Indian Labor Migrants in Lebanon: A Comparative Study of Migrants from Punjab and Tamil Nadu. Seema Gaur, Prem Saxena

[dallysingh101 7,440]

2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Puff piece "study"

People from Punjab and Tamil Nadugo to work to Lebanon to work because they are low income and want to work for more money.

Yawn..

Yeah, whatever mate. That's the way you people brush off shyte, until it's something that can't be ignored (not that certain people even then, won't be fronting). 

[dallysingh101 7,440]

31 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I think the trend of British-born Sikh guys marrying Punjabi brides has died down now. It needed to happen.

That was generally only the blokes too f**king ugly, or lacking in personality to attract any bird here anyway. 

[dallysingh101 7,440]

3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

There have been any conversations amongst our Sikh women how Pakistani women wearing lots of gold.

Yeah, those broads have made a great reputation for intelligence over here...............

 

[dallysingh101 7,440]

@MisterrSingh @Ranjeet

Let's stop beating around the bush. The point is that it looks like your peasant culture, is some low IQ, inadequate, baggage nonsense in the face of all the issues the panth faces today. If anything, it's causes most of the problems. 

[5aaban 786]

7 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

what's up with showing off expensive cars in music videos? Why this obsession with materialism?

Irony is these singers don’t own the cars, they’re rented. So why show off something you don’t have? 

[Ranjeet01 3,908]

7 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I think the trend of British-born Sikh guys marrying Punjabi brides has died down now. It needed to happen. Those brides of the 90s (later, mothers) passed on that greedy mentality (having come from literal huts and villages) to their offspring, which is probably why much of that generation (now in their late teens / early 20s) are still expounding caste-related nonsense, and seem to be completely unhinged when it comes to accumulating objects and flashing their wealth. The fathers (Gen X-ers) are clueless British fudhoos as one would expect, so most of this behaviour is inherited from the overly bhukki mother.

The post-2005 Indian arrivals who came via Italy, Portugal, Spain, Bulgaria, etc., are something else, lol. They have a commendable work ethic (to a degree), but they have zero desire to pay their dues. Very impatient. They see what our elders worked 30,40,50 years to build, and these clowns want it all in 3 years. They have no idea how our elders put in the graft and sacrificed so much. In some ways their greed is greater than anything we've ever seen over here. Their entitlement is off the scale. But, strangely, they're also a little more aware of the Indian state's shenanigans, and therefore slightly more politically aware. But it's all very superficial and ultimately it's still that old Punjabi thing of waiting for Superman to descend from the clouds and provide a solution to the bigger problems. Their religiosity is also a load of posturing. It's very insincere.

Gen X fudoo blokes with all their cluelessness happen to be this way because of how they were brought up.

We are not one mass of people, we all migrated out of Punjab at different stages and our circumstances and values dictate of our tempremant, personality and outlook. 

Gen X grew up at a time with mothers out of the 1960s who are a different breed compared to the ones who came in the 1990's. 

This generation was brought up with tinted glasses because you might have gone to Punjab for holidays and people were very different then and you did not see the mass migration of freshies. The parents of those Xers pushed a narrative of "Gora Bad! Indian Good!" It's not Gen Xers fault. 

Like I might have mentioned before we Punjabi Sikhs (like all the other subcontinent ethnic groups) always felt a sense of moral superiority over the gora.

We have been brought up with delayed gratification whereas the new arrivals have instant gratification. Amongst other things we have seen the freshies indulge in, I think that moral superiority we might have felt has probably gone.

The post 2005 freshie's were brought up with India Govt schenigans so it stands to reason they are clued up. We did not grow up there so we would we?

Now we have reach the 2020s, the various Sikh communities probably walk in different directions.

The only time maybe when an older established Sikh may interact with the freshie Sikh is when they need some buidling work done.

Later generations of arrivals will not appreciate the sacrifices made by the earlier arrivals

They are either indifferent or don't care. 

I cannot relate to them and they will not with us.

