.

 

[mahandulai]

On 10/26/2018 at 1:37 PM, jkvlondon said:

simple answer no

but u dont want gurbani quotes for that,

hypocrite

[mahandulai]

11 hours ago, BhForce said:

You read a line or two, and you think you know what Gurbani is saying?

The fact is, Gurbani says the vast majority of people are not distinct in the way that matters.

Here, I'll give you a line, for free, that you might think supports you:

ਮੇਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਸਾਚੈ ਇਕੁ ਖੇਲੁ ਰਚਾਇਆ ॥

Maerai Prabh Saachai Eik Khael Rachaaeiaa ||

My True Lord God has staged a play.

ਕੋਇ ਨ ਕਿਸ ਹੀ ਜੇਹਾ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥

Koe N Kis Hee Jaehaa Oupaaeiaa ||

He has created no one like anyone else.

ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ (ਮਃ ੩) (੧੩) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੦੫੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
Raag Maaroo Guru Amar Das

That, however, is not referring to lifestyle. Regarding that, Gurbani says:

ਫਰੀਦਾ ਦੁਨੀ ਵਜਾਈ ਵਜਦੀ ਤੂੰ ਭੀ ਵਜਹਿ ਨਾਲਿ ॥

Fareedhaa Dhunee Vajaaee Vajadhee Thoon Bhee Vajehi Naal ||

Fareed, the world dances as it dances, and you dance with it as well.

ਸੋਈ ਜੀਉ ਨ ਵਜਦਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਅਲਹੁ ਕਰਦਾ ਸਾਰ ॥੧੧੦॥

Soee Jeeo N Vajadhaa Jis Alahu Karadhaa Saar ||110||

That soul alone does not dance with it, who is under the care of the Lord God. ||110||

ਸਲੋਕ ਫਰੀਦ ਜੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧੦):੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੩੮੩ ਪੰ. ੧੮ 
Salok Baba Sheikh Farid

Gurbani states that the vast majority of the world are manmukhs, only a few are Gurmukhs:

ਹੈਨਿ ਵਿਰਲੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਘਣੇ ਫੈਲ ਫਕੜੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ॥੧੨॥

Hain Viralae Naahee Ghanae Fail Fakarr Sansaar ||12||

The Saints are few and far between; everything else in the world is just a pompous show. ||12||

ਸਲੋਕ ਵਾਰਾਂ ਤੇ ਵਧੀਕ (ਮਃ ੧) (੧੨):੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੪੧੧ ਪੰ. ੯ 
Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek Guru Nanak Dev

 

nope, ur forcing ur interpretation here, 

try again!

[mahandulai]

11 hours ago, BhForce said:

You're full of ego. An egotist can never understand God or spirituality.

You think that you're invincible. 

One day, you're going to die, and be presented in the Court of the Dharam Raj.

And you'll have nothing to say for yourself. Just a useless life of poking fun at the Guru and his saints.

ਆਪੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ਭੋਗ ਭੋਗਿ ਕੈ ਹੋਇ ਭਸਮੜਿ ਭਉਰੁ ਸਿਧਾਇਆ ॥

Aapeenhai Bhog Bhog Kai Hoe Bhasamarr Bhour Sidhhaaeiaa ||

Enjoying his pleasures, one is reduced to a pile of ashes, and the soul passes away.

ਵਡਾ ਹੋਆ ਦੁਨੀਦਾਰੁ ਗਲਿ ਸੰਗਲੁ ਘਤਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ॥

Vaddaa Hoaa Dhuneedhaar Gal Sangal Ghath Chalaaeiaa ||

He may be great, but when he dies, the chain is thrown around his neck, and he is led away.

ਅਗੈ ਕਰਣੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਵਾਚੀਐ ਬਹਿ ਲੇਖਾ ਕਰਿ ਸਮਝਾਇਆ ॥

Agai Karanee Keerath Vaacheeai Behi Laekhaa Kar Samajhaaeiaa ||

There, his good and bad deeds are added up; sitting there, his account is read.

ਥਾਉ ਨ ਹੋਵੀ ਪਉਦੀਈ ਹੁਣਿ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਕਿਆ ਰੂਆਇਆ ॥

Thhaao N Hovee Poudheeee Hun Suneeai Kiaa Rooaaeiaa ||

He is whipped, but finds no place of rest, and no one hears his cries of pain.

ਮਨਿ ਅੰਧੈ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥੩॥

Man Andhhai Janam Gavaaeiaa ||3||

The blind man has wasted his life away. ||3||

ਆਸਾ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੧) ੩:੫ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੪੬੪ ਪੰ. ੧੨ 
Raag Asa Guru Nanak Dev

 

 

no ego here, just me and my laptop, and i am full of .... lentils atm, later i will be full of ... yoghurt (strawberry)

[mahandulai]

11 hours ago, BhForce said:

What are you even trying to say?

Do you have a functioning level of intellect or reasoning?

The line about ਚਾਲਾ ਨਿਰਾਲੀ ਭਗਤਾਹ ਕੇਰੀ ਬਿਖਮ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਚਲਣਾ ॥ is referring to devotees living a distinct lifestyle.

That should be obvious: if you're going to live exactly as everyone else, what is the need for Gurbani in the first place?

The line you quoted has nothing to do with that. This line is saying to view everyone equally. 

It does not say live like everyone else, including boozing, womanizing, doing drugs, lying, cheating, stealing, etc.

 

no, what it is exactly saying, is, the life of a saint, is the same as the life of a 'boozer, and stealer' to be exact,

add that to your repertoire.

[jkvlondon]

8 minutes ago, mahandulai said:

no, what it is exactly saying, is, the life of a saint, is the same as the life of a 'boozer, and stealer' to be exact,

add that to your repertoire.

kid , take your meds because you are not making any sense ...

[mahandulai]

4 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

kid , take your meds because you are not making any sense ...

only if u prescribe me

[mahandulai]

13 minutes ago, mahandulai said:

no, what it is exactly saying, is, the life of a saint, is the same as the life of a 'boozer, and stealer' to be exact,

add that to your repertoire.

but yes, this is important ....!

[intrigued]

On 10/22/2018 at 1:41 PM, jkvlondon said:

then how do we have purtaan artworks showing the same and sakhi of our bibian meeting begums of mughals and they are described as dressed as men in full amour with shastar bastar?

I would love to see some accounts and paintings of this ji