Jump to content

Why nri Sikhs get so easily emotionally fooled?


Recommended Posts

Nri Sikhs gave millions of dollars/pounds to kejriwal. Kejriwal used all that money on Delhi instead of punjab.

Baba jaswant Singh told nri Sikhs that he will open dental college for poor sikh students. He got lots of money from nri Sikhs. My sister studied in that college. It's all about money there and no poor Sikhs study there. Even Hindu girls who can offer good money study there.

So many people on the name of khalistan got loads of money from nri Sikhs. Where that money went nobody knows.

Why nri Sikhs give so much money to people without checking/enquiring where that money gets used?

  • Like 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 53
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Why India-resident Sikh leadership use Sikhi as a front for self-enrichment, greed and corruption? 😅

I completely understand what you said here. I played 'dumb' a little because I've asked you the question before but you were not very forthcoming (about whether UK bhangra scene increased popularity o

I think that you REALLY struggle to grasp what I say. And often get the wrong end of the stick. But let me tell you how I think it went.  The 80s were appalling for nonwhites in the UK. Open

Posted Images

5 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Nri Sikhs gave neions of dollars/pounds to kejriwal. Kejriwal used all that money on Delhi instead of punjab.

Baba jaswant Singh told nri Sikhs that he will open dental college for poor sikh students. He got lots of money from nri Sikhs. Moy sister studied in that college. It's all about money there and no poor Sikhs study there. Even Hindu girls who can offyer good money study there.

So many people on the name of khalistan got loads of money from nri Sikhs. Where that money went nobody knows.

Why nri Sikhs give so much money to people without checking/enquiring where that money gets used?

Are you saying Indian Sikhs DON't get fooled ?

Do these NRI's mind completely change when they leave India ? They only became fools when they left India ? I doubt it, they would know all about any tricks or corruption in India

Anyone can get fooled, and sometimes we don't realise it. 

On a related point, are Western charities and NGO 'fooling' people as well? I think in some cases, even the big names, they are

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
29 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Are you saying Indian Sikhs DON't get fooled ?

You are right. Indian Sikhs are so easily fooled by babaas or by immigration agents.

But nri Sikhs living in first world countries, u expect them to be more wise.

  • Like 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, shastarSingh said:

You are right. Indian Sikhs are so easily fooled by babaas or by immigration agents.

But nri Sikhs living in first world countries, u expect them to be more wise.

People get fooled in '1st  world' countries also

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

You are right. Indian Sikhs are so easily fooled by babaas or by immigration agents.

But nri Sikhs living in first world countries, u expect them to be more wise.

You know what I think it is? I think being raised in Panjab very often makes you a sociopath i.e. a natural liar, who gets off on deceiving (most often their own) people and making fools out of them. It's natural behaviour for them. You can tell with the way desis, more often than not, try and con their own relatives out of land. It's like a choreaan da culture as a norm over there. You can tell by the way many desi people's eyes are that they have a  ਚੋਰਾਂ ਦਾ ਨਜ਼ਰ.  

Whereas some of us in the diaspora grow up around a lot of other communities that are not like us. Some of these communities appear to be more united than us and support each other. They have movements within to try and bring their own societies up, and to compete with others (mainly competing with goray). This seems attractive and some of us wish to uplift our own community in this way, especially as they often look like underdeveloped, backwards country bumpkin yokels to us - which is cringe worthy. 

But I do think you are right, we should think twice about giving any f**k about desis, because if the ball was on the other foot, they'd probably stand around and watch us die with no problem.   And then do some gay bhangra going 'bwaaaaah! bwaaaah'! Like this c**t:

 

Hardysingh Hardysaini GIF - Hardysingh Hardysaini Purebhangra GIFs

Bottom line: We care too much, whereas desis (especially rural juts) don't care about about anything other than money.

And this has been said in a room full of desi jut 'builders' in front of me recently, and not one single jut disagreed. So any butt hurt pendus can bite their lip.  

  • Like 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bottom line: We care too much,

Nri Sikhs shud keep caring about Sikhs in India but shud do so wisely.

