Jews And Sikhs

[Jonny101]

Reason for sikh boom was hindus raising one sikh

Not quite. The boom coincided with the start of the Singh Sabha movement.

[Guest KopSingh]

Reason for sikh boom was hindus raising one sikh

cmon mate r u taking the mick or wat? besides most of that hindu raisin eldest son as a sikh was dun by khatri's, not by other tribes. other tribes entire families converted 2 sikhi

[Astral]

"Some facts: The Jews have an independant State-Israel, what have we got ????

The creation of the state of Israel was supported by the West after WW2, by annexing Palestine, i.e. kicking out the Mulsims from there homes and giving them to the Jews (a strategic move by the West to have an influence within the Middle East). The justification was that this was the promised land for the Jews from God !!!!."

I've always wondered about this part in bold above. So one of the contributing justifications for the creation of Israel (apart from the obvious events of WWII) was because it was written in the Bible that Jews must have a homeland?

So they actually took a directive from God - from their perspective - and made it come true?

False. Zionists and other followers have committed sin for attempting to create pre-emptly a Jewish state before the arrival of their messiah. Zionists are so focused on power they commit sins, kill, in order to achieve there goals.

[genie]

Jews are wise people who were financially helped by conversion of the khazar nation ...who then become in essense fake jews (non-semite heritage). So to this day they are being controlled internal by a small kabal of khazari jews who work for political and financial interests of their famililes rather than wider communities strict religous judaistic interests. So end of the day if you want to wage war against enemy nation states you need financial resources.... the khazar jews have successully created banking family dynasties who can fund war chests against their enemies (at present arab muslim nations).

The Sikhs of the past were even more remarkable as they had hardly no financial resources or material goods to fend of the powerful beastly islamic invaders and rulers. They rose up from a pacifist faith to an effective awe inspiriing militarily fighting machine (the 10th master's formidable khalsa) that broke the back of the barbarous islamic on slaught into hind, the claims of islamic superiority were tested in the battlefields until defeat after defeat had humbled their wishes to face sikhs sword to sword let alone destory them. The mighty muslim armies of khorozan/afghanistan, mughuls (turkic mongols), persia soon realised the lionhearted Sikhs can not be defeated by discrimination, subjudgation, haressment or extreme force / violence. The Sikh armed misls would strategically hit the armies of islam until they were forced to let go the reins of power in nothern india and Sikhs were finally able to fill the void and expand their sphere of influence into kashmir, afghanistan and borders of tibet/china.

The decline came when Sikh rulers and military generals couldnt work together in government of unity and entrusted non-sikhs (ie dogra hindus) in powerful positions within authority who betrayed them by helping the invading british empire. They also couldnt defeat their ego's it was the ego of the Sikh that is his biggest enemy militarily..... if a Sikh can humble himself to another Sikh no power on earth can stop Sikhs unitying and having self rule again.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Johnny 101...5 kids is the goal for every gursikh...i have told all my friends who are yet to get married and even those who are married...to raise their children in gursikhi jeevan from young age...and that they should all aim for 5 children each....

[jss23]

Jews are wise people who were financially helped by conversion of the khazar nation ...who then become in essense fake jews (non-semite heritage). So to this day they are being controlled internal by a small kabal of khazari jews who work for political and financial interests of their famililes rather than wider communities strict religous judaistic interests. So end of the day if you want to wage war against enemy nation states you need financial resources.... the khazar jews have successully created banking family dynasties who can fund war chests against their enemies (at present arab muslim nations).

The Sikhs of the past were even more remarkable as they had hardly no financial resources or material goods to fend of the powerful beastly islamic invaders and rulers. They rose up from a pacifist faith to an effective awe inspiriing militarily fighting machine (the 10th master's formidable khalsa) that broke the back of the barbarous islamic on slaught into hind, the claims of islamic superiority were tested in the battlefields until defeat after defeat had humbled their wishes to face sikhs sword to sword let alone destory them. The mighty muslim armies of khorozan/afghanistan, mughuls (turkic mongols), persia soon realised the lionhearted Sikhs can not be defeated by discrimination, subjudgation, haressment or extreme force / violence. The Sikh armed misls would strategically hit the armies of islam until they were forced to let go the reins of power in nothern india and Sikhs were finally able to fill the void and expand their sphere of influence into kashmir, afghanistan and borders of tibet/china.

The decline came when Sikh rulers and military generals couldnt work together in government of unity and entrusted non-sikhs (ie dogra hindus) in powerful positions within authority who betrayed them by helping the invading british empire. They also couldnt defeat their ego's it was the ego of the Sikh that is his biggest enemy militarily..... if a Sikh can humble himself to another Sikh no power on earth can stop Sikhs unitying and having self rule again.

This is true. But mutual respect is gained from the Mughals when the warrior spirit was proven by us Sikhs. Because no man wants bloodshed. The Mughal's started to leave us alone when they knew these people are indeed true warriors of god. It's all love from there.

These Europeon invaders sure messed up all things around the globe without a doubt. And I certainly agree with you on the Ego part.

Check this out. It might a little biased.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

This is true. But mutual respect is gained from the Mughals when the warrior spirit was proven by us Sikhs. Because no man wants bloodshed. The Mughal's started to leave us alone when they knew these people are indeed true warriors of god. It's all love from there.

These Europeon invaders sure messed up all things around the globe without a doubt. And I certainly agree with you on the Ego part.

Check this out. It might a little biased.

wrong brother mughals left us alone because they were in decline..the afghan invasions, the endless attacks from marathas and countless years of guerilla war with sikhs had weakened them..mughals had no respect for anyone...however i agree with the part on europeans...they were the worst of the lot...they left nations and peoples in such a state that it would take them centuries to rebuild their civilisations to a first world standard...some may never achieve it because of the destruction the imperialists left

[VanHelsingh]

False. Zionists and other followers have committed sin for attempting to create pre-emptly a Jewish state before the arrival of their messiah. Zionists are so focused on power they commit sins, kill, in order to achieve there goals.

I never said that! :biggrin2:

I was merely asking the question for clarification. The way you've quoted the post makes it seem like I made the original statement - which I did not. Another forummer wrote everything up to and including the part in bold.

[genie]

This is true. But mutual respect is gained from the Mughals when the warrior spirit was proven by us Sikhs. Because no man wants bloodshed. The Mughal's started to leave us alone when they knew these people are indeed true warriors of god. It's all love from there.

These Europeon invaders sure messed up all things around the globe without a doubt. And I certainly agree with you on the Ego part.

Check this out. It might a little biased.

Thats an interesting video makes a good point, however wouldnt blame european invaders for all the ills of the world though they did alot of evil and harm but also some good in terms of trade & commerce, transport, refining technology, etc. If you look at britian it was a seen a small pagan island not worth anyones attention then came the invading roman empire and brutalised the population before taking it over and the civilisation of native british tribal localised pagans evolved over time to be more integrated and more like the romans seeking to conquer nations aboard.

[hgsingh]

What can sikhs learn from israel