Gang War

[Only five]

jgill,

It's funny you still haven't figured out that oranges are not apples.

Renu attacks Sikh community when it is the punjabi community, which happens to follow punjabi culture.

Your ignorance is truely bliss man.

Go lay down and when your calm come back and write something that is reasonable.

[apnepart2]

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/drugs-drogues/drg-2007-eng.htm

Cocaine

Key findings

• Mexico played an increased role as a transit country for cocaine destined for Canada in 2007.
• There was a significant increase in liquid cocaine seizures for 2007.

Demand⁶

Cocaine hydrochloride (HCL) is a white crystalline powder derived from the coca bush leaves which are cultivated in the Andes Mountains in South America. Cocaine HCL is a stimulant drug often diluted with other substances such as cornstarch, talcum powder or benzocaine (a local anaesthetic).

The market for cocaine in Canada has remained relatively stable in 2007. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) estimated that 0.4 per cent of the global population between 15 and 64 years old consumed cocaine in 2006-2007. North America (45%) continued to represent the largest proportion of cocaine users followed by West and Central Europe (24%), and the combined regions of Central America, South America and the Caribbean (19%).

Supply and Smuggling Patterns

In 2007, the UNODC World Drug Report reported 181,600 hectares in coca cultivation, up 16 per cent from the previous year's 156,900 hectares, in the source countries of Bolivia, Colombia, and Peru. This was largely due to the noted expansion in the area under cultivation in Colombia (27%) and slighter increases in Bolivia (5%) and Peru (4%).

Despite the increase in coca cultivation, cocaine production was reported to increase only slightly from 984 metric tonnes (mt) in 2006 to 994 mt in 2007. Analysis indicates that the global potential for cocaine production was limited due to low yields from the coca crops. Of the total global production of cocaine (994 mt), Colombia accounted for 60 per cent (600 mt), followed by Peru with 29 per cent (290 mt) and Bolivia with 10.5 per cent (104 mt).

Colombia remains the primary source country for powder cocaine destined for the Canadian market; however, in 2007 cocaine originating from Peru increased significantly in comparison to previous years.

According to Health Canada, 2,630 kilograms of cocaine and 23.946 kilograms of crack were seized by various law enforcement agencies across Canada in 2007. These numbers reflect intercepts at the Canadian ports of entry as well as in-land seizures.

The largest proportion of cocaine smuggled into Canada continues to be concentrated at major ports of entry located in British Columbia (B.C.), Ontario, and Quebec. Prior to 2006, the largest quantities of cocaine seized arrived via the air mode, while for the last two years the land mode was ranked as the primary smuggling method. Despite this noted change, direct international flights from the Caribbean (Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Tobago), Mexico, and South America (Peru and Guyana) to Canadian international airports located in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver continue to present ample opportunities for drug smuggling.

An increasing trend noted at Canadian international airports was the smuggling of cocaine in liquid form. Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reported seizing a total of 83.52 kilograms of liquid cocaine in 2007, of which the majority originated in Peru, whereas in 2006 only 13.81 kilograms were seized in Canada. By transforming cocaine from powder form into liquid, drug traffickers are attempting to further avoid detection by port authorities. The liquid cocaine was concealed by air passengers within their luggage within bottles of alcohol or in hygiene and health products. The most frequent interdiction point was Toronto Pearson International Airport.

Although Colombia's position as the foremost source country for cocaine destined for the Canadian market does not fluctuate considerably, transit countries often shift in importance. Correspondingly, Mexico's role as a transit country for cocaine destined for Canada has increased not only by way of the Mexico-U.S.-Canada highway corridor but also by direct shipments via air and marine modes. For instance, two separate large cocaine seizures (50 kg and 48 kg) were intercepted at the Vancouver International Airport from direct commercial flights originating in Mexico. In both cases, as the cocaine was concealed in baggage that was not associated to any passengers on the commercial flight, it must have been placed on the aircraft in a manner which bypassed all normal security screening procedures. This indicates that an airport employee with the required security clearance was responsible for placing the baggage on the airplane in Mexico.

The marine smuggling case involved a container shipment which originated in Mexico and transited the Bahamas before arriving at the Port of Montreal in June. A total of 160 kilograms of cocaine were seized concealed in a shipment of pureed frozen mango. Five Mexican nationals were charged with importation and possession of drugs for the purpose of trafficking. The investigation revealed that the drug importers were operating under a front company named Quality Mexport, a food distribution company.

