Shameless Uk Sikhs

[chupchapiti]

it is very humiliating when we see sikhs/sardaars cheering for India and tell us to forget about 1984. The hindustani proud Sikhs just dont seem to care about Sikhi, they are the ones who support bollywood movies in which they make mockery of sikh image. Its because of "them" we can't unite, boycott everything "hindustani" and be true Sikhs. I am sorry but i have no love for india at all. Alright there are so many historical Gurdwara sahibs there, Punjab is part of post-paritition india. But if you think about it, Gurdwara sahibs are in pakistan too, Why shouldnt we support Pakistan then, and what about the anand karaj marriage act? Sikhs could register their marriage under Anand Karaj act in Pakistan but in India, it has to be under Hindu Act!!

Sant Ji used to say We cant fight for our freedom untill we dont realize our slavery. Unfortunately, Majority of Sikhs , esp the ones in India, are proud indians, they dont care or wanna care about sikhi, so they dont care about any bejti of a sikh either. They dont understand the meaning of a dastaar, of Guru Jis baksheya hoea saroop. It is because of them, we cant be One and fight for our freedom in India.

All these things that happen in India - Beadbi of Guru Sahib, Jhoote baabe, Insult of Sikh image in movies, everything- its all Guru jis Hukam, its a wake call to These "proud indian" sikhs, For them to wake up and realize their origin and understand how their slaves to india. Till they dont realize they are not gonna understand the meaning of khalistan, the meaning of a dastaar, the value of Amrit and Sikhi. But we must do parchaar of Sikhi and keep working on bringing the truth in front of them.

[Southall Youth]

Last point to mention - Let's not forget how we have been fooled time and again to fight with Mughals/Muslims as our end-goal - This is the example cited in movie "GADAR". Just research who made it - what was the motive of this movie? Which year this movie was released and what it was trying to portray to Sikhs?

This is happening again - We will be made to clash with Muslims/Pakistan with slogans "Bole So Nihal ..." as in this Video of celebration is showing and who will suffer casulaties on both sides? (Sikhs of Punjab, and Muslims of Punjab/Pakistan) and then RAJ to Hindustan with slogan "Jan Gan Man ..."

Bro you speak 110% truth!

I seen that gaddar years back and how he does a tikka and says abh yeh hogi sikhni to the woman - obvioulsy film was made by a Sharma Bhaman to shows us as defenders of Hindus ,anti Muslim and Hindus ourselves.

There is a growing trend in the UK of playing us against the Muslims, you never hear of any Bhamans/Gujratis and so on having conflict only our lot ,as the bhamans play it clever on both sides and we as usual fight their battles without knowing - Waving Nishan Sahibs and Indian Flags with Jakaras sends out the message that we are '''indian''' and if the paks want conflict we are the biggest target and will always be fools and fight the battle of the bhaman - the biggest problem in the UK in regards to asian community relations

[VanHelsingh]

A few of us also snatched off indian flags from full keshdhari/amritdhari sikhs...

What's up with that?!? They should know better than to get whipped up into "national" fervour.

[Southall Youth]

The freshies are going to be assimilated within three generations as are the families that accept them into marriage

However raising Khanda flags is nonsense these iditos dont understand the reason they have had to migrate in the first place so let me be the first to say India are welcome to them as they dont belong in the panth anyway

amen to that bro,on the assimilation issue it will take generations most use the UK and go back and forth, sad thing is even some UK Sikh girls are going out with them then they get used and left.

The people on these marches have no concept of Sikh Nationalism or Sikh Raaj ,to them they fly high the flag which destroyed Sri Akal Takht Sahib......I think all the Sikh Channels should show that video of why Sikhs should not support India then show the celebrations and ask where are we headed to as a community??

[KhalistaniGunMan]

What's up with that?!? They should know better than to get whipped up into "national" fervour.

Its very sad but the truth...there are amritdharis out their who still pay their allegiances to india...they were not from the youth...they were older singhs ...but the fools should know better

[chupchapiti]

Bro you speak 110% truth!

I seen that gaddar years back and how he does a tikka and says abh yeh hogi sikhni to the woman - obvioulsy film was made by a Sharma Bhaman to shows us as defenders of Hindus ,anti Muslim and Hindus ourselves.

There is a growing trend in the UK of playing us against the Muslims, you never hear of any Bhamans/Gujratis and so on having conflict only our lot ,as the bhamans play it clever on both sides and we as usual fight their battles without knowing - Waving Nishan Sahibs and Indian Flags with Jakaras sends out the message that we are '''indian''' and if the paks want conflict we are the biggest target and will always be fools and fight the battle of the bhaman - the biggest problem in the UK in regards to asian community relations

Speaking of the movie "Gadar" It was a big hit in Punjab, I remember it so well the sikhs in punjab were soo excited when it came out, They didnt see anything wrong with a Tara "singh" coverting to Islam for a girl & it was a big deal when he had to say "hindustan murdabad"...

