IS is gurmat????

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

so if we dont belive in water having special ability, wat the heck happened to ram das sarovar?

and y do we drink water when we take amrit?

cause we thirsty or something?

y does it become amrit??

banis are a big part of it

whenever we see something, isnt that a ritual???

so then baba nand singh je was wrong for taking food to guru granth sahib je too?

and were all wrong for doin chaur sahib, as that might be considered rituals to some people too

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[singh_khalsa]

every time discussion of Dukhbhanjni sahib comes up im told by certain people there is no such bani written by the guru's

But if this bani does exist where can you find it?

[Guest mehtab]

http://www.gurdwaramidhudson.org/gurfiles/...%20Gurmukhi.pdf

[justlearning]

I AGREE WITH KHALISTANI.

AND it is gurmat, when you do bani, water does become amrit.

Dont come into science, and dont think too much, just have FAITH thats all,

one thing we lack = faith

[AK-47]

Also, it seems to be the same thing which AKAL TAKHAT banned.......if u remember people use to receite japji sahib during the whole akandPathh sahib which is total manmat and banned by akal takhat.

Huh?!?!?!?!?! Reading Japji Sahib is now considered manmat?!?! since when?

how is reading Japji Sahib Next to Akhand Path total manmat?? Since whne did reading more gurbani ever become anti-sikhi???

I really hope that this was some sort of error brother, because from what singhs have told me, akhand paths have always traditionally been done with at least 5 singhs present, One doing langar seva, one doing security ie peradhar, another to serve parshad, one doing akhand path sahib di rohl while the 5th does the japji sahib da path.

many people/places dnt do the japji sahib any longer, which is up to them i suppose, but Guru Ji's kirpa for the main akhand path in our gurdwara sahib japji sahib is always read.

im in shock to hear that this has been called manmat!! next the akal takhat will simply ban reading gurbani fullstop, its already down to 3 bani'a, soon we can expect something along the lines of, just say gods name once a day and that'll be enough, but oh yes pls could all butchers state whether or not their meat is halal or chatka, since that is such a big issue for the sikhs this yr!!

[Jaspaul Singh]

Also, it seems to be the same thing which AKAL TAKHAT banned.......if u remember people use to receite japji sahib during the whole akandPathh sahib which is total manmat and banned by akal takhat.

Huh?!?!?!?!?! Reading Japji Sahib is now considered manmat?!?! since when?

how is reading Japji Sahib Next to Akhand Path total manmat?? Since whne did reading more gurbani ever become anti-sikhi???

I really hope that this was some sort of error brother, because from what singhs have told me, akhand paths have always traditionally been done with at least 5 singhs present, One doing langar seva, one doing security ie peradhar, another to serve parshad, one doing akhand path sahib di rohl while the 5th does the japji sahib da path.

many people/places dnt do the japji sahib any longer, which is up to them i suppose, but Guru Ji's kirpa for the main akhand path in our gurdwara sahib japji sahib is always read.

im in shock to hear that this has been called manmat!! next the akal takhat will simply ban reading gurbani fullstop, its already down to 3 bani'a, soon we can expect something along the lines of, just say gods name once a day an

d that'll be enough, but oh yes pls could all butchers state whether or not their meat is halal or chatka, since that is such a big issue for the sikhs this yr!!

Remember that also sant ji use to do sri japji sahib da paath 52 times a day !! :wub:

[Balwinder Singh]

I dunno much so please excuse me for my mistakes.

Sometime I fail to understand the purpose of sri akhandpathh sahib.

1. Is it done so that people listen to it and understand gurbani.

OR

2. Is it done just as "mantars(sorry for using this term, but i cant think of any other)" to purify something(some place or some ceremony).

If it is done for reason 1 then why do we read japji sahib ji along with akhandpathh sahib, as people who wanna listen will get confused.Also, if japji sahib is doe quitely then the person doing japji sahib will be missing guru's message.

If it is done for the reason number 2 then whats the difference between yag(by hindus)

and sri akandpathh sahib.

I am really sorry for making this comparison.I know its really offensive but I really donot understand this thing.

please forgive me for my lack of understanding.Please enlighten me.

[Balwinder Singh]

please answer!!!!!

[Guest noonespecial]

Veerji,

Please do not post things such as AKAL TAKHAT HAS BANNED DOING JAPUJI SAHIB PAAHT DURING AKHAND PAAHT, unless you can provide a link and solid evidence that they have done so.

I am not saying that Akal Takhat hasn't done this, because I honestly don't know. But you should really get your facts 100% correct before posting such things. I honestly don't see that negativity in doing Japuji Sahib paaht during an Akhaand Paaht, but if Akal Takhat has said so, then they MUST have a reason. In any case, please please post the link of the Akal Takhat Hukamnama. I think I recall a site which posted all of the Akal Takhat Hukamnamae...perhaps some other forum member can post a link.

Either way, please veerji, post a link or give solid evidence.

Thank you!

:nihungsmile:

[Balwinder Singh]

Veerji,

Please do not post things such as AKAL TAKHAT HAS BANNED DOING JAPUJI SAHIB PAAHT DURING AKHAND PAAHT, unless you can provide a link and solid evidence that they have done so.

I am not saying that Akal Takhat hasn't done this, because I honestly don't know. But you should really get your facts 100% correct before posting such things. I honestly don't see that negativity in doing Japuji Sahib paaht during an Akhaand Paaht, but if Akal Takhat has said so, then they MUST have a reason. In any case, please please post the link of the Akal Takhat Hukamnama. I think I recall a site which posted all of the Akal Takhat Hukamnamae...perhaps some other forum member can post a link.

Either way, please veerji, post a link or give solid evidence.

Thank you!

:nihungsmile:

Veer ji,

With Waheguru's grace I got the above mentioned hukam on the website of SGPC.

Please go to http://sgpc.net/rehat_maryada/section_thre..._chap_five.html and read the following in the Sri Akandpathh Sahib section:

c. Placing a pitcher, ceremoni

al clarified-butter-fed lamp, coconut, etc. around, during the course of the uninterrupted or any other reading of Guru Granth Sahib, or reading of other Scriptural texts side by side with or in the course of such reading is contrary to the gurmat (Guru's way).

I think this proof is enough.

Thanks for ur responses.