Dont Judge People Based On External Form

[Punjabi_Link]

See, I am not the only one getting nasty notes in my mailbox. It is time for all monay to come together and take out these haters by any means necessary. :umm:

I'm not monay, but I do sympathize with you! Keep hope alive, brother!

Thanks for understanding. :umm:

[Punjabi_Link]

I think you all need to read this its taken from YOM:

One God: Waheguru

One Guru : Sahib Siri Guru Granth sahib Ji.

One Group : Guru Khalsa Panth!

One God....One Blood....One Love :umm:

[Guest Narinder Singh]

Flipping hell - a month later and the same topic. I think me and Punjabi_Link were having a beautiful debate in our last one. I was in the middle of exams and decided to drop it cos it was getting beyond a joke. I was telling Punjabi_Link in our last topic that to be sikh you must have both inner and outer. If you have one and not the other you are INCOMPLETE. It doesn't matter if you have an inner first or an outer but you must start somewhere and you cannot use others people's journey as a reason to label and hate.

I've been reading posts and I think thats the problem. So called 'Mona' don't understand this point. I think thats the crux of this arguement. You have to have BOTH inner and outer in Sikhi. The trouble with some people is that they find it hard to have outer and instead justify this by bantering on about how they have an inner and so why must people ask them why they don't have an outer....erm just like someone will ask about why you don't have an inner! People shouldn't get offened.

I dunno if Punjabi_link is joking about this war stuff of sikh vs sikh but I think its really stupid. I don't think I've ever written this but this is precisely what pisses me off the most about sikhs. Instead of having unity they argue with each other.

Also sikhs never have community feeling....for instance I see Sikhs around all the time but they never stop by to say hello - instead they give you weird looks and I find many of them look down on seeing someone who is Amritdhari. I'm not Amritdhari but I wear a keshki and this is what I have noticed. The punjabi people who I see as being apne are really mean and probably the worst.

This guy once made me cry cos instead of being like oh cool ure sikh too - he gave me a dirty look. My character is to find out exactly what was wrong and so when i asked him he was like nah i got nothing against but I just like to keep my distance cos of I don't want people to get intimidated. What normal sane person would say this kind of thing? I was like oh i see. Stupid prejudiced Sh*thead. I get better treatment from white people. I have yet to meet a white person who is like oh i don't wanna talk to you cos u wear a keskhi which was exactly wat this punjabi mona was saying.

I don't see why i have to be treated in such a bad way. I used to think that sikh people were nice but I'm kinda fast learning that its better not to talk to sikhs. All my friends this year have been white. Apne people are really prejudiced and nasty. I've never in my life been mean to anyone but this is what these people do. I've been living out for the last two year and this is what I have noticed and for some stupid reason I get alot of people trying to raise arguements between punjabi culture and religion. I am both punjabi and sikh. My family has been like that for decades. My great grandparents were both but now for some absurd reason people are looking for fights.

This is the sad state of our sikhi today. Its all about sikh dissing another sikh. A sikh will see another sikh and feel 'competition' rather than saying we should help each other. Its all about arguing. I'm not going to take part in this but if there will be a so called fight as Punjabi_link says then I hope these idiots kill each other off. That way normal people like me live and we can build a sikhi where love and compassion is the way forward - people our sikhs need to go back to the brotherhood and unity they once had.

Your fellow brothers were sending me notes in my mailbox telling me to that they're going to kill every mona. So I reply back and said, bring it on b*****. I hope these people show their identity and post in this thread. Show your faces, cowards.

I told you before but you still don't understand. Don't group me.

So you don’t want to be group with Sikhs? In other words, you don’t be to label as a Sikh? :umm:

Grouped with the views and actions of people sending you threatening emails you beffkoof.

Fateh.

[Punjabi_Link]

Flipping hell - a month later and the same topic. I think me and Punjabi_Link were having a beautiful debate in our last one. I was in the middle of exams and decided to drop it cos it was getting beyond a joke. I was telling Punjabi_Link in our last topic that to be sikh you must have both inner and outer. If you have one and not the other you are INCOMPLETE. It doesn't matter if you have an inner first or an outer but you must start somewhere and you cannot use others people's journey as a reason to label and hate.

I've been reading posts and I think thats the problem. So called 'Mona' don't understand this point. I think thats the crux of this arguement. You have to have BOTH inner and outer in Sikhi. The trouble with some people is that they find it hard to have outer and instead justify this by bantering on about how they have an inner and so why must people ask them why they don't have an outer....erm just like someone will ask about why you don't have an inner! People shouldn't get offened.

I dunno if Punjabi_link is joking about this war stuff of sikh vs sikh but I think its really stupid. I don't think I've ever written this but this is precisely what pisses me off the most about sikhs. Instead of having unity they argue with each other.

Also sikhs never have community feeling....for instance I see Sikhs around all the time but they never stop by to say hello - instead they give you weird looks and I find many of them look down on seeing someone who is Amritdhari. I'm not Amritdhari but I wear a keshki and this is what I have noticed. The punjabi people who I see as being apne are really mean and probably the worst.

This guy once made me cry cos instead of being like oh cool ure sikh too - he gave me a dirty look. My character is to find out exactly what was wrong and so when i asked him he was like nah i got nothing against but I just like to keep my distance cos of I don't want people to get intimidated. What normal sane person would say this kind of thing? I was like oh i see. Stupid prejudiced Sh*thead. I get better treatment from white people. I have yet to meet a white person who is like oh i don't wanna talk to you cos u wear a keskhi which was exactly wat this punjabi mona was saying.