Thats exactly where the mentality of proud indian sikhs come from. Now if you ask them, Did Guru Gobind Singh make His Singhs like this tara singh in the movie? The real singhs were those who got their skulls pull apart, got cut limb by limb, got boiled alive but didnt give up their Sikhi, their Love for Guru ji...and this tara singh converted for this Islamic girl, what kind of singh is he/?

we could find many distorted characters of sikhs in bollywood movies, but its really disheartening when our own sikh people go watch these kinda movies in the theatres then expect their kids to know about sikhi and have love and respect for Sikhi..

[JasSinghKhalsa]

Speaking of the movie "Gadar" It was a big hit in Punjab, I remember it so well the sikhs in punjab were soo excited when it came out, They didnt see anything wrong with a Tara "singh" coverting to Islam for a girl & it was a big deal when he had to say "hindustan murdabad"...

Thats exactly where the mentality of proud indian sikhs come from. Now if you ask them, Did Guru Gobind Singh make His Singhs like this tara singh in the movie? The real singhs were those who got their skulls pull apart, got cut limb by limb, got boiled alive but didnt give up their Sikhi, their Love for Guru ji...and this tara singh converted for this Islamic girl, what kind of singh is he/?

we could find many distorted characters of sikhs in bollywood movies, but its really disheartening when our own sikh people go watch these kinda movies in the theatres then expect their kids to know about sikhi and have love and respect for Sikhi..

In additon to that, the movie shows a "Jatt Sikh" fighting with Muslims, killing Pakistanis/Muslims from start to end. Why does it not shows a Baniya/Brahman/Marathi/Gujrati/Telegu/Kannad etc. etc. fighting with Pakistanis/Muslims?

Ques : What pshychological message this carries to Muslims/Pakistanis?

Answer : Your main enemy is Sikhs, when ever there is a real fight, consider Sikhs to be your prime enemy as shown in the movie "How a Sikh is targetting and killing Muslims during Partition of 1947 and then after entering Pakistan, killing Pakistanis." Kill Sikhs at large as they are anyway distinguishable and a real threat to you.

Ques : What pshychological message this carries to Sikhs?

Answer : Your main cause and interest is to fight with Muslims/Pakistanis, to divert Sikhs attention from the very recent shock of 1984 Genocide and divert their energy/animosity/aggression towards Pakistan and Muslims, fight and do all the blood shed with Muslims and Pakistan. We will hail you when you fight with Pakistan/Muslims similar to how we are raising slogans of "Bole So Nihal ..." in the Cinema Theatre when we see a Sikh "Tara Singh" uprooting a HAND-PUMP or when 1 Sikh is fighting with a crowd of 20-50-100 people.

And this is this false hailing which most of the times creates a false euphoria among the emotional and foolish Youth (SIkhs mostly - as Sikhs are the most stupid and biggest political fools of 21st century - If any doubt, we can start a seperate thread on just this very topic).

So, what's the Agenda? The agenda is to make and keep Sikhs and Muslims/Pakistanis fighting with each other for centuries and centuries (whether in the subcontinent or in the Western World) and this serves the Brahmin Political Agenda & Gameplan... This is a very old game, nothing new ... This is happening since Guru Arjan Dev's Jee's time, the lesson is we have learnt nothing ...

[genie]

My assessment of it is because no matter how bad Indian government is, India still has more Sikhs within the land than Pakistan. And Pakistani Muslims are ultra nationalistic they tend to hate non-muslims and non-pakistani's. So most Sikhs side with the devil they know best (ie India). When Pakistan wins or have their independence day they always try to attack Sikhs and target majority Sikh area's for their celebrations in deliberate act of provocations so they themselves have alienated Sikhs from being neutral. Their are also some UK Indian and bengali muslims who side with Pakistani's to hate on non-muslims also.

Therefore you can not blame some or most Sikhs for celebrating when Pakistan is defeated or when India wins. so its upon Muslims to get wise stop hating on Sikhs and associating them with India or going to Sikh area's and festivals/mela's to looking for trouble before you will get most Sikhs ending their support for India in these kind of events.

[dalsingh101]

That's a fair point genie. I know Muslims from where I used to live used to go to Southall/West London in droves on celebrations that they had no business with. Mainly because they saw Sikh girls as 'easy'. This has been going on for 20 odd years.

Everyone knows how Muslims 'gatecrash' Sikh events. Plus straight up, when Paks celebrate anything they try to do it in an aggressive, intimidating way for nonPaks/muslims.

I was glad India won yesterday. Not because I'm an Indian patriot or even a big fan of cricket, but rather because it meant that the local paks wouldn't be out and about making trouble on the streets around here as they are prone to do when they get excited.

People need to clock, elements from from Hindustan AND Pakistan are vehemently anti Sikh. It's no use ignoring one or the other.

[dashmesh1984]

these celebrations are disgusting shame on the Sikhs participating even tho most of the people look non-Sikh

good thing there was none of this crap were i live i woulda beat the <banned word filter activated> out of anyone Sikh holding the indian flag..