Ukraine-Russia crisis

[shastarSingh]

9 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

Not sure...can you see the human race surviving 200 years esp with global warming 

@shastarSingh

i think you may be able to explain better...are we at the beginning/middle end?

Kaliyug is going to get more bad but will finally fall at the hands of Khalsa.

Naam will eventually win and Maya will eventually loose because Naam is more powerful than Maya.

It's tough to tell when kaliyug started and when it will end.

[shastarSingh]

On 2/26/2022 at 11:56 PM, proactive said:

Chinese would never arm the Muslims, they are themselves dealing with a Islamic insurgency by the Uyghurs. They will look to arm or support those who did not directly threaten China, such as the Naxals, us of course and the Assamese, Nagas, Mizos etc. 

Chinese are encircling India. if Russia manages to take Ukraine or the Russian areas and the west negotiates and accepts the change of borders, that would be a green flag for the Chinese to go into Taiwan. With an id.iot like Biden who had made so many stupid statements about Ukraine still in change the Chinese know the US will not do anything. 

The Chinese aim with India would be to contain India, having encircled it, they will now increase their presence in the Indian ocean, this will panic India as it can envisage a war in the Himalayas but not in the Indian ocean especially with its financial capital Mumbai exposed.  The mass of the Indian population has never been affected by war. Only Punjab and West Bengal have been directly affected. The mass of the jingoistic Indian population can wave flags and sing patriotic songs when a war is thousands of miles away in the Himalayas, when when the coastal cities are threatened and bombs start dropping in the Indian heartland they will beg the government to make peace.  The Chinese will not attack India, they know that just the sight of Chinese naval ships in the Indian ocean is enough to bring the Indian leadership to its senses. 

There is no doubt that the Chinese have established links with our Kharkoos in Pakistan through the ISI and is probably looking to establish contact with Khalistanis abroad. We are bigger threat to India given our 120,000 Sikhs in the Indian army especially on the border facing the Chinese. Punjab is also well situated to threaten Indian supply lines to Ladakh and having the Indian army fear the loyalty of 120,000 Sikh soldiers as well makes us a better option for the Chinese than 10 crore Muslims. The Chinese will also have seen how Modi bowed to our agitation and they also realise that Modi did this because of the fear of China. They will use these facts psychologically. 

If China does invade, unless we have a Panthic government in Punjab which can act as our leader we will essentially be leaderless as we were in 1857. 

Even if China won't arm the Muslims, the Muslims will still join them and fight against the Indian state. Muslims hate Hindus in UP. They live separately from hindus and prefer not to do business with them.

UP is full of illegal weapon trade. So Muslims will get hold of weapons one way or the another.

Most of big Hindu religious cities are in UP like ayodhya, Varanasi, vrindavan etc.

If UP falls to China and Muslims, muslims will destroy Hindu temples just as Hindus demolished babri masjid.

May be it will be the divine punishment of God for 1984.

At present,we Sikhs shud be working 24 HOURS to do sikhi parchar in western UP but the SGPC bastards are busy using panth's money on their families or for Badals.

 

[dallysingh101]

12 hours ago, 5aaban said:

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/sada-chief-says-stranded-students-must-stay-back-fight-for-ukraine-7792582/ 

SAD(A) chief says stranded students must stay back, fight for Ukraine

Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar) chief Simranjit Singh Mann said, “Instead of packing up your bags and coming back to India, the Sikhs among you must volunteer for military service against the Russian invasion."

Amid SoS calls to evacuate Indian students stranded in Ukraine after Russia’s invasion, Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar) chief Simranjit Singh Mann urged Punjabi students, particularly Sikhs among them, to “not leave Ukraine, opt for army training, and fight for the country they have tasted salt from”.

In a video message, recorded both in Punjabi and English languages, Mann, who contested the February 20 Punjab Vidhan Sabha polls from Amargarh constituency, said, “Instead of packing up your bags and coming back to India, the Sikhs among you must volunteer for military service against the Russian invasion. You should go to the nearest military post, declare your identity as a student and volunteer for active military duty. You should ask for 15 days’ training in infantry and artillery. And then join the defences of Ukraine against Russia.”