In spite of the increased smuggling activity originating in Mexico in 2007, the United States remained the primary transit country for cocaine destined for Canada. According to CBSA, approximately 1.4 tonnes of cocaine were intercepted in the United States en route to Canada over the two-year period from January 2006 to December 2007. While this confirms the prominence of cross-border land smuggling for cocaine destined for the Canadian market, the use of air mode through private aircraft and helicopters between ports of entry continued to be observed.

During the first half of 2007 (January to June), the United States reported cocaine supply shortages in several of its large and mid-size drug markets. Despite the reported decrease in the availability of cocaine in the United States, Canada's cocaine markets were not visibly impacted. This could be explained, in part, by the considerable differences in population size between Canada and the United States, and the corresponding size of the cocaine user population in each country.

The trend of cross-border smuggling of polydrug shipments of Canadian-grown marihuana and/or MDMA (Ecstasy) into the United States in exchange for cocaine, firearms and proceeds of crime continued in 2007. It was noted that some Canadian organized crime groups reportedly preferred to receive cocaine as a form of payment in lieu of U.S. currency.

The common practice of multi-commodity cross-border smuggling was further demonstrated by the successful conclusion of a joint Canadian-U.S. interagency investigation in the Pacific Highway region. This investigation resulted in the arrest of a corrupt CBSA officer who knowingly allowed vehicles into Canada that contained 208 kilograms of cocaine, firearms and ammunition. Approximately $200,000 in suspected proceeds of crime were also seized as a result of a search warrant executed on the residence of one of the suspects, following these arrests.

Top of PageTrafficking Activity and Groups

Canadian criminal organizations with a cross-border nexus are generally established in large cities close to the Canada-U.S. border such as Vancouver, Toronto, Windsor, and Montreal. This proximity to major ports of entry and large U.S. urban centres facilitates the brokering of drug transactions between American and Canadian organized crime groups.

Several of these criminal organizations also have world-wide networks utilized to facilitate drug trafficking, particularly cocaine importation into Canada. Throughout 2007, various investigations identified the involvement of individuals with origins in Latin America, traditional crime groups, and outlaw motorcycle gangs. Reportedly, independent criminal groups, Indo-Canadian criminal organizations, as well as criminal groups with ties to Asia also remained implicated in cocaine smuggling activities.

The international connections of Canadian-based criminal organizations and their role in foreign drug smuggling were further illustrated by several international investigations in 2007. For example, cocaine shipments either destined for, or intercepted in, Australia were effected from both air passengers and courier shipments (concealed in car parts and within alleged bath products), which originated in Canada.

Domestically, the lucrative nature of the drug trade often incites violence between criminal organizations when established zones of control are challenged by others. However, shifting dynamics within the illicit drug market in some regions are being observed: whereas once criminal organizations operated independently from one another, currently some organized crime groups are increasingly collaborating in response to demand and transportation needs and requirements.

The increasing cooperation among Canadian criminal organizations and their associates, as well as the extent of their established international networks, was demonstrated by an investigation that expanded into several countries, including the United States, Australia, New Zealand, China, and India. Concluded in 2007, this multi-agency investigation into an international and domestic polydrug trafficking network operating from B.C. and Ontario resulted in seizures equating to approximately 393 kilograms of cocaine made at Canadian borders within the span of one year.

Once smuggled into the country, cocaine is trafficked from the Pacific region to other western provinces, while the central provinces of Quebec and Ontario have been identified as supplying the user population in the Maritimes. Although various transportation methods such as the use of domestic flights, courier companies and passenger coaches (buses) have been well documented in the delivery of cocaine to various locations within Canada, there has been a noted increase in the use of passenger vehicles and commercial transportation trucks with false compartments along major highways.

Major seizures

Marine seizures destined for Canada

• In June, 226 kilograms of cocaine were seized from a sailboat in the Bahamas and one Canadian was arrested. The vessel left from the Dominican Republic and was destined for Canada.
• In August, 88.23 kilograms of cocaine were seized in Venezuela from a marine container. The cocaine was concealed in 12 boxes of floor tiles. The marine vessel's final destination was the Port of Halifax in Nova Scotia, whereas the tile shipment was destined for Quebec.