There are many families of shaheed Singhs who are in pretty bad shape.

On the other hand some fuddus got money from nri Sikhs on the name of khalistan or Kharrku lehar and used that money on making their big kothis.

Nri Sikhs shud be watchful against such deceivers.

  • Like 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Nri Sikhs shud keep caring about Sikhs in India but shud do so wisely.

There are many families of shaheed Singhs who are in pretty bad shape.

On the other some fuddus got money from nri Sikhs on the name of khalistan or Kharrku lehar and used that money on making their big kothis.

Nri Sikhs shud be watchful against such deceivers.

I remember hearing about some pardaan in Southall Gurdwara, collecting a bunch of funds to buy a tank for the K'stan movement. He took a massive amount of Gurdwara funds and then just disappeared with the money, this was in the 80s! lol

Rural apnay have this herd like mentality, and if they have some event or cause, they don't want to look cheap because they feel it shows on their reputation, so they make a show of contributing, to prove they are 'down for the cause'.

What I'd want to know is, what is the SGPC/Akali Dal doing about the shaheed families? They aren't short of funds. I'd have thought even those lowlifes would have sorted out the families, even if for the wrong reasons i.e. to make a show of their 'religiosity'. But that just shows you what we've been talking about regarding desi mentality - they happily give out whiskey for votes but leave these families hanging. And all of the desi folk just tolerate it. 

And then you wonder why some of us (who would love a Sikh country!) think the idea of K'stan is ridiculous given these characteristics (which are pretty much norms) in the panth right now.  

  • Like 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I remember hearing about some pardaan in Southall Gurdwara, collecting a bunch of funds to buy a tank for the K'stan movement. He took a massive amount of Gurdwara funds and then just disappeared with the money, this was in the 80s! lol

Rural apnay have this herd like mentality, and if they have some event or cause, they don't want to look cheap because they feel it shows on their reputation, so they make a show of contributing, to prove they are 'down for the cause'.

What I'd want to know is, what is the SGPC/Akali Dal doing about the shaheed families? They aren't short of funds. I'd have thought even those lowlifes would have sorted out the families, even if for the wrong reasons i.e. to make a show of their 'religiosity'. But that just shows you what we've been talking about regarding desi mentality - they happily give out whiskey for votes but leave these families hanging. And all of the desi folk just tolerate it. 

And then you wonder why some of us (who would love a Sikh country!) think the idea of K'stan is ridiculous given these characteristics (which are pretty much norms) in the panth right now.  

Just look at widow colony in Delhi.

DSGMC is super rich as well as the Delhi Sikhs........

  • Like 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I remember hearing about some pardaan in Southall Gurdwara, collecting a bunch of funds to buy a tank for the K'stan movement. He took a massive amount of Gurdwara funds and then just disappeared with the money, this was in the 80s! lol

Rural apnay have this herd like mentality, and if they have some event or cause, they don't want to look cheap because they feel it shows on their reputation, so they make a show of contributing, to prove they are 'down for the cause'.

What I'd want to know is, what is the SGPC/Akali Dal doing about the shaheed families? They aren't short of funds. I'd have thought even those lowlifes would have sorted out the families, even if for the wrong reasons i.e. to make a show of their 'religiosity'. But that just shows you what we've been talking about regarding desi mentality - they happily give out whiskey for votes but leave these families hanging. And all of the desi folk just tolerate it. 

And then you wonder why some of us (who would love a Sikh country!) think the idea of K'stan is ridiculous given these characteristics (which are pretty much norms) in the panth right now.  

Not just shaheed parvaars, but also dharmi faujis, we haven't been able to help them too.

Sgpc is all chor.

They could have opened good sikh schools that would have stopped sikh parents sending their kids to convent Christian schools.

They could have opened small hospitals or dispensaries.

They could have opened many drug deaddiction centres.

They could have helped in parchar on jaats, gujjars, sikligars, vanjaras.

They could have translated sikh literature into Hindi and other Indian languages and done parchar of sikhi all over India.