They do not consider us as one of them. We may have the same roots and heritage but we are different types of people. 

They look at us and think "Why are these lot lecturing us on how things are done. I had my 2 phulke and know more than these dumba $$es"

To any older generation Sikhs, lets not lecture the freshie's. Let them get on with their puttheh kam and let us get on with our own business.

 

[MisterrSingh 8,525]

4 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

To any older generation Sikhs, lets not lecture the freshie's. Let them get on with their puttheh kam and let us get on with our own business.

 

As someone observed a few weeks ago, they're going to be in trouble when it comes to their daughters and a certain predatory brown minority. They don't see it, though.

[Ranjeet01 3,908]

15 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

As someone observed a few weeks ago, they're going to be in trouble when it comes to their daughters and a certain predatory brown minority. They don't see it, though.

What is the gora expression 

"We told you so!" Or 

" You can lead horse to water but you can't make them drink"

We have done what we can, but they think they are more clever than us.

Let them learn the hard way.

[proudkaur21 2,211]

22 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Actually, try thinking about it. The brits did this to a certain group amongst us to devastating effect for a protracted period. They are on record saying they thought these people were docile and slow to learn. Maybe becoming engrossed/lost in perpetual self-adulation (via folksongs, modern songs, movies, and even back handed 'compliments' in written works), makes certain people blind to reality, and thus easy to manipulate? It's like keeping them permanently suspended in a false reality whilst you make moves to finally finish them off. So it would be in every enemy of the panths interest to encourage and facilitate the 'culture' (in a very loose sense of the word) that helps conjure this scenario/mindset. 

This would explain A LOT of what we are seeing.

And just to juxtaposition the current projection of a certain people with an older one, from within Sikh sources - have a look at a certain number of chariters that explicitly cover this community, and just see for yourself just how starkly different the Sikh representations are to the modern stuff. One is rooted in ground level reality and constructive criticism, the other is plain 'giving the pump' as Panjabis say.      

The Brits were totally right. They do make a good cannon fodder.

[proudkaur21 2,211]

meanwhile...

 

[Premi5 3,297]

5 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

As someone observed a few weeks ago, they're going to be in trouble when it comes to their daughters and a certain predatory brown minority. They don't see it, though.

I think the Dads might be able to do a reasonable job in protecting their daughters, but it will also require the Mums to be open about the issues that their daughters need to be wary of

5 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Let them learn the hard way.

I'd prefer they don't have to learn the hard way !

'Freshies' attend the Gurdwara in high numbers, right? Having talks a few times a year to raise awareness would do something at least.

Also, how much of the 'them vs us' attitude that 'Freshies' might have is because they are aware that many of the earlier settled generations in the UK, have 'looked down' on them? Maybe we should stop labelling them 'Freshy' and use a more neutral term?

[Ranjeet01 3,908]

18 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

I think the Dads might be able to do a reasonable job in protecting their daughters, but it will also require the Mums to be open about the issues that their daughters need to be wary of

I'd prefer they don't have to learn the hard way !

'Freshies' attend the Gurdwara in high numbers, right? Having talks a few times a year to raise awareness would do something at least.

Also, how much of the 'them vs us' attitude that 'Freshies' might have is because they are aware that many of the earlier settled generations in the UK, have 'looked down' on them? Maybe we should stop labelling them 'Freshy' and use a more neutral term?

No one looks down on them. The fact that earlier generations give them advice is because we want them to succeed and not make the mistakes we made.

 

[Premi5 3,297]

30 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

No one looks down on them. The fact that earlier generations give them advice is because we want them to succeed and not make the mistakes we made.

 

Since the advice is not related to work and finance, they might be more willing to accept it. 

[dallysingh101 7,440]

2 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Since the advice is not related to work and finance, they might be more willing to accept it. 

 I think some of them think we are trying to falsely scare them.  

[Ranjeet01 3,908]

11 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Since the advice is not related to work and finance, they might be more willing to accept it. 

Here's a life lesson: Never give advice unless you are asked for it.