Urgent Help Please Contribute

[PAL 07]

Gurfateh,

could somebody please provide me with informative material about Guru Nanak DevJi's visit to Mecca,

so that i can paste it on this muslim forum where one guy states that Guruji must be muslim thats why they went on Hajj

[kam1825]

Gurfateh PAL07

The best thing might be to search on sikhawareness.com i am sure this issue has been discussed many times on there. If you find it you will be able to copy and paste it

[Mehtab Singh]

On Sikh Awareness I came across so-called evidences by someone claiming to be "Sikh" that Sahib Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji was Muslim. kam1825 veerjee you probably know that as well.

[Medallion Stallion]

Tell them that the REAL reason they pray 5 times towards mecca is because of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji :nihungsmile:

[Bundha]

PAL 07 ,

please use think link, it should give you a lot of info : http://www.info-sikh.com/PageKnowM.html

Hope it helps.

[JustME]

http://forums.waheguroo.com/Answers-To-Mus...ons-t16762.html

http://forums.waheguroo.com/Answers-To-Mus...ons-t16956.html

try these..............they absolutly fantastic man................me were propa mezmarised :lol:

[kds1980]

Gurfateh,

could somebody please provide me with informative material about Guru Nanak DevJi's visit to Mecca,

so that i can paste it on this muslim forum where one guy states that Guruji must be muslim thats why they went on Hajj

http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book...i=33&vaar=1

Her is what bhai gurdas ji wrote about guru nanak's visit to mecca

bwbw iPr m`ky gXw nIl bsqR Dwry bnvwrI]

baabaa fir maakae gayaa neel basathr dhhaarae banavaaree||

Donning blue attire then Baba Nanak went to Mecca.

Line 1

Awsw h`Q ikqwb k`C kUjw bWg mus`lw DwrI]

aasaa haathh kithaab kaashh koojaa baang musaalaa dhhaaree||

He held staff in his hand, pressed a book under his armpit, caught hold of a metal pot and mattress.

Line 2

bYTw jwie msIq ivc ijQy hwjI h`j gujwrI]

baithaa jaae maseeth vich jithhae haajee haaj gujaaree||

Now he sat in a mosque where the pilgrms (hajis) had gathered.

Line 3

jW bwbw su`qw rwq nUM v`l mihrwby pWie pswrI]

jaan baabaa suthaa raath noon vaal mehiraabae paane pasaaree||

When Baba (Nanak) slept in the night spreading his legs towards the alcove of mosque at Kaba,

Line 4

jIvn mwrI lq dI kyVHw suqw ku&r ku&wrI]

jeevan maaree lath dhee kaerrhaa suthaa kur kuaaree||

the qazi named Jivan kicked him and asked who was this infidel enacting blasphemy.

Line 5

lqW vl ^udwie dy ikauNkr pieAw hoie bjgwrI]

lathaan val khhudhaae dhae kiounakar paeiaa hoe bajagaaree||

Why this sinner is sleeping his legs spread towards God, Khuda.

Line 6

tMgoN pkV GsIitAw iPirAw m`kw klw idKwrI]

ttangon pakarr ghaseettiaa firiaa maakaa kalaa dhikhaaree||

Catching hold of the legs he lynched (Baba Nanak) and lo and behold the miracle, the whole of Mecca seemed to be revolving.

Line 7

hoie hYrwn kryn juhwrI ]óò]

hoe hairaan karaen juhaaree ||aa||

All got surprised and they all bowed.

Line 8

puCn gl eImwn dI kwzI mulW iekTy hoeI]

pushhan gal eemaan dhee kaazee mulaan eikathae hoee||

Qazi and maulvis got together and began discussing religion.

Line 1

vfw sWg vrqwieAw lK n sky kudriq koeI]

vaddaa saang varathaaeiaa lakh n sakae kudharath koee||

A great fantasy has been created and no one could understood its mystery.

Line 2

puCx Kol ikqwb nUM vfw ihMdU kI muslmwnoeI]

pushhan khol kithaab noon vaddaa hindhoo kee musalamaanoee||

They asked Baba Nanak to open and search in his book whether Hindu is great or the Muslim.

Line 3

bwbw AwKy hwzIAW SuB AmlW bwJo dovyN roeI]

baabaa aakhae haazeeaaan shubh amalaan baajho dhovaen roee||

Baba replied to the pilgrim hajis, that, without good deeds both will have to weep and wail.

Line 4

ihMdU muslmwn doie drgih AMdr lYx n FoeI]

hindhoo musalamaan dhoe dharagehi andhar lain n dtoee||

Only by being a Hindu or a Muslim one can not get accepted in the court of the Lord.

