Saudi teen who left Islam and escaped Saudi Arabia

[puzzled]

Brave Saudi teen who left Islam and escaped the country. She travelled to Kuwait, got tickets and flew to Thailand, nearly got sent back by the Saudi authorities in Thailand after they locked her in a hotel room, but she managed to spread her story on social media before the Saudi authorities could send her back to her country, the West stepped in and now she is safe in Canada. 

 

[puzzled]

Another brave guy. That country sounds like prison. 

 

[MisterrSingh]

Regardless of opinions on Islam, her family must be distraught and so utterly embarrassed. It's behsti, but not in an honour-killing sense, but more along the lines of their daughter becoming this huge sideshow in the West on account of fleeing the country and her faith. I'd assumed the Western media would play it down in order not to incite and upset the growing Muslim population, but they really seem to be hammering this story, lol. Surprising.

[dallysingh101]

8 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Regardless of opinions on Islam, her family must be distraught and so utterly embarrassed. It's behsti, but not in an honour-killing sense, but more along the lines of their daughter becoming this huge sideshow in the West on account of fleeing the country and her faith. I'd assumed the Western media would play it down in order not to incite and upset the growing Muslim population, but they really seem to be hammering this story, lol. Surprising.

No different and actually a lot less sinister than converting a bunch of people on some stage in front of  a whooping, baying crowd like some others do. 

How is this any different to say some Muslims making a youvideo parading a gori convert in a hijab? 

[Guest]

That country , Saudi Arabia has some interesting fact hidden from most.

Its a country whose political leadership comes from al-saud family and religious leadership comes from al-ash-sheikh family . 

I was reading on wikipedia abt it . Apparently its a 300 yr old agreement that al-sauds will support and implement conservative islam policies and sharia as required by al-ash sheikh family , and in return al-sheikhs will support legitimacy of al-sauds to rule that region. The two families have maintained this harmony till now , and have strong inter-marriage.

Although in recent years , (as it usually happens) the political leaders overthrow the religious leaders or try to appropriate religious leadership for their (political leaders) own self-interests.

Sounds familiar ?!!

Shromani Akali dal was founded as the political arm of SGPC. But today SAD run by one greedy family is pwning SGPC. 

[MisterrSingh]

24 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

No different and actually a lot less sinister than converting a bunch of people on some stage in front of  a whooping, baying crowd like some others do. 

How is this any different to say some Muslims making a youvideo parading a gori convert in a hijab? 

Occasionally I get the sense the western media seems reluctant to rub Muslim noses into their various hypocrisies, almost like they're protecting a potential persecuted minority (yeah right) in that typically egotistical, white liberal way, or they're just plain scared of being Charlie Hebdo'd.

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Occasionally I get the sense the western media seems reluctant to rub Muslim noses into their various hypocrisies, almost like they're protecting a potential persecuted minority (yeah right) in that typically egotistical, white liberal way, or they're just plain scared of being Charlie Hebdo'd.

I think you're right on both counts. 

Plus remember sullay have a lot of dirt on goray too.  If one says Rotherham, the other replies Saville. If one points out Islamic looting and pillaging, the other can point at slavery and other darker episodes of empire. 

And look how this feeds into our own endeavours to try and highlight the mass abuse of vulnerable females in our own community. 

[MisterrSingh]

30 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think you're right on both counts. 

Plus remember sullay have a lot of dirt on goray too.  If one says Rotherham, the other replies Saville. If one points out Islamic looting and pillaging, the other can point at slavery and other darker episodes of empire. 

And look how this feeds into our own endeavours to try and highlight the mass abuse of vulnerable females in our own community. 

In that particular exchange, whites have placed themselves in a disadvantageous situation -- on the backfoot I guess -- owing to certain factions within their own society who possess a suicidal altruism that refuses to acknowledge the Other could possibly ever have less than honest intentions. Couple that with a fatal desire to live up to the white saviour complex, they're staring down the barrel of a rather dark future for themselves, and still they refuse to acknowledge that they might be seriously mistaken this time around.

Muslims (in terms of their populations that reside in foreign countries), by and large, know when to close ranks for a common cause. Even the lapsed and non-believers possess a vague sense of loyalty and belonging to Islam, even for appearance's sake in the most superficial or cultural sense, for the sake of the collective, whereas whites are all too eager to express their individuality and impartiality even at the expense of their own people and prospects.

The moral and intellectual vanity of the "educated" white will prove to be its undoing. They have been brainwashed into working against their own interests. It's fascinating how it's been done over such a relatively short period of time. Objectively, for us brownies in the West, the coming decades will prove to be some of the most fruitful if the right opportunities are taken. Everything is literally up for grabs. 

[jkvlondon]

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Occasionally I get the sense the western media seems reluctant to rub Muslim noses into their various hypocrisies, almost like they're protecting a potential persecuted minority (yeah right) in that typically egotistical, white liberal way, or they're just plain scared of being Charlie Hebdo'd.

nah it's about losing out on mega bucks in trade especially luxury  items such as technology, jewllery, gold, art,  and arms

[dallysingh101]

26 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

nah it's about losing out on mega bucks in trade especially luxury  items such as technology, jewllery, gold, art,  and arms

This is true too. 

I think it's a complex nexus of issues, including all of what we have mentioned above. It's not some simple binary thing, very little if anything is maybe?