I don't see why i have to be treated in such a bad way. I used to think that sikh people were nice but I'm kinda fast learning that its better not to talk to sikhs. All my friends this year have been white. Apne people are really prejudiced and nasty. I've never in my life been mean to anyone but this is what these people do. I've been living out for the last two year and this is what I have noticed and for some stupid reason I get alot of people trying to raise arguements between punjabi culture and religion. I am both punjabi and sikh. My family has been like that for decades. My great grandparents were both but now for some absurd reason people are looking for fights.

This is the sad state of our sikhi today. Its all about sikh dissing another sikh. A sikh will see another sikh and feel 'competition' rather than saying we should help each other. Its all about arguing. I'm not going to take part in this but if there will be a so called fight as Punjabi_link says then I hope these idiots kill each other off. That way normal people like me live and we can build a sikhi where love and compassion is the way forward - people our sikhs need to go back to the brotherhood and unity they once had.

Your fellow brothers were sending me notes in my mailbox telling me to that they're going to kill every mona. So I reply back and said, bring it on b*****. I hope these people show their identity and post in this thread. Show your faces, cowards.

I told you before but you still don't understand. Don't group me.

So you don’t want to be group with Sikhs? In other words, you don’t be to label as a Sikh? :umm:

Grouped with the views and actions of people sending you threatening emails you beffkoof.

Fateh.

hahahahahaha! Don't call me "beffkoof". LMAO I group those people giving me death threats as Sikhs.

[dalsingh101]

hahahahahaha! Don't call me "beffkoof". LMAO I group those people giving me death threats as Sikhs.

You're one too. Don't be in denial - you know its true! lol

[yadwinder]

punjabi link, ur tune is getting old n boring now

talk about "either my way or the highway" :umm:

Well bro, I got good news for you. I am leaving this website. So you and your people can talk more crap about monay now. :umm: I am done. I will find a new religious website where I wouldn't feel like an outcast. :lol: @ "Singhs" who keep sending me fake death threats in my mailbox. I will see you cowards on the battlefield.

I am just going to call myself a "mona" for now on instead calling myself a "sikh". Anyway, take care, bro. I am out.

Peace.

Dear Punjabilink;

I want to show you the difference between a sikh and patit(Mona). The bani says "wachan kare te khisak jayee, Bole sab kacha||

You have said you are leaving this community and srill posted on coming days, Please give the reply for this, i am still waiting, or this time you have left for sure.

[Eshani]

punjabi link, ur tune is getting old n boring now

talk about "either my way or the highway" :umm:

Well bro, I got good news for you. I am leaving this website. So you and your people can talk more crap about monay now. :umm: I am done. I will find a new religious website where I wouldn't feel like an outcast. :lol: @ "Singhs" who keep sending me fake death threats in my mailbox. I will see you cowards on the battlefield.

I am just going to call myself a "mona" for now on instead calling myself a "sikh". Anyway, take care, bro. I am out.

Peace.

Dear brother;

You have said that you are leaving this site, but still posting, there is saying in bani

Wachan kare te Khisak jayee|

Bole sab Kacha||

This is one difference between Mona and a sikh.

You want to fight The Amritdhari sikhs over calling you Mona, this is the most ridiculous thing that i have heard in my life.

Sura so pechaniyee Jo ladde, din ke haate|

Purja Purja lad mare| Kubhu na chode khet||

Sura is one who fights for religion.It is for religious people not for outcasts.

if you are not anritdhari, you cant be strong enough atleast spiritually. What we are living is to attain Guru and not to criticise anyone, keeping Kesh is in integral part of sikhi, if you cannot keep it you are free to convert and find best path to find God. As only aim of human should be to find way to God whatever path he chooses, he must try to follow it sincerely. If you say thousand Amritdharis are wrong then there will be atleast one Gursikh whom you can follow.

How can anyone forget Sahebjada Jorawar singh and Sahebjada Fateh Singh,They died for sikhi, I really feel disturbed that our Mona brothers have completely forget them. Just think about them for a moment before posting any reply or you dont know them????????

Regards.

[JustME]

erm sorry to kinda of butt in of this thread but wot r u guys going on about?

wot is a mona? (forgive my ignorance but ive never heard of this)

the term "Jethabathies" or summat was introduced to me as well.....................could anyone (without debate or critisism) kindly explain what these terms mean?

bhul chuck maafi

[Guest Narinder Singh]

erm sorry to kinda of butt in of this thread but wot r u guys going on about?

wot is a mona? (forgive my ignorance but ive never heard of this)

the term "Jethabathies" or summat was introduced to me as well.....................could anyone (without debate or critisism) kindly explain what these terms mean?

bhul chuck maafi

Honestly, you're better off not knowing!

Fateh.

[Guest baba amarjeet singh]

mr punjabi link

yes you are right in saying, no1 should hate some1 just because they are moneh

but i do not understand, you call yourself a sikh of the guru gobind singh sahib jee, yet are breaking one of the 4 cardinal sins?

this does not make sense to me

and then, further to that, you say you want war with amritdharis? and call them extremist? is it being extreme by following the hukam of your guru?