Birth control- is it right or wrong?

[shastarSingh]

31 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

They literally melt it with I think one added chemical. Lemme find the video...

 

 

Thanx.

[dallysingh101]

20 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Dally Singh veerji

Just as in Singapore, only a person who can't survive without car shud be allowed a car and that too a smaller car.

Electric scooters and solar panels hv great potential in punjab/india.

 

Problem is, our lot revel in status be it Bullet motorbikes or Mercedes. That is habit that will be hard to break from what I see.  

[shastarSingh]

9 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Problem is, our lot revel in status be it Bullet motorbikes or Mercedes. That is habit that will be hard to break from what I see.  

Humans never change for good. They shud be forced to change.

Environment and nature is the property of all human beings. Few people hv no right to ruin it.

[Jai Tegang!]

We need to promote large families and actually provide resources to support them. If Sikhs keep going with 1-2 kids our problems are only going to get worse, especially in Punjab/India. Our community holding back a few extra hundred thousand kids per year has no impact on India's demographics, never mind global. The results of our birth control are being felt already with villages emptied of youth, disintegrating family ties, non-sikhs pushing into Punjab. You will see more and more churches and masjids mushrooming with fewer youths willing to protest for our kaumi rights. Caring for the environment is all good, and so is controlled population growth, but it all depends on where you are in the world. India is locked in a birthing race between the muslims and hindus  and Sikhs think this doesn't affect them. It certainly does! If we don't keep up, as we are not, we will suffer the consequences, as we are. 

[dallysingh101]

36 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

We need to promote large families and actually provide resources to support them. If Sikhs keep going with 1-2 kids our problems are only going to get worse, especially in Punjab/India. Our community holding back a few extra hundred thousand kids per year has no impact on India's demographics, never mind global. The results of our birth control are being felt already with villages emptied of youth, disintegrating family ties, non-sikhs pushing into Punjab. You will see more and more churches and masjids mushrooming with fewer youths willing to protest for our kaumi rights. Caring for the environment is all good, and so is controlled population growth, but it all depends on where you are in the world. India is locked in a birthing race between the muslims and hindus  and Sikhs think this doesn't affect them. It certainly does! If we don't keep up, as we are not, we will suffer the consequences, as we are. 

Producing people who are more into their caste identity (who know who!) regardless of their external façade, which is a norm in Panjab, doesn't help one bit either.  

Get behind it, like people of all nationalities and creeds have done in other faiths, or just admit you don't believe in it at its core, and go elsewhere. 

[SinghPunjabSingh]

4 hours ago, Jai Tegang! said:

We need to promote large families and actually provide resources to support them. If Sikhs keep going with 1-2 kids our problems are only going to get worse, especially in Punjab/India. Our community holding back a few extra hundred thousand kids per year has no impact on India's demographics, never mind global. The results of our birth control are being felt already with villages emptied of youth, disintegrating family ties, non-sikhs pushing into Punjab. You will see more and more churches and masjids mushrooming with fewer youths willing to protest for our kaumi rights. Caring for the environment is all good, and so is controlled population growth, but it all depends on where you are in the world. India is locked in a birthing race between the muslims and hindus  and Sikhs think this doesn't affect them. It certainly does! If we don't keep up, as we are not, we will suffer the consequences, as we are. 

Exactly. 100% correct.

The only people who want to see Sikhs die childless or unmarried and decline with lower than replacement TFR are non-Sikhs who despise Sikhs at the core (albeit that they might try and pretend to pass themselves off as Sikhs in order to more aggressively spread their poisonous anti-Sikh ideology).

Often these types will also try to promote a toxic casteist ideology at the same time as they cannot tolerate unity among Sikhs that the Ik Nagri Ik Gurdwara ideology is spreading with the target of only one united Gurdwara per pind (or locality in the West) within the next 5 years.

[GurjantGnostic]

On 4/6/2022 at 9:50 AM, shastarSingh said:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-15-8237-0_11

I have prototype ideas for electrical generation, at the household level, that provides electricity, and results in distilled water and salt as the byproduct. 

Done at mass scale we could increase freah water supplies, slow the raising of the sea level, and not effect the salinity of the ocean itself...while generating power that we need. 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 4/6/2022 at 2:12 PM, dallysingh101 said:

Bhai ji, our options are limitless, nihangs can even sell quality horses (like to arabs) for massive amounts if they wanted. All the manure from these animals will be critical for fertiliser too. We need to aim for Begumpura! Make it a place people want to live in and not run away from. 

 

I'm just saying, how much does a kilo of karelay sell for in Panjab? In the UK it's 892 Indian rupees a kilo.  

Fertilizer plus charcoal plus sulfur equals self determination. 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

Exactly. 100% correct.

The only people who want to see Sikhs die childless or unmarried and decline with lower than replacement TFR are non-Sikhs who despise Sikhs at the core (albeit that they might try and pretend to pass themselves off as Sikhs in order to more aggressively spread their poisonous anti-Sikh ideology).

Often these types will also try to promote a toxic casteist ideology at the same time as they cannot tolerate unity among Sikhs that the Ik Nagri Ik Gurdwara ideology is spreading with the target of only one united Gurdwara per pind (or locality in the West) within the next 5 years.

I agree bro. What @shastarSingh is feeling is true scientifically, is true from a world perspective. But we are a long time not living in Satyug where the world is united. Treta Yugh is in fact defined in part by the fact that at that time righteousness was at a national level. Then by Dwapar Yugh we have righteousness or empathy through identity at the family level. Now we are fully selfish. And so not for many Yughs could we get everyone to conserve their births. 

Even in Treta Yugh all nations might agree, but some so that the others would slow down, and they would betray the contract and continue the increase. 

and so here in Kalyug we must see to a birthrate that grows. And also convert and adopt. 

As we need many Khalsa for Khalsa Raj. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Also. It's corruption, waste, greed and wealth disparity, and methods of farming etc that artifically make us hit the current population ceiling. 

This planet will one day be a garden oasis again,  heavily left to nature, augmented and stewarded by high technology. In a confluence of renewable. 

Individual houses will all be ecological and independently powered, and have their own utility systems. 

If we don't destroy the planet, and starve by the billions and die of thirst first.