Should Non Sikhs Be Allowed 2 Vote In Gurdwara Elections

[KH4L1$T4N1]

is this the havelock one or the park avenue one?

[AK47 JATHA LION]

PARK AVENUE. i havnt noticed this at havelock.

[BABBAR KHALISTANI]

Its mainly Hindu girls that do it, i dnt think they gujji because the ones ive confronted have said they are hindu punjabi or wateva they call it. Ive seen a few white christian women who have done it. and some hindu men.

Thank waheguru....had they been sikh girls half of my blood would have been burnt in anger

[S1ngh]

Sikh as defined by Akal Takht Rehat Meryada should be the only one to vote in sikhi related polls. We had similar issue few years back in sacramento gurdwara sahib when Kala Afghana party friends tried to hijack the gurudwara polls by bringing not ONE but dozens of FIJI Indians with BIG OM"S on their cars. Singhs stopped the election and police was called and later on with court appointed clerks and registration system, only SIKH came to vote few months later and the good side won with way ahead in numbers.

I still think that voting should not be held on any gurdwara related issues. We don't need parties to control the flow of gurdwara sahib. Give the power to Granthi sahib and im pretty much sure that three full time granthis can control the normal flow of the management of gurdwara sahib.

[rimmel]

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[Guest PRITAM SINGH KHALSA]

I witnessed that disgusting event unfold yesterday. The owner of that car parked up at park avenue gurdwara and walked str8 into the voting/registration office which is located on the side of the gurdwara. HE didnt come to matha tekh or show any respect to the Guru ji. he walked st8 into the registration office to get his voting card made for the october comittee elections. I saw many people do this. it seems alot of hindus only have an interest in determining who wins the commitee elections even though they dont even visit the gurdwara. why do they have such a keen interest in who wins the sikh comitee elections?

they want a hand in everything. i saw countless hindus walk in and do the same thing yesterday.

alot of non-sikhs also seem to be using the Gurdwara car park as a means to avoid a parking ticket by not parking on the public roads. they park their car up and go down southall broadway to do some shopping. or park up and go to the glassy junction pub across the road. or sometimes girls come in very short mini skirts and park up then go southall station and catch a train to central london. what is this nonesense. ive approached these idiots many times to confront them. ive told them the car park is for the sangat. Everytime i have confronted them they have all said the same lie "oh we went to the gurdwara". when ive clearly seen them go out of the car park elsewhere. yeh like girls in mini skirrs are gonna go gurdwara to matha tekh. what is this nonsense

You should have ran up to them with blankets to cover them up so after awhile they would get tired of getting raided with blankets they would stop using the parking lot if they feel dumb about doing what they are doing. Tell them to go in the mandir with a long cloth belt on {skirt} and sit and worship.You should also have women their with you to tell them that so they cant claim any harrassment happens because people that get mad for getting caught are sore losers and tend to make lies up. You should have a sign at the enterance saying if you are using the Gurdwara then you cant park their even for Sikhs that park their and not use the Gurdwara.

[Guest militant singh]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

They need to be there, how else will HIMMAT SINGH SOHI BE ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE GURDWARA AGAIN for Waheguru knows how many years standing??

Arent there any Panthic Singhs??

Himmat Singh Sohi calls the police on purpose, just incase the PANTHIC SINGHS take over the Gurdwara he has got constitutional rights etc etc!

why arent any Panthic programmes allowed at Sri Guru Singh Sabha Southall?? why does Himmat SOHI get DIOREAAH after hearing KHALISTAN?

WHY is the BE-SHARAM getting RE-ELECTED AGAIN??? IS THIS HOW HUNGRY HE IS FOR PRESIDENTSHIP OF THE GURDWARA??

WHY ISNT ANY MONEY OUT OF THE GOLAK GIVEN TOWARDS PANTHIC SEVA? 84 RALLY'S, SHAHEED FAMILIES ETC ETC??

tru say dwn wid the comiitee

I witnessed that disgusting event unfold yesterday. The owner of that car parked up at park avenue gurdwara and walked str8 into the voting/registration office which is located on the side of the gurdwara. HE didnt come to matha tekh or show any respect to the Guru ji. he walked st8 into the registration office to get his voting card made for the october comittee elections. I saw many people do this. it seems alot of hindus only have an interest in determining who wins the commitee elections even though they dont even visit the gurdwara. why do they have such a keen interest in who wins the sikh comitee elections?

they want a hand in everything. i saw countless hindus walk in and do the same thing yesterday.

alot of non-sikhs also seem to be using the Gurdwara car park as a means to avoid a parking ticket by not parking on the public roads. they park their car up and go down southall broadway to do some shopping. or park up and go to the glassy junction pub across the road. or sometimes girls come in very short mini skirts and park up then go southall station and catch a train to central london. what is this nonesense. ive approached these idiots many times to confront them. ive told them the car park is for the sangat. Everytime i have confronted them they have all said the same lie "oh we went to the gurdwara". when ive clearly seen them go out of the car park elsewhere. yeh like girls in mini skirrs are gonna go gurdwara to matha tekh. what is this nonsense

Are these mainly sikh girls or non sikh...maybe goris or gujjis????

they basically so called sikh ur usual S,L,U,T,S and 2 many gujjis and hindus ,car park says is 4 worshipers only and afake sign saying yo car wil be clamped if u aint a worshiper is up y dnt himmat and co enforce this?