Line 5

kcw rMg kusuMB kw pwxI DoqY iQr n rhoeI]

kachaa rang kusunbh kaa paanee dhhothai thhir n rehoee||

As the colour of safflower is impermanent and is washed away in water, likewise the colours of religiosity are also temporary.

Line 6

krn bKIlI Awp ivc rwm rhIm kuQwie KloeI]

karan bakheelee aap vich raam reheem kuthhaae khaloee||

(Followers of both the religions) In their expositions, denounce Ram and Rahim.

Line 7

rwh SYqwnI dunIAw goeI ]óó]

raah shaithaanee dhuneeaa goee ||aa||

The whole of the world is following the ways of Satan.

Line 8

[The_Perfect_Student]

Guru nanak dev ji went all over the world to many countries to tell people the truth.

People were so lost in religion rituals that they didnt know what they were doing.

Guru nanak dev ji wanted to correct them.

Guru nanak dev ji went to mecca, he was lying down with his feet facing towards the house of GOD (according to muslim views) everyone looked at him and they were shocked and muslims came to him and kicked him saying "how dare you have your feet facing towards the house of GOD". he said to them "I am sorry, move my feet in the direction where God is not" the muslims moved his feet and realised wherever they were moving his feet, their house of God was moving in the same direction to face Guru nanak dev ji's feet. Muslims realised that Guru nanak wasn't ordinary person and that he was sent by God, they fell at his feet and were blessed with NAAM - GURPRASADI NAAM.

The whole point of this was that Guru nanak dev ji wanted to show them that GOD is everywhere. He wanted to tell that GOD doesnt live in stones, idols or pilgrimages or special places of worship. God lives in a body, that is why we call it a HARIMANDIR "Temple of God". The reason behind this everyone would worship idols, statues, pilgrimages, religous rituals, scriptuers and would not believe in a human guru. Gurus told us the importance of a living satguru because that is where GOD lives. SGGS was written to tell us the importance of satguru in spirituality. Everybody goes to worship special pilgrimage, when god comes to us as a satguru on earth, we slander and reject him. That is what happened in the past and is still happening.

dust of your feet

[UKGupt Kaur]

I find it rather odd that muslims are now fighting over Guru Nanak Dev ji. Guru Ji belongs to all of mankind.

If the muslims want Guruji to be muslims, then they should start reading Guru ji's bani and put to practice Gurmat. Its pointless otherwise.

I am sure you could post, if the site allows that is, Gurbani that teaches the futilely of rituals practices. Post Gurbani which teaches muslims on how to be good muslims as per Guru Ji's gurmat.

This is an interesting sakhi posted in http://forums.waheguroo.com/Muslim-Faqiran...ace-t21581.html

"AN INTERESTING INCIDENT

A very interesting incident occurred, when Siri Guru jee was in Lakhnaur. The famous Sufi saint Faqir Aarifu-deen was travelling in his palanquin (paalki) that he saw Siri Guru jee (who was only 6 years old at that time) playing gatka (martial arts) with children. Faqir Arifudeen had some bhagtee and he felt getting drawn towards Siri Guru jee.

He ordered his mureeds (disciples) to stop the palanquin and he started walking towards Siri Guru jee. He could not take his eyes off Siri Guru jee. He saw something special in Siri Guru jee. Without thinking he placed his head in the lotus feet (charan kamal) of Siri Guru jee. He went further and kissed the lotus feet of Siri Guru jee. He felt great mystical pleasure in doing so. Kanniya Laal an eminent scholar and historian has written about this incident in detail.

He made the following comment before departing – "I have envisioned that the key to the treasure of Allah is in the hands of this child". Saying this he started walking to his Dera. He did not use Palanquin till Siri Guru jee stayed in his sight. He gave so much respect to Siri Guru jee.

Historians write that at that time that even in his childhood, Siri Guru jee was like Vaheguru (partakh Har). One striking thing is that like Siri Guru Harkishen jee, Siri Guru Gobind Singh jee had such sweet personality that anyone who saw Siri Guru jee got bewitched by him. It is hard to imagine what Siri Guru jee looked like. Lucky are those people who saw Siri Guru jee."

This leads to sites that post statements saying that Guru ji was influenced by either hinduism or/and sufism which is utter nonsense.

Without trying to understand what a Sikh Guru is, non-Sikhs will most probably continue posting their propoganda.

BTW, a true Sufi is not a muslim and not connected to Islam. A interesting book to read about this subject is Sufism is not Islam: A Comparative Study

IDE944 by Shahid A. Chaudhary

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDE944/

[sunny_love_kirtan]

Gurfateh,

could somebody please provide me with informative material about Guru Nanak DevJi's visit to Mecca,

so that i can paste it on this muslim forum where one guy states that Guruji must be muslim thats why they went on Hajj

i want link to that post in that muslim forum and want to see what they say and how they react.

please gimme the link direclty to that post.