Seizures intercepted either at Canadian ports of entry (POE) or in-land

• In February, Halton Regional Police Service discovered 205 kilograms of cocaine concealed inside a commercial shipment of carrots and carrot juice in a tractor-trailer in Milton, Ontario. It is suspected that the cocaine shipment originated in the United States and entered Canada via the Windsor Ambassador Bridge POE.
• In February, approximately 147 kilograms of cocaine were intercepted at the Windsor Ambassador Bridge by CBSA officers. The cocaine was concealed within a shipment of mixed produce from California in a tractor-trailer.

Cocaine seizures transiting the U.S. en route to Canada

• In August, 119 kilograms of cocaine were seized in Illinois from a rented passenger vehicle that originated in Los Angeles, California, and was destined for Montreal.
• In September, 166 kilograms of cocaine were seized in San Diego, California, resulting in the arrest of a Canadian. The cocaine shipment originated in Mexico, transited the United States and was destined for the province of Quebec.

How much role do BC Sikhs have in this set-up?

[jgill]

jgill,

It's funny you still haven't figured out that oranges are not apples.

Renu attacks Sikh community when it is the punjabi community, which happens to follow punjabi culture.

Your ignorance is truely bliss man.

Go lay down and when your calm come back and write something that is reasonable.

lol so non of these ppl are sikhs, non of them so your one of those idiots who say's if your not gursikh your not sikh, or if you cut your hair your not sikh lol yet ppl like you expose your hypocracy and stupidity when you guys claim ranjit singh and kartar singh as sikhs

but according to your definition of sikhs then you should believe sikhs never had an empire only punjabis under ranjit singh did and that the most famous freedom fighters against the british like kartar singh and udham singh were punjabi not sikhs, thats what you should believe and tell others dumb as you to believe

but me i believe these guys were sikhs

but like i said its idiots like you and your thinking who run the gurdwaras and why more sikh youth are falling away from sikhi rather then towards sikhi, then you guys are dumb enough to think your getting khalistan at the rate your going at

[jgill]

Why is the lady not looking at the root of the problem. You were trying to project rich parents as being root problem. While you have been clearly provided with the root of the problem. But your myopic view cannot see beyond your own neighbourhood. Nor can the lady see it. Perhaps she was jealous seeing her Sikh neighbours teen driving a beemer.

your dumb learn to read, and sikhs being successfull is a great thing and the problem isn't rich parants, the problem is spoiled kids

so your saying all these priniples and teachers who come to the same conclusion as this article are stupid?????

when you have the top cops saying the problem with indo canadian gangs is spoiled children and teachers and principles saying its spoiled kids then why would you be dumb enough to think its something else

let me show how dumb your way of thinking is, your thinking is if drugs are available ppl are goign to get involved cause the trade is available

well rat poison is available why don't ppl eat rat poison

[jgill]

this article says our community is producing alot of drug dealing gangsters, and unfortanatly loads of drug addicts

these kids parants are sikhs and alot of their parants are gursikh, so if you don't want to call these kids sikh well their parants our and its a problem if these parants lack paranting skills and raise drug dealers/drug addicts

this article points at our paranting skills as being cause of the problem

things like spoiling boys, favoring boys over girls, celeberating when boy is born crying when girl is born, forgetting to disipline our kids, now its not all parants cause alot of parants know how to raise kids but many in our community lack the skills

this article points at are paranting being the biggest cause for the problems in our community

for all the idiots who thought it attacked sikhism since you can't point at were she attacks sikhism you just showed how dumb you are

[jgill]

Why is the lady not looking at the root of the problem. You were trying to project rich parents as being root problem. While you have been clearly provided with the root of the problem. But your myopic view cannot see beyond your own neighbourhood. Nor can the lady see it. Perhaps she was jealous seeing her Sikh neighbours teen driving a beemer.

http://citizen.nfb.c...ssier_nid=21339

the documantry is called warrior boys, seems like everyone accept idiots like you agree its our paranting thats causing the trouble were facing

if your saying cause drugs and gangs are all around us that is the reason ppl are going to join, lol then why doesn't everyone join, rat poision is available why doesn't everyone do rat poison????? answer this question before talking again

ill even answer this question but wanna see your answer, reason ppl don't do rat poison is they know it will kill them, their educated on this subject hence stay away

now if parants didn't spoil their kids or let them have to much free time and educated their kids on the consquences of drugs and gangs and disiplin their kids and stay involved in their lives, they wouldn't have time and would know the consquences of getting in with gangs and drugs and would stay away from this lifestyle, now their would be a very few for whatever reason that will still get involved but 98% will stay away

parants need to instill confidence in their kids teach them how to set goals how to give themselves purpose in life which will give them the fire and passion to reach their goals, teach them how to have a work ethic and disipline them and have their childrens trust were their kids can talk to them about anything