[JagtarSinghKhalsa]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Membership for the Park Avenue and Havlock Road Gurdwaras in Southall has been open for about two weeks - since Monday 10 July 2006.

Perhaps someone from the Southall area could confirm how long the membership will be open for (another two weeks?), times the registration office is open for becoming a member and who the membership is open to - Sikhs over 18 living in the catchment area of four West London Boroughs.

Many Sikhs have commented on this forum and others for the need for change and these two Gurdwaras to get involved in and promote Panthic activities.

One suggestion is that an 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK' is built up of Sikhs over the age of 18, with an emphasis on younger Sikhs. Young Sikhs from the catchment area may wish to volunteer for the sewa of co-ordinating those belonging to the 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK'. Details should be kept of name, address, membership number and contact details.

If an 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK' of 500-1,000 members could be built up this could greatly influence the policies of those that will manage these two important Gurdwaras in the future. It would be a great start if regular Panthic programmes were to be given at the Gurdwaras and coaches could be arranged for the June 1984 March and Rally in central London. There is no reason why this BLOCK could not double its size over the next two years and eventually decide the outcome of who manages these Gurdwaras in its own right.

Some may think a BLOCK of 500-1,000 members is too large to develop in a short time period. However, the number of Sikhs over 18 estimated to be living in the four West London Boroughs must be in the region of 20-25,000 so this would appear to be a realistic target.

Based upon responses to this message, which should be widely circulated. Names and contact numbers will be given in the next 48 hours for Sikhs in the catchment area for these Gurdwaras who are willing to take on this important sewa.

YOUNG SIKHS (UK)

[Pyara]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Membership for the Park Avenue and Havlock Road Gurdwaras in Southall has been open for about two weeks - since Monday 10 July 2006.

Perhaps someone from the Southall area could confirm how long the membership will be open for (another two weeks?), times the registration office is open for becoming a member and who the membership is open to - Sikhs over 18 living in the catchment area of four West London Boroughs.

Many Sikhs have commented on this forum and others for the need for change and these two Gurdwaras to get involved in and promote Panthic activities.

One suggestion is that an 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK' is built up of Sikhs over the age of 18, with an emphasis on younger Sikhs. Young Sikhs from the catchment area may wish to volunteer for the sewa of co-ordinating those belonging to the 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK'. Details should be kept of name, address, membership number and contact details.

If an 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK' of 500-1,000 members could be built up this could greatly influence the policies of those that will manage these two important Gurdwaras in the future. It would be a great start if regular Panthic programmes were to be given at the Gurdwaras and coaches could be arranged for the June 1984 March and Rally in central London. There is no reason why this BLOCK could not double its size over the next two years and eventually decide the outcome of who manages these Gurdwaras in its own right.

Some may think a BLOCK of 500-1,000 members is too large to develop in a short time period. However, the number of Sikhs over 18 estimated to be living in the four West London Boroughs must be in the region of 20-25,000 so this would appear to be a realistic target.

Based upon responses to this message, which should be widely circulated. Names and contact numbers will be given in the next 48 hours for Sikhs in the catchment area for these Gurdwaras who are willing to take on this important sewa.

YOUNG SIKHS (UK)

AK47 JAtha Lion, Miltant Singh you gonna have to get in there and sort this out. Southall Singhs sort the situation out, the timings right!

[JagtarSinghKhalsa]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Membership for the Park Avenue and Havlock Road Gurdwaras in Southall has been open for about two weeks - since Monday 10 July 2006.

Perhaps someone from the Southall area could confirm how long the membership will be open for (another two weeks?), times the registration office is open for becoming a member and who the membership is open to - Sikhs over 18 living in the catchment area of four West London Boroughs.

Many Sikhs have commented on this forum and others for the need for change and these two Gurdwaras to get involved in and promote Panthic activities.

One suggestion is that an 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK' is built up of Sikhs over the age of 18, with an emphasis on younger Sikhs. Young Sikhs from the catchment area may wish to volunteer for the sewa of co-ordinating those belonging to the 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK'. Details should be kept of name, address, membership number and contact details.

If an 'INDEPENDENT PANTHIC MEMBERSHIP BLOCK' of 500-1,000 members could be built up this could greatly influence the policies of those that will manage these two important Gurdwaras in the future. It would be a great start if regular Panthic programmes were to be given at the Gurdwaras and coaches could be arranged for the June 1984 March and Rally in central London. There is no reason why this BLOCK could not double its size over the next two years and eventually decide the outcome of who manages these Gurdwaras in its own right.

Some may think a BLOCK of 500-1,000 members is too large to develop in a short time period. However, the number of Sikhs over 18 estimated to be living in the four West London Boroughs must be in the region of 20-25,000 so this would appear to be a realistic target.

Based upon responses to this message, which should be widely circulated. Names and contact numbers will be given in the next 48 hours for Sikhs in the catchment area for these Gurdwaras who are willing to take on this important sewa.

YOUNG SIKHS (UK)

AK47 JAtha Lion, Miltant Singh you gonna have to get in there and sort this out. Southall Singhs sort the situation out, the timings right!

Best if Southall Sikhs post on the separate item:

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