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I have felt fascinated with them since about 2-3 years now. I have a pdf of 10 mukhya upanishads. I read it sometimes. Its english translation because I don't know sanskrit.

Upanishads are basically vedant (ved + ant(ending)) .They're the conclusion portions of the vedas . As vedas were revealed over a span of hundreds of years, the initial mantras mostly focused on worship of the natural forces and phenomenon like Fire, Earth, Wind, Skies, etc , but over the span as the society developed, rishis realized the god underlying all these forces is one. They called it Parbrahm . Its the only god we sikhs worship as 'waheguru' . 

Anyways, the point is yes they're riddlesome books of fine wisdom and philosophy. The one you're reading Isha Upanishad is still simpler to understand for layman. If you were to pick up Brihadaranyaka (great forest) Upanishad, it will surely give you a headspin, because it has so many riddlish allegories in it. Although commentaries are available of the same. 

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I'm reading the one with yamraj/dharamraj and the boy who ends up in yamrajs abode while yamraj is away for 3 days.   Yamraj then apologizes for not serving his guest for 3 days.  Some parts of this katha are very haunting     its basically a convo with death.   Yamraj offers the boy women, wealth, land  as a gift for  not being able to serve the boy while he was away from his abode  and the boy says what use are these things when I'm standing here looking at death in the face.   

 

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13 hours ago, puzzled said:

I'm reading the one with yamraj/dharamraj and the boy who ends up in yamrajs abode while yamraj is away for 3 days.   Yamraj then apologizes for not serving his guest for 3 days.  Some parts of this katha are very haunting     its basically a convo with death.   Yamraj offers the boy women, wealth, land  as a gift for  not being able to serve the boy while he was away from his abode  and the boy says what use are these things when I'm standing here looking at death in the face.   

 

The story of nachiketa and Yam. 

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3 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

You should. 

Also read Quran. I found it mostly beautiful message of God, just like upanishads

I read the Koran years ago. I didn't see it remotely like you. Having nice verses, which are then followed by blindly violent commands against kafirs, jews and whatnot doesn't cut it in my eyes. Also all that stuff about sex slaves - which explains a lot about the perversions we see in their diasporic communities. 

I like their attitudes towards gays though.......

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I read the Koran years ago. I didn't see it remotely like you. Having nice verses, which are then followed by blindly violent commands against kafirs, jews and whatnot doesn't cut it in my eyes. Also all that stuff about sex slaves - which explains a lot about the perversions we see in their diasporic communities. 

I like their attitudes towards gays though.......

The problem is you started with typical Islam and Muslim hatred that runs in Sikh families.

You didn't like Quran because you read it shallow, not much different than how isis or fanatic mullahs read it.

It doesn't hv violent verses. It originated at a time of chaos and fighting in Arabia . So waheguru told prophet that he should wage a war against the violent disbelievers who hurt prophet. 

Overtime however ppl like u only saw violence in it. 

Remember Quran and Sggs and Vedas have same author, that one almighty.

 

You like fanatic mullahs opinion on gays ? Dude ur sick.  

 

 

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7 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

The problem is you started with typical Islam and Muslim hatred that runs in Sikh families.

You didn't like Quran because you read it shallow, not much different than how isis or fanatic mullahs read it.

It doesn't hv violent verses. It originated at a time of chaos and fighting in Arabia . So waheguru told prophet that he should wage a war against the violent disbelievers who hurt prophet. 

Overtime however ppl like u only saw violence in it. 

Remember Quran and Sggs and Vedas have same author, that one almighty.

 

You like fanatic mullahs opinion on gays ? Dude ur sick.  

 

 

You're a plank. You like to pick and chose and not see the woods for the trees. 

You'd be thrown off a building. lol

 

And read Bachiter Natak. It'll tell you exactly what dasmesh pita's position on the pegamber is. 

 

No, not every muslim is bad, far from it. Also, not every apna is an angel. That doesn't mean I have to idealise another 'religion' on some politically correct basis. 

 

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19 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Always wanted to read these. 

Read  them    its ancient wisdom    it talks about there being one god in everyone,  but at the same time there is some stuff that is against gurmat      like dharamraj tells the boy that to be immortal that he needs to perform and sacrifice etc      

I read the quran  and didnt learn anything     a lot of hate.   hadiths are very sexual     like there is one hadith talking about fingering your wife 

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11 hours ago, puzzled said:

like dharamraj tells the boy that to be immortal that he needs to perform and sacrifice etc      

You're reading it wrong. Sacrifice not external, but internal . Upanishads don't focus on the rituals, they are philosophies of inner world. The external rituals are in the section of books of vedas called "brahmanas" . Vedas have four layers : Samhita , Brahmana, Aranyaka, Upanishad.

11 hours ago, puzzled said:

I read the quran  and didnt learn anything     a lot of hate.   hadiths are very sexual     like there is one hadith talking about fingering your wife 

First of all hadiths are sayings of the prophet compiled together by his companions , called as "sahabas" . And secondly, in muslim world itself, there's lot of controversy over which hadith is real and which is fake. Having said that , I am not saying that muhammad was a man without his own shortcomings. But in Quran itself, you wouldn't find much hatred unless you ,like jihadis , interpret it out of context. There're lot of beautiful teachings in quran sharif too about compassion, gratitude (surah Rehman if you read). The thing is it was revealed to the barbaric tribes of arabia and hence had to be a little stern in its teachings. Why do you people forget that ? scriptures are not revealed in a vacuum. 

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15 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

You're a plank. You like to pick and chose and not see the woods for the trees. 

You'd be thrown off a building. lol

 

And read Bachiter Natak. It'll tell you exactly what dasmesh pita's position on the pegamber is. 

 

No, not every muslim is bad, far from it. Also, not every apna is an angel. That doesn't mean I have to idealise another 'religion' on some politically correct basis. 

 

I have read bachiter natak bro. I remember the lines guru sahib used for prophet while he narrated past men of religion. 

But I am saying, guru sahib never disrespected quran itself. Infact in his baani, you find many islamic vocabulary words. 

In Jaap sahib itself , there are many arabic/persian words and islamic names of god . "Ki zaahar zahoor hai, ki haazar hazoor hai ." , "karimul kamaal hai , ki husnal jamaal hai" 

Guru Granth sahib which is considered infallible among sikhs says following for vedas and katebas (plural of 'kitab' , any of the abrahamic religious books) 

ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥
Beḏ kaṯeb kahhu maṯ jẖūṯẖe jẖūṯẖā jo na bicẖārai.
Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false.

 

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17 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

The problem is you started with typical Islam and Muslim hatred that runs in Sikh families.

You didn't like Quran because you read it shallow, not much different than how isis or fanatic mullahs read it.

It doesn't hv violent verses. It originated at a time of chaos and fighting in Arabia . So waheguru told prophet that he should wage a war against the violent disbelievers who hurt prophet. 

Overtime however ppl like u only saw violence in it. 

Remember Quran and Sggs and Vedas have same author, that one almighty.

 

You like fanatic mullahs opinion on gays ? Dude ur sick.  

 

 

Bro you clearly didn't read the Quaran. 

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