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1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

But we can't hide our historical granths

I fully agree, but we have to warn readers about potential abuse. It's not like we don't have issues with 'chitta' being thrown over the border back home. 

And I'd put Sikh texts above european ones, who may be exaggerating a bit, or only putting a focus on fighters (due to the threat to themselves). 

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If your great grandfathers is from Punjab they used opium. Each and every household in Punjab till early 1900s had opium in their kitchen. Dont believe me just call the oldest person alive in your fam

http://jhatkamaryada.com/2017/04/24/akali-nihang-bola/ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਜੀ ਕਹੈ ਪਾਰਵਤੀ ਕੋ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਨਾ ਦੇਹ ਗ੍ਵਾਰਣ ਕੌ, ਸਾਧ ਸ਼ਕੇ ਜਪ ਚਿੱਤ ਲਾਇ ਹਰੀ ਕਾ ਨਾਮ ਉਚਾਰਨ ਕੋ ਸੂਰਮਾ ਸ਼ਕੇ ਰਣ ਜੁੱਧ ਕਰੈ ਹਾਥੀ ਕਾ ਸੀਸ ਉਤਾਰਣ ਕੋ, ਮੂਰ

On Hola, Singhs get tyar bar tyar with shastars and show their shatarvidya skills to the Guru. Singhs used to hv Shaheedi degh on Hola.  So yes Shaheedi degh helps in shastarvidya. ਰਿਤੁ

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7 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

It would be nice if you found the original text for that. 

Macauliffe sort of slated Kavi Santokh SIngh because of his alleged use of bhang:

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There is still puratan afeem di dabbi at hazur Sahib.its of gold with moti covering.according to hazuri Singhs dabbi belongs to Dasmesh pita

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My nana employed a worker from Bihar who became addicted to afeem and helped him get off it. He said it wasn't a pretty sight. He had to lock him up in room for a while until he dried out. 

 

I know a few desi guys on building sites use it regularly too. It's potentially dangerous stuff.

 

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3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

My nana employed a worker from Bihar who became addicted to afeem and helped him get off it. He said it wasn't a pretty sight. He had to lock him up in room for a while until he dried out. 

 

I know a few desi guys on building sites use it regularly too. It's potentially dangerous stuff.

 

In dal panth it is said that opium helps bihangam nihangs to keep jat da pehra (celibacy).

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10 hours ago, shastarSingh said:
10 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Dude, you're posting most of them. 

I hope you know that some silly apnay will use this as justification for recreational drug use brother. 

But we can't hide our historical granths

These granths are not Gurbani, bro.

You realize that, don't you? 

They're just written by humans. What do you think, they descended from heaven?

 

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On 9/23/2019 at 7:13 PM, dallysingh101 said:

It would be nice if you found the original text for that. 

Macauliffe sort of slated Kavi Santokh SIngh because of his alleged use of bhang:

56c34a9261f10_macauliffeonsantokhsinghpn

I wonder if its a good idea that we should believe drug induced poets when retelling our history. Santokh Singh has basically made our Guru and his followers into drug abusers.  Opium is probably one of the worst drugs for addiction and we are supposed to believe that our Dashmesh Pitha was a user. Some of the comments on here are hugely disturbing, the way people so eagerly believe if Nihangs do it then its ok ?  Have you spoken to Nihangs when intoxicated, they are so far removed from Sikhi its unbelievable. I think its about time we boycotted so called Granth's that are anathema to our Guru Granth Sahib.  

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