Can Sikhs be friendly with Muslims?

[jkvlondon]

On 5/27/2020 at 9:19 PM, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

Didn't she also work for Sikh Channel - a Sikhi Prachar channel where so many groups like Basics of Sikhi and Sikh2Inspire talk on? 

sikh channel is a channel that is incidently sikh much like most of these weird coconuts, I mean they give space for gays to preach down to ordinary sikhs from their platform .

[ChardikalaUK]

On 5/27/2020 at 9:42 PM, proactive said:

Interesting question, I think there are a number of reasons for this-;

While Sikhs might be 58% of Punjab population, the percentage in the rural areas are between 70-90%. Thus the rural areas of Punjab are heavily influenced by Sikhism. What little there is of Hinduism in rural Punjab is just small numbers of Brahmin and Khatri Hindu families owning karyana stores in the villages. Even the Hindu lower castes in rural areas are heavily influenced by Sikhism. Because Sikhism is such a big feature of rural Punjab, it faces no challengers. It is noted that countries or areas where a religion enjoys a virtual monopoly then the adherents of that religion tend to be lax in their beliefs UNLESS the government or the institutions of that religion are active in keeping the adherents zealous in their religion. Such was the case of countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, from the 50s to the 70s these countries were moderate. It was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and the Islamic revolution in Iran as well as the wahabis of Saudi Arabia exporting their brand of Islam to these countries that led to the rise in Wabahism in Pakistan and Bangladesh. In rural Punjab the government has an active interest to keep the Sikhs lax in their religion. The Sikh institutions like the SGPC are lame duck who are as corrupt as the government. So that is why rural Punjab is lax in Sikhism. However the time when there was an active movement to bring the lax Sikhs to Sikhism such as the period of Sant Jarnail Singh up to 1984, rural Punjab became the epicentre of a renaissance of Sikhism. The opposite is true wherever a religion is in a minority, the adherents of that religion will cling on to their religion because in an area where their religion and they are a majority then they feel under siege because the majority religion takes all the limelight. 

 

Why didn't Sikhi take off in cities? Are we just a bunch of villagers?

[puzzled]

3 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Why didn't Sikhi take off in cities? Are we just a bunch of villagers?

I think it's more than that lol  throughout history various Sikh have travelled into villages and settled there. I was reading how there used to be various Sikh Rajput clans but then they started buying land and marrying jatts and eventually merged into jatt clans, stuff like this been happening for a long time.

I also think during the 18th century during the persecution a lot of Sikhs started settling in the rural areas. 

[BhForce]

On 5/1/2020 at 11:55 AM, Singh1989 said:

Sikhi teaches us "Do not blame/ revenge sons' for their farthers mistakes). So it's ok to befriend them. 

What you are saying is true:

ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਪਾਏ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਪਕੜੀਐ ਕਿਸੈ ਥਾਇ ॥੩॥

"In this age, one who does with this hand, receives the same with then other hand. None is apprehend in place of another." p406

 

But it's in relation to people in general.

Sikhi also teaches us not to be friends with people who hate Satguru. Muslims (if they are following their religion) inherently think that any religious leader after Mohammed is a fake. They believe Mohammed was the "seal of the Prophets".

Friendship with manmukhs leades to vikar:

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਸੇਤੀ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਥੋੜੜਿਆ ਦਿਨ ਚਾਰਿ ॥
The friendship with the apostates lasts only for a short period of four days.

ਇਸੁ ਪਰੀਤੀ ਤੁਟਦੀ ਵਿਲਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਇਤੁ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਚਲਨਿ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥
No delay occurs in the breaking of this affection and this friendship leads to many sins. p587
 

 

[BhForce]

On 5/1/2020 at 11:55 AM, Singh1989 said:

Sikhi teaches us "Do not blame/ revenge sons' for their farthers mistakes). So it's ok to befriend them. 

What you are saying is true:

ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਪਾਏ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਪਕੜੀਐ ਕਿਸੈ ਥਾਇ ॥੩॥

"In this age, one who does with this hand, receives the same with then other hand. None is apprehend in place of another." p406

 

But it's in relation to people in general.

Sikhi also teaches us not to be friends with people who hate Satguru. Muslims (if they are following their religion) inherently think that any religious leader after Mohammed is a fake. They believe Mohammed was the "seal of the Prophets".

Friendship with manmukhs leades to vikar:

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਸੇਤੀ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਥੋੜੜਿਆ ਦਿਨ ਚਾਰਿ ॥
The friendship with the apostates lasts only for a short period of four days.

ਇਸੁ ਪਰੀਤੀ ਤੁਟਦੀ ਵਿਲਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਇਤੁ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਚਲਨਿ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥
No delay occurs in the breaking of this affection and this friendship leads to many sins. p587