Gurdwara attacked 30+ Afghan sikhs genocided murdered by ISIS sunni salafi terrorists

[JSinghnz]

How incredulous is that instead of showing sympathy for the victims and suggesting ways to alleviate the suffering of the survivors and families some posters are just writing cr@p here, making them a laughing stock of people who would be  reading the main website of the Sikhs.

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7 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

 

Interesting fact about Goa is that the southern part of Goa is predominantly Christian, the northern parts are still mainly Hindu.

There are mandirs which are of Portuguese design but you notice that there are sarovars of a much older design. 

It seems quite obvious that the original temples were demolished and rebuilt .

The Portuguese like the Spaniards were under muslim rule for centuries and it seems quite apparent they picked up a few things from them.

I remember watching a video of a Afghan sikh and he said that the Taliban made them wear yellow stars so that they could be identified as non muslims, this is the exact same thing the nazis made the Jews do

These 3 religions use the same things 

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Most these things can be found in jewish history, they used to stone people etc   then the Christians adopted the same thing and then later the muslims. 

Though jews have been keeping it low key since ww2 .... 

[Ranjeet01]

4 minutes ago, puzzled said:

I remember watching a video of a Afghan sikh and he said that the Taliban made them wear yellow stars so that they could be identified as non muslims, this is the exact same thing the nazis made the Jews do

These 3 religions use the same things 

There are claims that Sikhs were treated quite well under the Taliban.

I don't know how much of this true but it also when many Afghan Sikhs moved enmasse to the UK.

Apparently Sikhs fared quite badly between the time Soviets left Afghanistan and Taliban came to power when there were warlords. 

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17 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There are claims that Sikhs were treated quite well under the Taliban.

I don't know how much of this true but it also when many Afghan Sikhs moved enmasse to the UK.

Apparently Sikhs fared quite badly between the time Soviets left Afghanistan and Taliban came to power when there were warlords. 

The guy I knew told me it was Taliban that ruined everything   he called them pench*ds  lol

He said most them owned businesses and were well off   but they were still treated like crap by the muslims 

But I too have heard that their situation was a bit better when taliban was around. Like every community I guess there was political differences among them aswell ... 

[dallysingh101]

4 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There are claims that Sikhs were treated quite well under the Taliban.

I don't know how much of this true but it also when many Afghan Sikhs moved enmasse to the UK.

Apparently Sikhs fared quite badly between the time Soviets left Afghanistan and Taliban came to power when there were warlords. 

I heard that Mullah Omar gave Sikhs protected status and they were unmolested under his tenure. They actually prospered through supplying cloth. When he had to go underground  after the US invasion (post 911) things changed for Sikhs. A lot of the foreign jihadists that came to the region were (predictably) hardcore  anti-'kuffar'. 

Mullah Omar actually came to power by taking on the warlords that emerged after the Soviet withdrawal. He hung some of the rapist ones from tank turrets and became a folk hero for bringing some form of stability and protection for common people against the warlords (who were having a free for all with the females - and probably boys too?) After he went underground, the new outfit had Sikhs wearing yellow labels to mark them out and abuses increased. 

Sikhs there need to go to India as refugees or something maybe? I understand that they don't want to leave the Gurdwaras but maybe it would be prudent to vacate and let the region stabilise? I mean it's not like our ancestors didn't do this with Amritsar. Other than that, they should have armed, trained sangat at Gurdwaras during large scale gatherings. That way, they could limit the damage maybe. But there isn't much they can do against mobile IEDs though.

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I dont know many afghan sikhs  I get my laptop and phone fixed from one   but iv never asked about the situation there, its tricky to ask stuff like that! 

The little I know was from 1 that I worked with. 

[genie]

8 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There are claims that Sikhs were treated quite well under the Taliban.

I don't know how much of this true but it also when many Afghan Sikhs moved enmasse to the UK.

Apparently Sikhs fared quite badly between the time Soviets left Afghanistan and Taliban came to power when there were warlords. 

The Afghan Sikhs prospered the most from 1940s to 1980s when the soviets came the Sikhs were left alone to do their trader businesses and shopkeeping. When the american CIA, british MI6, mossad and various islamic jihadi terrorist groups united to fight the soviet union then all afghans were seen as legitimate target by all sides. During the late 80s to early 90s after the waring mujahadeen had taken over afghanistan they decided to fight each other for power and it was that time Sikhs were deliberately targetted with over 8 beautiful huge afghan gurdwara's destroyed. It was then many Afghan Sikhs left on mass from afghanistan to the west, pakistan and india.