  • Like 1
  • Confused 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Nri Sikhs gave millions of dollars/pounds to kejriwal. Kejriwal used all that money on Delhi instead of punjab.

Baba jaswant Singh told nri Sikhs that he will open dental college for poor sikh students. He got lots of money from nri Sikhs. My sister studied in that college. It's all about money there and no poor Sikhs study there. Even Hindu girls who can offer good money study there.

So many people on the name of khalistan got loads of money from nri Sikhs. Where that money went nobody knows.

Why nri Sikhs give so much money to people without checking/enquiring where that money gets used?

People want to help and they trust too easy.

Because we believed that Indian residential Sikhs have higher morals than the foreign Sikhs who have been westernised. 

Indian Sikhs have typically been put on a moral pedestal as they are seen as more authentic and idealised in a way Western Sikhs feel they wish they were.

We western Sikhs feel guilty about not being in touch with our culture so we over-compensate.

Our parents that came from Punjab in previous eras made us feel guilty about our western ways so much that when we meet our cousins from Punjab who are own age group, we feel that is how our parents wish we were. 

However, the reality is very different. 

When we realise that Indian.Sikhs are not better than us Western Sikhs it creates a lot of cognitive dissonance and this becomes resentment. 

When you are brought up and raised to think of a segment of your quam as superior to you, you realise that you been lied to all your life when reality bites and you have lots of rage and anger.

When you put people on a pedestal and they do not meet expectations then the fall from grace from the eyes of a Western.Sikh is great than the Indian Sikhs fall into a gutter. 

I hope this articulates things in a more clear way.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

People want to help and they trust too easy.

Because we believed that Indian residential Sikhs have higher morals than the foreign Sikhs who have been westernised. 

Indian Sikhs have typically been put on a moral pedestal as they are seen as more authentic and idealised in a way Western Sikhs feel they wish they were.

We western Sikhs feel guilty about not being in touch with our culture so we over-compensate.

Our parents that came from Punjab in previous eras made us feel guilty about our western ways so much that when we meet our cousins from Punjab who are own age group, we feel that is how our parents wish we were. 

However, the reality is very different. 

When we realise that Indian.Sikhs are not better than us Western Sikhs it creates a lot of cognitive dissonance and this becomes resentment. 

When you are brought up and raised to think of a segment of your quam as superior to you, you realise that you been lied to all your life when reality bites and you have lots of rage and anger.

When you put people on a pedestal and they do not meet expectations then the fall from grace from the eyes of a Western.Sikh is great than the Indian Sikhs fall into a gutter. 

I hope this articulates things in a more clear way.

I am born and brought up in punjab but due to my good education, I have travelled abroad.

I won't talk about general Punjabis but I find western born practicing Sikhs much more honest and spiritual. Lots of practicing Sikhs in India are so hypocritical and arrogant.

When sikhi will become global, it will be due to the honesty and spirituality of western born naam abhiyasi gursikhs.

  • Like 1
  • Confused Copy 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

I am born and brought up in punjab but due to my good education, I have travelled abroad.

I won't talk about general Punjabis but I find western born practicing Sikhs much more honest and spiritual. Lots of practicing Sikhs in India are so hypocritical and arrogant.

When sikhi will become global, it will be due to the honesty and spirituality of western born naam abhiyasi gursikhs.

Western Sikhs are not perfect.

If we are honest it is because there is nothing to be gained from the political BS. You live a much better life with far less baggage then looking to lie, cheat every second you get. 

I can see why the police beat the **** out of people in India because it is the only to get any truth out. The people are so crooked that it takes a lathi to make them.straight. 

Reason and understanding is not appreciated only fear.

India is a messed up place and quite frankly the people disgust me.I suspect many Western Sikhs feel the same. 

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

India is a messed up place and quite frankly the people disgust me.I suspect many Western Sikhs feel the same. 

Why western Sikhs have not able to produce local parcharaks and kirtaniyas and gianis?

Why so much money is wasted in importing parcharaks kirtaniyas and "brahmgyani" babaas from india almost every weekend.

