Naamdhari Baba Shot Dead

[BiggChan]

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story/1984-riots-witness-pressurised-to-save-sajjan-kumar/1/135267.html

[BiggChan]

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/namdhari-murder-hanspal-defends-sect-but-mum-on-charge-against-chiefs-nephew/775843/

[Cisco_Singh]

Namdharis are hindus just go on their websites they get married around a fire ,they do havan ,they even burn angs of gurbani they believe in devis and are cool with radhaswamis basically they are a cult whos aim is to hinduize Sikhs

I;ve been waiting for this day for years about time they killed each other off their Guru just dont seem to die even though he cant go for a s***

Thats a quite harsh and out of context post... Ols School Nihangs also used to do Havans, there is loads of verses in various Sikk Scripture which talks about Devis..Dasam Granth in particular...Chandi Di Vaar etc, There is an important and undeiable link between the martial aspects of Sikhi and the respect for devis (forms of Akaal Purakhs Shakti), Another example is Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Battle Standard held at Hazur Sahib the Asth Bhuja Dhuja.

Now I dont personally agree with the Naamdharis ideoligy of continued lineage of Guruship...I think it's completely out of order to misrepresent Guru Gobind Singh Ji's character in the way they have, saying he lived in isolation for several years etcc...They themselves will now begn to struggle as the time gap iuncreases while they wait fot Ram Singh to return...it's already looking more or less impossible,

Historically they made a lot of sacrifices during the freedom struggle a lot of Naamdharis became shaheed. They also could teach a fair few mainstream Gyanis a thing or two about Raag Vidiya and Gurmat Sangeet, theyre knowledge of traditional indian classical music and Kirtan is superior to most mainstream gianis.

They also do tremendous amounts of Naam Simran and mediation, a lot more than I do and probably more than a fair few members here

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Thats a quite harsh and out of context post... Ols School Nihangs also used to do Havans, there is loads of verses in various Sikk Scripture which talks about Devis..Dasam Granth in particular...Chandi Di Vaar etc, There is an important and undeiable link between the martial aspects of Sikhi and the respect for devis (forms of Akaal Purakhs Shakti), Another example is Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Battle Standard held at Hazur Sahib the Asth Bhuja Dhuja.

Now I dont personally agree with the Naamdharis ideoligy of continued lineage of Guruship...I think it's completely out of order to misrepresent Guru Gobind Singh Ji's character in the way they have, saying he lived in isolation for several years etcc...They themselves will now begn to struggle as the time gap iuncreases while they wait fot Ram Singh to return...it's already looking more or less impossible,

Historically they made a lot of sacrifices during the freedom struggle a lot of Naamdharis became shaheed. They also could teach a fair few mainstream Gyanis a thing or two about Raag Vidiya and Gurmat Sangeet, theyre knowledge of traditional indian classical music and Kirtan is superior to most mainstream gianis.

They also do tremendous amounts of Naam Simran and mediation, a lot more than I do and probably more than a fair few members here

The amount of naam simran they do is between them and waheguru...the amount of beadbi of sikhi they do is between us and them...we have no problem with the amount of naam simran they do...but they should know this if they challenge sikhi and attempt to distort it..then we have a major problem..theyre near enough being kept alive by massive handouts from the central government...once the khalsa raj comes their false organistaion will fall away into the history books like every other fake gurudom which came..they are no different from them!!

[Only five]

Thats a quite harsh and out of context post... Ols School Nihangs also used to do Havans, there is loads of verses in various Sikk Scripture which talks about Devis..Dasam Granth in particular...Chandi Di Vaar etc, There is an important and undeiable link between the martial aspects of Sikhi and the respect for devis (forms of Akaal Purakhs Shakti), Another example is Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Battle Standard held at Hazur Sahib the Asth Bhuja Dhuja.

Show us which devi Satguru respected? Satguru respects the shakti of Akal Purakh not the devi that misused the power. The devis are not the shakti, but the forms that got lost in maya by miss using the shakti Akal Purakh gave them. They had the shakti, but that does not mean Satguru respected them. Satguru calls Krishna words which will be hurtful to the ears that respect him.

They also do tremendous amounts of Naam Simran and mediation, a lot more than I do and probably more than a fair few members here

This is such a shame the word Naam Simran is being abused. Naam Simran is something that a person gets after following the Satguru. The Naamdaris don't follow the Satguru, they follow dedhari gurus, which are not the Satguru, so all they are doing is rituals. Without the Satguru there is no Naam Simran.

[genie]

what baffles me is these low-level daft next level pakhandi baba get taken out yet those who killed Sikhs in 1984 are still alive and laughing at their victims. What is going on? internal feud? money/land/power motives? All i see whats going on in Punjabi politics is petty fights and killings yet those who committed serious crimes against humanity by UN standards are walking around freely in India.

If you want to take out an enemy of Sikhism the prime target should always be those who committed terrorism against the Sikhs (ie Sajjan kumar and the rest of the congressi mob not forgetting any remaining indian army officials who dared to stormed darbar sahib 1984, 1987). These are criminal terrorists who desecrated our holiest of shrines murdered countless innocents.....I dont think I would be wrong to suggest majority of 30 million strong Sikh community wants to see them lot sent to hell and would be praise those brave enough to take then out.

[clarity]

Any religion relationship friendship cult or organisation built upon manipulation and lies will eventually unravel, as all of the participants although willing to go along can sense deep inside the fact that what they are doing is wrong no matter how brainwashed when they come across something contradictory to their beliefs which challenges their viewpoint it forces their brain to rethink its stance and survival so their belief in God as truth but the cult they follow being a wrong one their self survival switch will go off and then they will think hang on I believe in a scripture that tells me to live the truth yet I am lying to myself the organisation will collapse.

Hence Sikhism cannot be destroyed as long as we have guru ji and correct translations and interpretations and Sikhs who live the ultimate truth there is no guilt and self hate that is why all gursikhs give off an aura you will not find in any other religion

That is why you will get people all of the time attempting to modify or teachings add new teachings or gurus or rediscover something we havent learned about in the Guru Granth Sahib ji which is the ultimate teacher and will always be you will also get people trying to challenge our religion because if we give them an inch they will take a yard so if you want to save the next generation when an <banned word filter activated> says lets debate always remember we have the guru granth sahib which is the ultimate truth for all time

WJKKWJKF

[saggu]

Even if you take the religious aspect out of it, murdering someone is really bad. I can't believe some people actually support it.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Even if you take the religious aspect out of it, murdering someone is really bad. I can't believe some people actually support it.

killing an innocent person is bad...but the elimination of a cruel tyrannical man is righteous..no doubt about that...

[saggu]

But I don't think this 57 year old was a threat to anyone. I'm still shocked that people support this killing.