A former IPS officer and a former MP, Mann said that the Sikhs were “peeved with Russia” for 1984 Operation Bluestar “at the call of Indira Gandhi and other like minded parties, including Soviet Union and British forces in attacking the stateless Sikhs” and reducing “the golden temple complex to dust”.In the video message, recorded from his native Qila Harnam Singh village on Thursday, 77-year-old Mann asked the students to “volunteer for two weeks’ military training in infantry and artillery in the Ukraine’s period of crisis”.

“Go to nearest army camp. Tell them that you have come to study in Ukraine. Tell them that in this hour of crisis you are volunteering to help militarily. We are a martial race. There is no need to flee to other countries or to come back to India,” Mann said, accusing Russia of highhandedness on Ukraine in 2014 also by “robbing it of a huge territory”.

Mann said if students volunteered for military service for Ukraine, “it would result in big laurels for Sikh community across the world”.“Je aapan ne Ukraine da ena chir loon khaada, parayee keeti te vaapis Indian aun di lor nahi ai ..aapni martial race aa (If we lived and had food and salt in Ukraine, studied there then there is no need to return. We are martial race)” Mann said, urging the youth to join military ranks to side with Ukraine.

I got to say it. Mann was one of the few  politicians in Panjab who had any respect and spoke about autonomy.  I know he made sacrifices including prison time. 

But that being said, he seems to have lost the plot now. First the stuff about hijabs, now this.  

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Mann said if students volunteered for military service for Ukraine, “it would result in big laurels for Sikh community across the world”.

He's lost his mind. Like all those laurels from ww1 and ww2 mean shyte. Brits didn't bother to pay the ww2 Sikh sepoys pensions in the end. He's talking like a proper brainless jut now. That loyal lapdog talk.  

Find another way to get our guys military training Mann.  

[dallysingh101]

13 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

I was about to post this and tag @dallysingh101but you beat me to it 

Alright, so I'm not the only one who's thinking this way.......

[5aaban]

11 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I got to say it. Mann was one of the few  politicians in Panjab who had any respect and spoke about autonomy.  I know he made sacrifices including prison time. 

But that being said, he seems to have lost the plot now. First the stuff about hijabs, now this.  

He's lost his mind. Like all those laurels from ww1 and ww2 mean shyte. Brits didn't bother to pay the ww2 Sikh sepoys pensions in the end. He's talking like a proper brainless jut now. That loyal lapdog talk.  

Find another way to get our guys military training Mann.  

Sikhs/Panjabi life shouldn't be lost in conflict which doesn't concern us. Nobody will remember their contributions and none of these nations will  support Sikhs when needed.  

[dallysingh101]

11 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

We can't lose anymore Sikhs/Panjabis in other people's wars. Nobody will remember their contribution and none of these countries support Sikhs when needed.  

Exactly. Used and then dumped with not required. A few condescending pats on the head maybe. 

[5aaban]

On 3/1/2022 at 12:24 AM, dallysingh101 said:

Exactly. Used and then dumped with not required. A few condescending pats on the head maybe. 

So many Sikhs died fighting wars for colonisers. And the same nation trying to extradite young Sikh men today.

No one should be proud for taking part in useless wars. They should be seen as a lesson, never to be repeated again. 

[dallysingh101]

22 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Muslims hate Hindus in UP. They live separately from hindus and prefer not to do business with them.

How are Sikh Hindu relations in UP?  

[dallysingh101]

Just now, 5aaban said:

Some people were supporting the statement made by Mann. These types of people can never learn from history. 

So many Sikhs died in wars of the British but it's the same nation trying to extradite young Sikhs. No Sikh should be "proud" for fighting in these wars, they should be seen as a lesson, never to be repeated again. 

It's easy for them to support the statement, most wouldn't let their own sons do it though I reckon. 

Anyway, if they did, they might fighting these guys:

 

10,000 Muslim soldiers from Chechnya are on their way to Kiev to help Russia. Not something people would have guessed.

[5aaban]

10 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

It's easy for them to support the statement, most wouldn't let their own sons do it though I reckon. 

Anyway, if they did, they might fighting these guys:

 

10,000 Muslim soldiers from Chechnya are on their way to Kiev to help Russia. Not something people would have guessed.

Leaders wouldn't make that statement if their sons were in the situation.