  • Like 2
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

When sikhi will become global, it will be due to the honesty and spirituality of western born naam abhiyasi gursikhs.

I think it's also going to spread through everyday people who have a deep connection to Sikh culture (not Panjabi culture!). I think these people will be refreshing for the world. And by this I mean by their openness/ honesty but also guile, strength and bravery. Those things are inspiring to people.  

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...



  • Topics

  • Posts

    • It's been happening regularly to @dallysingh101 for some time. And if you know a certain detail it only makes it more obvious that certain people are being targetted not their content. 
    • I'm confused. Is this a farmer protest issue or a Guru Sahib desecration problem?
    • https://indianexpress.com/article/north-east-india/meghalaya/sikh-punjabi-shillong-sad-megahalaya-governor-7572180/   Sikh delegation reaches Meghalaya, requests Guv to intervene in relocation decision “We shared our concerns and he assured us that no injustice will be done and the residents will not be removed illegally,” DSGMC President Manjinder Singh Sirsa told The Indian Express. Written by Tora Agarwala | Guwahati | October 14, 2021 10:31:08 pm A delegation of the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DGMC) with Meghalaya Governor Satya Pal Malik. (Twitter/mssirsa)   Keeping the pressure up on the Meghalaya government to revoke its decision of relocating Dalit Sikh residents of Them lew Mawlong area in Shillong, a delegation of Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) Thursday requested the intervention of Meghalaya Governor Satya Pal Malik in the matter. “We shared our concerns and he assured us that no injustice will be done and the residents will not be removed illegally,” DSGMC President Manjinder Singh Sirsa told The Indian Express. A four-member team, led by Sirsa — who is also the National Spokesperson of Shiromani Akali Dal — met Malik at his official residence in Shillong earlier on Thursday afternoon. “He said he had already taken up the matter with Chief Minister Meghalaya Conrad Sangma as well,” said Sirsa, adding that they could not meet the Chief Minister because he was out of town. The Sangma-led Cabinet’s October 7 decision to relocate the Sikh community from the area, also called the Punjabi Lane, based on recommendations made by a high-level committee, had drawn protests from the residents, who claim that they have been living in the area since the 1850s, after they were brought by the British to work as scavengers and sweepers in the region. While the government claims that the land belongs to the Urban Affairs Department, the Sikhs say the land was “gifted” to them by the Syiem (chief) of Hima Mylliem – one of the chiefdoms in Khasi Hills – in the 1850s. The land dispute has simmered for decades, with sections of society and political organisations in Meghalaya demanding that residents be shifted to some other area. It took a violent turn in May 2018, leading to clashes between local Khasis and Sikhs of the area, after which a high-level committee was formed to settle it. While Sikh groups have called the move “illegal”, “unjust” and “unconstitutional”, with leaders saying they would take the matter up with Union Home Minister Amit Shah, the Meghalaya government has stood firm on its decision so far. On Monday, Deputy Chief Minister Prestone Tynsong had told The Indian Express that they had “followed due diligence” on the issue. Sirsa said that since a status quo had been ordered by Meghalaya High Court on 9 April, 2021 based on a petition filed by Sikh groups in 2018, the high-level committee had no power to make such a decision. “The residents cannot be relocated without following due process,” he said. In a representation to Malik, DSGMC — an autonomous organisation that manages Gurudwaras, hospitals, educational institutions and welfare of Sikhs — that the Meghalaya government’s decision to take “possession” of the land is an action towards “instigating clashes” that can “spiral into violent unrest.” It also added that the government of Meghalaya asking the Urban Affairs Department to work out a relocation plan may lead to instigating the residents, “without even granting them an opportunity to say anything.” “The unilateral decision of the government in the name of illegal settlers is highly unconstitutional in nature and despite the directions of Hon’ble High Court they are not stopping from going ahead” it added. Gurjit Singh, President of the Harijan Panchayat Committee, which represents members of the Sikh Dalit community in Shillong, said that they felt “more confident” after the DSGMC meeting with Malik. “We are hopeful that the government will rethink their decision,” he said.
