Have I missed something who is this sikh dr who cut his beard

[ChardikalaUK 96]

34 minutes ago, BhForce said:

What? You made the statement yourself.

I just asked you what it meant.
Instead of answering, you go off into something else.

I guess that means your statement (that "Guru Nanak ji taught us to be logical") means nothing at all.

All right, then, that's out of the way. Because you refuse to defend the statement.

So Guru Nanak ji did not teach us to be logical.

Answer my question first, would you let your child die because you refused to cut their hair for a brain operation?

[Singh1989 171]

4 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Ok that's very silly.

AH! being hardcore like that isn't for everyone. The more meditation, bania, sangat, simran and seva one does the easier it becomes to understand things better. 

[ChardikalaUK 96]

59 minutes ago, Singh1989 said:

AH! being hardcore like that isn't for everyone. The more meditation, bania, sangat, simran and seva one does the easier it becomes to understand things better. 

So tell me would you let your son or daughter's life to end if the only way to save them is to operate on their head and hence have to remove some hair?

[Premi5 193]

11 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

So tell me would you let your son or daughter's life to end if the only way to save them is to operate on their head and hence have to remove some hair?

That was not the original story of this thread.

he did not gave to do it. His religion should be more important to him than his work

God would always help pukka Gursikh find solutions.

in the case of child you are asking question about, would br best to seek advice of a religious leader if in that situation 

[jkvlondon 5,059]

On 5/12/2020 at 1:09 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

Not cutting his hair was silly. What do you think Guru Nanak would say about such a thing. He taught us to be logical.

I would think that someone who had Brahmgian would know much more than a worldly logician ...get some sikhi insight and crack some books. By your thinking all the shaheeds were illogical and therefore wrong but sikhi sees them upholding their principles instead of living life as slaves and husks of men. Standing up for your beliefs and remaining a person of your word is more important than mere logic and convenience to a gursikh , to follow the Guru Sahib whereever He takes you in life.

 

[jkvlondon 5,059]

turns out this thicko was a Canadian doctor who worked for a football club I think since they mention FC , working in MOntreal a french dominant and anti-sikh locale in Canada whse parliment i Quebec passed laws recently against government/public  posts being occupied by folks showing their ther religious affiliations . Seems this is being used to undermine sikh saroop in Canada
https://www.redpepper.org.uk/sacrificing-sovereignty-sikhs-and-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3zBh-J6zZfJShfY_Q00_UFBYvZfaKN6c2inlugD0o3kwhexfTsLaAvbpc

[Redoptics 162]

31 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

turns out this thicko was a Canadian doctor who worked for a football club I think since they mention FC , working in MOntreal a french dominant and anti-sikh locale in Canada whse parliment i Quebec passed laws recently against government/public  posts being occupied by folks showing their ther religious affiliations . Seems this is being used to undermine sikh saroop in Canada
https://www.redpepper.org.uk/sacrificing-sovereignty-sikhs-and-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3zBh-J6zZfJShfY_Q00_UFBYvZfaKN6c2inlugD0o3kwhexfTsLaAvbpc

Hopefully the other Dr doesn't follow suit

[Singh1989 171]

On 5/12/2020 at 5:27 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

So tell me would you let your son or daughter's life to end if the only way to save them is to operate on their head and hence have to remove some hair?

Good point! would I? Naaah am in attachment. I'd b like "Koi na puth! kes fir a jao ge." 

Of course Kartar Singh parents were, I would imagine, no longer alive or didn't know what was going on as mobile phone didn't exist back then plus not all households had landline. But whether they were around or not Sant Kartar Singh was at a Brahmgian stage. Sikhi was EVERYTHING to him. Brahmgians wholly detach worldly things. 

We can only dream of reaching such stages. 

[ChardikalaUK 96]

30 minutes ago, Singh1989 said:

Good point! would I? Naaah am in attachment. I'd b like "Koi na puth! kes fir a jao ge." 

Of course Kartar Singh parents were, I would imagine, no longer alive or didn't know what was going on as mobile phone didn't exist back then plus not all households had landline. But whether they were around or not Sant Kartar Singh was at a Brahmgian stage. Sikhi was EVERYTHING to him. Brahmgians wholly detach worldly things. 

We can only dream of reaching such stages. 

Ok would you do the same thing if you were old and had children and possibly grandchildren who wanted you to continue living?

[$ingh $oorma 11]

On 5/11/2020 at 3:59 PM, Singh1989 said:

Fairly new. Unfortunately not all Gursikhs are hardcore hard sikhs. Only Sant Kartar Singh was, who accepted death instead of an operation where some hair removal would've been inevitable. 

Literally dumber words have never been written then this! What’s next? No blood transfusions from non Amritdhari’s? I hope that you recall the journal of the physician attending to Guru Gobind Singh Ji notes that hair removal and stitching was needed and done after he was fetched to care for Guru Ji.  (Source: Mogul India by Niccolao Manucci)

[AjeetSingh2019 130]

He just wanted to shave his beard and wanted an excuse. He got one.

[Singh1989 171]

On 5/17/2020 at 1:57 PM, $ingh $oorma said:

Literally dumber words have never been written then this! What’s next? No blood transfusions from non Amritdhari’s? I hope that you recall the journal of the physician attending to Guru Gobind Singh Ji notes that hair removal and stitching was needed and done after he was fetched to care for Guru Ji.  (Source: Mogul India by Niccolao Manucci)

Ok. 

[Premi5 193]

On 5/17/2020 at 1:57 PM, $ingh $oorma said:

Literally dumber words have never been written then this! What’s next? No blood transfusions from non Amritdhari’s? I hope that you recall the journal of the physician attending to Guru Gobind Singh Ji notes that hair removal and stitching was needed and done after he was fetched to care for Guru Ji.  (Source: Mogul India by Niccolao Manucci)

If you weren’t there, you cannot verify what happened. 

[Not2Cool2Argue 506]

On 5/12/2020 at 5:55 AM, ChardikalaUK said:

Answer my question first, would you let your child die because you refused to cut their hair for a brain operation?

Its totally allowed in sikhi to cut hair for kedical emergencies and get pesh. But alot of elderly sikhs dont do undergo surgeries that require hairloss IF the risk of dying on the table is high. 

They dont want to die a patit. 

Ofc we should remember religious tolerance is a great sikhi principle. However we only apply it to other faiths not towards sikhs. Mostly its the liberal or not rehit following that get kn a high horse. But lets all remember we r at different stages of spirituality and we r not the ones goint thru that problem. Who knows if we would be strong enoygh to do the right things.

[Premi5 193]

48 minutes ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Its totally allowed in sikhi to cut hair for kedical emergencies and get pesh. But alot of elderly sikhs dont do undergo surgeries that require hairloss IF the risk of dying on the table is high. 

Can you give me a source /historical precedence for your first sentence?.