[apnepart2]

rat poison is not known to be used for getting a kick or gettin high for fun. It does not have same efffects as most drugs have on human brain or body, therefore people don't use it for having a good time. some people do consume it though, in india, for comitting suicide and it is still not proven if those who did this had any great feeling. Does rat poison has same effects as synthetic drugs or cocaine? As for spoilt kids what do sikhs have to do with it as a community? There are tonns of spoilt kids all around of different backgrounds. when parents don't spend time with child then he/she is very likley to get wrong in their life but to say they are gonna be gangesters now that is insane. There are lot of poor, poverty stricken people who are,barely able to earn a meal day in India, particularly Punjab, who are into drug trade. Who spolied them to become gangesters? One of the biggest Mafia/Gangester of Asia, Dawood Ibrahim, was born in a poor family as were all of the worlds famous gangesters. Read about Capone.

[Only five]

jgill,

It's funny you still haven't figured out that oranges are not apples.

Renu attacks Sikh community when it is the punjabi community, which happens to follow punjabi culture.

Your ignorance is truely bliss man.

Go lay down and when your calm come back and write something that is reasonable.

lol so non of these ppl are sikhs, non of them so your one of those idiots who say's if your not gursikh your not sikh, or if you cut your hair your not sikh lol yet ppl like you expose your hypocracy and stupidity when you guys claim ranjit singh and kartar singh as sikhs

but according to your definition of sikhs then you should believe sikhs never had an empire only punjabis under ranjit singh did and that the most famous freedom fighters against the british like kartar singh and udham singh were punjabi not sikhs, thats what you should believe and tell others dumb as you to believe

but me i believe these guys were sikhs

but like i said its idiots like you and your thinking who run the gurdwaras and why more sikh youth are falling away from sikhi rather then towards sikhi, then you guys are dumb enough to think your getting khalistan at the rate your going at

More nonsense from a this guy. I told you man leave the anger out. Calling us names will not help your case, neither is your reasoning helping right now, but you seem to think so it is.

Define for us the difference between GurSikh and Sikh as you have done in your post. And then present Gurbani to back up these claims.

Also you keep saying our community. Define this for us aswell. Who are you refering to as 'our community'?

I hope your able to respond to these questions and bring up actual references for the first one. If not then the four or 5 pages of your post are just jargon and a rant.

Ranjit Singh this Ranjit that, why don't you go a learn the true history and then come back and give us a lecture on what kind of Sikh Ranjit was aswell as Kartar Singh and the rest you named.

FOr your own satisfication you are demeaning Gurbani, the True word. If you want to be a Sikh of your mind then go right ahead, but don't try to justify weak actions by saying Sikhi allows it or you are Sikh.

Open a new topic labeled Gursikh and Sikh if different in Gurbani and we can see what we come up with.

[jgill]

jgill,

It's funny you still haven't figured out that oranges are not apples.

Renu attacks Sikh community when it is the punjabi community, which happens to follow punjabi culture.

Your ignorance is truely bliss man.

Go lay down and when your calm come back and write something that is reasonable.

lol so non of these ppl are sikhs, non of them so your one of those idiots who say's if your not gursikh your not sikh, or if you cut your hair your not sikh lol yet ppl like you expose your hypocracy and stupidity when you guys claim ranjit singh and kartar singh as sikhs

but according to your definition of sikhs then you should believe sikhs never had an empire only punjabis under ranjit singh did and that the most famous freedom fighters against the british like kartar singh and udham singh were punjabi not sikhs, thats what you should believe and tell others dumb as you to believe

but me i believe these guys were sikhs

but like i said its idiots like you and your thinking who run the gurdwaras and why more sikh youth are falling away from sikhi rather then towards sikhi, then you guys are dumb enough to think your getting khalistan at the rate your going at

More nonsense from a this guy. I told you man leave the anger out. Calling us names will not help your case, neither is your reasoning helping right now, but you seem to think so it is.

Define for us the difference between GurSikh and Sikh as you have done in your post. And then present Gurbani to back up these claims.

Also you keep saying our community. Define this for us aswell. Who are you refering to as 'our community'?

I hope your able to respond to these questions and bring up actual references for the first one. If not then the four or 5 pages of your post are just jargon and a rant.

Ranjit Singh this Ranjit that, why don't you go a learn the true history and then come back and give us a lecture on what kind of Sikh Ranjit was aswell as Kartar Singh and the rest you named.