    • https://www.thedrum.com/news/2021/10/14/zulu-alpha-kilo-shares-how-it-helped-harley-davidson-protect-sikh-bikers-with-the   Zulu Alpha Kilo shares how it helped Harley-Davidson protect Sikh bikers with the Tough Turban By Awards Analyst - October 14, 2021 The Tough Turban camapign aimed to improve safety conditions for Sikh motorcyclists.   The challenge Harley-Davidson is a brand built on a love for the open road and its riders are passionate for the freedom that it offers. Yet for some riders, that freedom has come at the expense of their safety and their very identity. For Sikh men, the turban is a deeply important part of their identity. For decades, Sikhs who rode motorcycles found themselves choosing between their beliefs and their safety as all Sikh men are required to cover their hair as a symbol of respect and humility. Because traditional motorcycle helmets violate this religious tenet, the government in the Canadian province of Ontario passed legislation in 2018 that exempts Sikh men from the law requiring all motorcycle riders to wear protective helmets. The exemption was a hard-won step forward, but it also introduced a critical question: how could Sikh riders engage in their passion and still ensure their safety while riding without a traditional helmet? This created an interesting and unusual challenge: how to develop an alternative to a motorcycle helmet so Sikh motorcyclists would no longer have to choose between their beliefs and their safety. The strategy If anyone could address this challenge it would be the world’s most iconic motorcycle brand and its largest Canadian dealership, Pfaff Harley-Davidson in Richmond Hill, Ontario. Harley-Davidson attracts riders of all cultures, yet is often perceived to be the choice of old white men. Stepping up to a challenge like this was an opportunity for Harley-Davidson to help a group of riders overcome a big hurdle to fully embracing their passion – and to send a signal about the importance of diversity. The size of the need is large – Canada is second only to India in the number of Sikhs in the country. Through conversations with Sikh riders an interesting historical truth was discovered. In ancient times, Sikh warriors would go into battle with chain mail woven into the fabric of their turbans. This provided protection without violating religious tenets. It sparked our thinking: why couldn’t a modern-day equivalent be created to provide the safety that Sikhs deserve? It also led to the insight driving the initiative: with the right motorcycle gear, Sikh riders could be empowered to protect who they are. The campaign Tough Turban is a marriage of ancient traditions and modern, high-tech engineering. It’s a turban made of impact-resistant materials that also fully respects the requirements of the Sikh faith. A critical step was the development of the turban itself. Armed with a powerful concept, we assembled our team of industrial design experts with experience in 3D printing and composite fabrics used in bulletproof clothing. After a series of prototypes, a final design was developed. About half the overall fabric is normal turban material, but the outer layers include Dyneema, a 3D-printed carbon-fibre take on chain mail, and non-Newtonian foam, which is normally pliable but hardens instantly on impact. These are the elements that make it a tougher turban. With the design complete, the next part of the plan was the communications needed to get the word out. A website was the anchor of the effort. It houses a video that profiles several Sikh riders discussing the need the Tough Turban addressed, as well as highlighting how the turban was actually engineered. Along with the video, open-sourced production files for the turban were published to enable manufacturers anywhere in the world to be able to produce the turbans in their own markets. PR support outlining the initiative launched in early June, including posts on all of Pfaff Harley-Davidson’s social channels. The results The Tough Turban initiative has been a resounding success. Media response exploded overnight with coverage in 171 US media outlets, 54 in Canada, 18 in the UK and 11 in India, totaling 238.8m earned impressions and an advertising value of $2.19m. Quantitative research with people who own or are planning to buy a motorcycle showed a significant shift in perception after they’d been exposed to the Tough Turban initiative: 87% saw Harley-Davidson as more favourable 86% saw Harley-Davidson as more innovative 83% saw Harley-Davidson as more inclusive 85% were more likely to consider buying a Harley-Davidson Three manufacturers have reached out to explore large-scale production, including the world’s largest producer of two-wheeled motorized vehicles. The potential to save lives through this idea is enormous. It could offer protection to millions of Sikh motorcyclists globally.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use