anti-sikh sites?

[Guest SikhForLife]

vjkk vjkf sangat jee

ive been visiting these sites for some time now and for some reason when i read them i get a weird feeling..

i am skepticle of what they are preaching..

http://www3.sympatico.ca/devinder.chahal/

http://members.pgonline.com/~mpurewal/

http://www.geocities.com/pritpal_bindra/ (then click on essays on sikhism)

i think the mpurewal site is a kala afghana site..

if these are indeed anti-sikh websites.. actions need to be taken

these websites have been online for over 2 years.. and have influenced some people i know..

[Guest SikhForLife]

i got this thru an email from one of the supporters...

this is ridiculous.. rite?

The first part, generally pronounced as Ik Oankaar/Ikankaar, of the

Commencing Verse, commonly called the "Mool Mantra," of Aad Guru Granth

Sahib should be pronounced as "Ik Oh Beant."

http://www3.sympatico.ca/devinder.chahal/j...nal/j020101.pdf

Chaupi: Hamri karo hath de rachhia... [from Charitropakhian

(Triacharitar)], should not be recited during the distribution of

"Parshad."

http://www.geocities.com/pritpal_bindra/could.htm

http://www3.sympatico.ca/devinder.chahal/j...nal/art009.html

http://www3.sympatico.ca/devinder.chahal/j...nal/art008.html

http://www.geocities.com/pritpal_bindra/s-017.html

QUOTE

"Is it justified forcing the Sikh institutions and the Sikhs of the Science Age and the future Sikh generations beyond 2000 to follow incomplete and constitutionally imperfect Rehit Maryada and unauthentic (fake) Hukm Namae?" Chahal, Prof. Devinder Singh. APOSTASY OF SIKHISM OR VIOLATION OF REHIT MARYADA. http://www3.sympatico.ca/devinder.chahal/j...nal/art008.html "Piara Singh Padam says about Rehit Namae that: “It is a mistake to accept every information given in every Rehit Nama is according to Gurmat. Many authors have written according to their own level of intelligence or under the influence of manmat (under the influence of ancient philosophy, ritualism, etc.), that are not right.” Similarly, Harinder Singh Mehboob has reported that 85 out of 87 Hukmnamae recorded in the book, Hukmnamae, of Ganda Singh, are fake Hukmnamae." (5) "If such type of publications are being produced by the so-called authorities (with the blessings of the Jathedars, SGPC President and Education Minister of SAD Government and by the Dharam Parchar Committee) then what intellectual power they have to evaluate blasphemous work in the publications of other Sikh and non-Sikh researchers and writers." (5) "If even by mistake it is conceded that Jathedar Akal Takhat individually or in the company of other Granthi Singhs can issue a 'hukamnama', it will be a negation of the concept as propounded by Guru Gobind Singh himself for the benefit of the Sikh Panth. The 'Guru Panth' concept itself forbids the Khalsa from being subservient to any one person or four-five persons howsoever high or exalted to positions they may be holding, and it is this basic approach that distinguishes Sikhism from Brahminism. If instead of the Guru Panth, on Jathedar or five Singh Sahibaan start exercising the right to issue edicts, what is the difference between Sikhism and Brahminism in that case?" (6) 6. Hukamnama and Sarbat Khalsa: when, why, how and by whom? http://members.pgonline.com/~mpurewal/hukam.html this email was sent to the Camp Chardikala E-group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/campchardikala/ youth camp group in the NJ/NY/CT area

[Guest balwinderkaur]

"Ik oh beant"?????????????????? My Goodness!!! :s:s

[Guest Akaal108]

Problem is now who decides whats anti-sikh and whats not???

are you goin to be judge for 36 million sikhs worldwide???

I think not mate :e: ... stop acting like an mini akaal takth like khalsa alliance is doing...

Oh sure if the site is insulting our guroo's sahiban then sure sort it out but if its matter of perception/point of view.. then i dont think you can decide whats an anti-sikh site or what sites are sikh site for us.....

So let akaal takth, sikh samparadama decide whats good and whats bad out there!!!!

On a site note: Dasam guroo durbar is guroo gobind singh maharaj bani whether people consider that as a little pornography book or not.. thats totally up to you and on your faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say curse on those who doubt maharaj diii bani just because their thick and narrow minds cant get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :<Edited>: :<Edited>: :<Edited>: :<Edited>:

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

Millions of Sikhs have meditated on these Banis...millions of people have attained higher spirits by meditating the Mool Mantar starting with Ik Onkaar...

Who are these people who think they know better?

Sad really...so much potential destroyed by pitiful ego...

P.S. N30 S!NGH Sahib Ji, you remember when the SGPC was forced to remove booking of Akhand Paaths? Well, it was the voices of the Sikh community that brought it to the attention of the Sikh authority to get action. The Akal Thakat is indeed the authority of the Sikh community, but someone has to tell them about such activities.

So SikhForLife, continue to bring such sites and misinformation to attention so we can keep an eye on them. And thanks.

[Guest SikhForLife]

I think not mate ... stop acting like an mini akaal takth like khalsa alliance is doing...

neo bhaji.. look at the title of the thread.. its in a form of a question..

i havent passed any direct judgement on the websites.. i have shared my opinion due to my limited knowledge.. rest is in a form of a question for the sangat to decide.

[Guest Akaal108]

Ok pher teek aa purkha.. sowwie where is my glasses????

[japmans]

Sat Sri Akal:

Millions of Sikhs have meditated on these Banis...millions of people have attained higher spirits by meditating the Mool Mantar starting with Ik Onkaar...

Who are these people who think they know better?

Sad really...so much potential destroyed by pitiful ego...

i think that's half the point that n30 veer tried to make, though.. as in, if they can reach their full potential through their view and perspective, does that all of a sudden make you the egoist? what i mean is that even if 65 billion people reached it one way, that doesn't mean that 2 billion can't reach it another.. it doesn't make it wrong..... yeah it goes fulllllllly against what we've been brought up with, but assuming that those are the teachings they've recieved, and they feel more spiritually inclined in that respect, that doesn't make them wrong.....i think that's the point n30 tried to make, at

least that's what i got out of it..and i pretty much agree.

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH]

that gusy gay and needs a beating all of em

otha

[S1ngh]

Ehna looka nu juteeey tau bigaaer kuch nahey pata lagna... (these ppls wont' understand a thing without proper punjabi beatings).. Hardev shergill came to my local gurdwara.. (Jathedar of Kala Afghana).. He wrote anti-sikhi material s much and when he came to the gurdwara, sangat went up to him and one singh slapped him soo hard that he stopped writing bad things for a while hahaha.. Don't be a wusss, sikhs ain't no hippies :nihungsmile:

N3O veerjeee as of khalsa Alliance work.. they are against kala afghana. Kala afghana needs no introduction.. he's the one who is still making huge mockery of sikhi.. (dasam granth, amrit, guru gobind singh jee and soo on).. So in the sense u r on kala side??

Purewal

Devinder chahal

Pritpal Bindra

I do get their anti sikh emails all tha time @ my email account.. and all their talk is anti-sikhi and im soo sure that these ppls will be the first one to hide or even they will convert to other religion if khalsa panth needs help from sikhs to hand in their sees (head)