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Gita puts stamp on the cruel varna system!


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46 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

This means that Gurbani has not been enough to remove the caste system. Something else is required then.

Honesty and reflection is required.

It doesn't help that we have a whole industry in 'Punjabi' music and songs that constantly perpetuate caste identity. Even academic work isn't immune with certain casteists working themselves in at prominent positions in universities and publishing work that reflects casteist ideology.   

Truth is that certain people have built up an identity along caste lines very deviously, and the results are here for all to see now. I'd say it's infinitely worse now in certain quarters than it was 25 years ago. That's because certain people have been lying and pretending whilst pushing this agenda on the sly. 

Gurbani and Guru ithihaas tells us all that we need to know about the Sikhi position towards casteism. Truth is that certain people (and you know whose the worse at this!) love their caste identity much more than their Sikh one. Which tells us all we need to know about how deep their conviction is towards their dharam (i.e. superficial at best). 

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The sad thing is that casteist Gurdwaras are more prevalent in the west than in India.

This isn't true. Many if not most villages in Panjab have caste based Gurdwaras, to the extreme where certain people are openly excluded from attending; or overtly made to feel bad if they do. 

In the UK, whatever else one might say, no one is going to exclude someone from another jaat from attending a Gurdwara. Committee membership might be another issue, but even that is usually a reaction to certain jaats trying to hog all resources for themselves and their community/cronies (like they've done with SGPC), forcing communities with smaller numbers to create institutes that keep the resources within themselves. Gurdwaras have traditionally been the method that the quom uplifts itself, if one community hogs all resources because of some casteist sense of entitlement, it only makes sense for others to prevent this.  

We can see with the SGPC/Akali Dal 'votes for whiskey', just how low certain people can go to stay in power.   

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42 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

R u making fun of my angrezi? Lol

No bhai ji, your English is very good. Better than a lot of Canadian raised apnay. Try avoiding that modern use of text speech though; like R for 'are' or U for 'you'. It makes some people not take the content seriously, and makes them think that you don't know standard English. 

 

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3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

No bhai ji, your English is very good. Better than a lot of Canadian raised apnay. Try avoiding that modern use of text speech though; like R for 'are' or U for 'you'. It makes some people not take the content seriously, and makes them think that you don't know standard English. 

 

yes, that type of text message talk stopped in the UK around 10 years ago when Smartphones became popular

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