When the pakistani isi created taliban arrived they modeled them on the characteristics of the Sikhs so impressed where they by Sikh soldiers fighting spirit in wars with india. The taliban wanted their strict version of islamic rule imposed all over afghanistan and did managed to establish it from 1996 to 2001. The taliban viewed Sikhs and all other minorities as 2nd class citizens but treated them accordance to the quran and sunnah so they were left alone to do their business and run their daily lives as long as they didnt convert muslims to their religion, they didnt practise their faith openly but behind closed doors, women had to be covered in a burka head to toe with no face shown, men had to wear yellow patches to indicate they were non-muslims so that according to the taliban they would not harrass the Sikhs,hindus when it came to prayer times and not force them into masjids to pray. The Sikhs lived a much imprisoned oppressed life regularly mocked for being kafir sikhs and discriminated but had a sense of security that if they had problems with muslim zealots they could get senior taliban officials to help smooth things out.

under taliban shariah islamic rule the Sikhs lives were cheap so if a muslim killed a sikh there wouldn't be much punishment but if the sikh did that to a muslim its torture and death, often afghan Sikh women were sexually exploited and raped. If a muslim warlord wanted a Sikhs house to add to his real estate he could just occupy it and throw the poor afghan Sikhs out which was the story often. So even though taliban claimed Sikhs lived in safety and security in their rule and no harm was done to them that was not the case. The afghan Sikhs were very afraid very vulnerable and life and property was not safeguarded to even basic sharia law standards that the taliban professed to be following as an islamic sharia compliant state.

Punjabi Sikhs have had to face a dark oppressive period in the 80s and early 90s under the brutal Indian regime but they had it slightly easier compared to the oppression in afghanistan islamic sharia hellhole that afghan Sikhs faced and facing in present times.

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3 minutes ago, genie said:

Punjabi Sikhs have had to face a dark oppressive period in the 80s and early 90s under the brutal Indian regime but they had it slightly easier compared to the oppression in afghanistan islamic sharia hellhole that afghan Sikhs faced and facing in present times.

so true! didn't realize that, difference is its still continuing for the afghan sikhs 

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from 2001

Taliban to Enforce Hindu 'Badges'

KABUL, Afghanistan – Afghanistan's Taliban rulers already isolated by their harsh brand of Islam and poor treatment of women announced plans to make Hindus wear an identity label on their clothing to distinguish them from Muslims.

The hardline Taliban regime that controls 95 percent of this poor Central Asian state plans to enforce the new policy soon, Mohammed Wali, religious police minister, told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

The plan still must be approved by the Taliban's reclusive leader Mullah Mohammed Omar.

The law would also make it mandatory for Hindu women to veil themselves just like Muslim women of Afghanistan, Wali said.

 

The proposal reminiscent of the yellow Star of David that Jews were forced to wear in Nazi Germany prompted an angry statement from Hindu-dominated India.

 

"We absolutely deplore such orders which patently discriminate against minorities," Raminder Singh Jassal, an Indian foreign ministry spokesman, told reporters in New Delhi. "It is further evidence of the backward and unacceptable ideological underpinning of the Taliban."

In the central Indian city of Bhopal, dozens of protesters from the Hindu fundamentalist group Bajrang Dal marched Tuesday, shouting angry slogans and carrying an effigy of a Taliban soldier with a beard and a green scarf. "Taliban, die!" some chanted.

 

The National Volunteers Corps, a fundamentalist movement that is the ideological parent of India's ruling Hindu nationalist party, condemned the Taliban.

"It is in line with the Taliban's interpretation of Islam, a religion which divides humanity into two: the believers and the infidels," said Baburao Vaidya, a spokesman for the corps, known by its Hindi acronym RSS.

"We criticize the very fundamentals of Islamic tenets," he told The Associated Press.

 

The decision could further isolate the orthodox Islamic militia, already under fire from the West for alleged discriminatory policies toward ethnic and religious minorities, human rights abuses and poor treatment of women.

In recent years, many Hindus and other members of religious minorities have left Afghanistan because of Taliban policies.

Wali said the latest Taliban move is in line with Islam. "Religious minorities living in an Islamic state must be identified," the minister said.

The Taliban have not yet decided what sort of an identity label Hindus will have to wear, he added.

 

There are at least 5,000 Hindus living in Kabul. Thousands of other Hindus live in other Afghan cities, but there are no reliable figures on exactly how many.

The new law will be meant for only Hindus because there are no Christians or Jews in Afghanistan and Sikhs can be easily recognized by their turbans, Wali said. However, at least one Jew is known to live in the Afghan capital of Kabul and there may also be some Christians.

It was unclear whether foreigners living in Afghanistan would be required to wear the identity label.

 

Anar, an Afghan Hindu in Kabul who uses just one name, said he does not want to wear a label identifying him as Hindu.

"It will make us vulnerable and degrade our position in the society," he said.

But Munawaar Hasan, general secretary of a major Islamic political party in neighboring Pakistan called Jamaat-e-Islami, or Islamic Party, said the move seems aimed to give protection to Hindus.

 

 

"The Taliban should win praise for this step,' he said. "Providing protection to religious minorities is a must in any Islamic country and this step seems in line with this concept."

The Taliban follow a harsh version of Islam that bars women from most jobs and education, and makes it mandatory for men to wear beards and pray five times a day. All forms of light entertainment, including television and music, are outlawed.

The Taliban drew worldwide criticism when in March they destroyed two ancient statues of Buddha in central Bamiyan, calling it their religious duty.

Most of the Islamic world, including pro-Taliban Pakistan, differ with the Taliban regime's narrow interpretation of Islam and say that it is tarnishing Islam's image.

The Taliban face U.N. sanctions for giving protection to Saudi billionaire Osama bin Laden, wanted by Washington for allegedly running a global terrorist network. The Taliban deny the charge and say the United States has no evidence against him.