FOr your own satisfication you are demeaning Gurbani, the True word. If you want to be a Sikh of your mind then go right ahead, but don't try to justify weak actions by saying Sikhi allows it or you are Sikh.

Open a new topic labeled Gursikh and Sikh if different in Gurbani and we can see what we come up with.

i have read history far better then you

tell me if ranjit singh kartar singh udham singh where sikhs, even though 2 of these men cut their hair and ranjit singh drank had many wives and ate meat

then tell me how you can call the family's and the children involved in these problems that the article points at as punjabis and not sikhs if you consider kartar singh udham singh ranjit singh to be sikhs??

cause right now im making you feel like a hypocrite, but answer these questions since i asked you earlier the same questions if you consider these men sikhs and if so how you can call anyone else a non sikh and rather a punjabi for cutting their hair or drinking or eating meat or whatever

cause if you can call ranjit singh udham singh kartar singh sikhs then your a dumb hypocrite for saying someone else isn't as sikh cause they drink or cut their hair

but yes are these men sikhs?

[Only five]

jgill,

It's funny you still haven't figured out that oranges are not apples.

Renu attacks Sikh community when it is the punjabi community, which happens to follow punjabi culture.

Your ignorance is truely bliss man.

Go lay down and when your calm come back and write something that is reasonable.

lol so non of these ppl are sikhs, non of them so your one of those idiots who say's if your not gursikh your not sikh, or if you cut your hair your not sikh lol yet ppl like you expose your hypocracy and stupidity when you guys claim ranjit singh and kartar singh as sikhs

but according to your definition of sikhs then you should believe sikhs never had an empire only punjabis under ranjit singh did and that the most famous freedom fighters against the british like kartar singh and udham singh were punjabi not sikhs, thats what you should believe and tell others dumb as you to believe

but me i believe these guys were sikhs

but like i said its idiots like you and your thinking who run the gurdwaras and why more sikh youth are falling away from sikhi rather then towards sikhi, then you guys are dumb enough to think your getting khalistan at the rate your going at

More nonsense from a this guy. I told you man leave the anger out. Calling us names will not help your case, neither is your reasoning helping right now, but you seem to think so it is.

Define for us the difference between GurSikh and Sikh as you have done in your post. And then present Gurbani to back up these claims.

Also you keep saying our community. Define this for us aswell. Who are you refering to as 'our community'?

I hope your able to respond to these questions and bring up actual references for the first one. If not then the four or 5 pages of your post are just jargon and a rant.

Ranjit Singh this Ranjit that, why don't you go a learn the true history and then come back and give us a lecture on what kind of Sikh Ranjit was aswell as Kartar Singh and the rest you named.

FOr your own satisfication you are demeaning Gurbani, the True word. If you want to be a Sikh of your mind then go right ahead, but don't try to justify weak actions by saying Sikhi allows it or you are Sikh.

Open a new topic labeled Gursikh and Sikh if different in Gurbani and we can see what we come up with.

i have read history far better then you

tell me if ranjit singh kartar singh udham singh where sikhs, even though 2 of these men cut their hair and ranjit singh drank had many wives and ate meat

then tell me how you can call the family's and the children involved in these problems that the article points at as punjabis and not sikhs if you consider kartar singh udham singh ranjit singh to be sikhs??

cause right now im making you feel like a hypocrite, but answer these questions since i asked you earlier the same questions if you consider these men sikhs and if so how you can call anyone else a non sikh and rather a punjabi for cutting their hair or drinking or eating meat or whatever

cause if you can call ranjit singh udham singh kartar singh sikhs then your a dumb hypocrite for saying someone else isn't as sikh cause they drink or cut their hair

but yes are these men sikhs?

What don't you get it's not about you or me or another person. This is about SIkhi, Guru Sahib and how Shabad Guru defines a Sikh. I can't put it any other way and in such plain and simple english.

Again not about you or me. Get that straight and then answer the question. Tell us where in Gurbani SIkh and Gursikh are differentiated. Because in your post you differentiate them and this is completely writing against Sikhi. If you consider yourself a Sikh then you would consult Guru Sahib before making such of a statement and going against Gurbani. As this is an insult to Gurbani and distorting it. Remember what happened to one of Guru Sahib son for changing the mean of Gurbani for a Muslim.

If you are a Sikh of the Guru then you would stop this nonsense and have the integrity to act like one.