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This is an amzing opportunity to raise the profile and much more awareness of this issue within the media, at the very least the local Leicester media. Lets not get bogged down with Amitabh Bachan, but try and use this opportunity to educate, educate, educate. But lets not fall into the trap of holding a protest which starts peaceful but turns aggressive in anyway, as thats all Keith Vaz will need to turn the situation against the Sikh community within the local media.

Lets ensure that the protest is more like a vigil (lots of candals) and lets do naam japna like in the Dudley protest. We are currently working on getting Amnesty International down to the event, they wont come if there is even a hint that it may turn into an aggressive protest. Getting them down will improve the chances of it hitting the mainstream media. Letters will also be written to all the MPs within Leicestershire and other faith leaders and bodies, again lets educate.

We are currently working with the local newspaper and news channels to get them down at the protest, therefore we need to ensure that we properly media manage the protest on the day. It needs to come across more as an awareness campaign more then a protest, best way to generate greater sympathy. Play the victims on the day and not the aggressors.

What do you want us to become sheep? and cry out for sympathy? We are lions and lions roar.

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Sikhs have always fought injustice and the treatment of minorities from 1947 - present only shows that sikh grievances against the indian government are justified. If I was the pm and as per your sce

What Bachchan did was to incite the ordinary person to join the government organised mobs. We all know the star power of indian actors. This actor had thousands of people outside the hospital when he

This is an amzing opportunity to raise the profile and much more awareness of this issue within the media, at the very least the local Leicester media. Lets not get bogged down with Amitabh Bachan, b

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What do you want us to become sheep? and cry out for sympathy? We are lions and lions roar.

Don't take this personal veer. This is a general comment.

It's best the lions who cover the faces stay at home on the day so that a sustainable campaign can be carried out. We've witnessed many of the lions who take it to another level run home after these protests and leave others to pick up the pieces.

This should be a series of serious transparent campaigns to raise awareness for those willing to show their faces and put their necks on the line. Our morchas need to be sustainable. It's about being a clever lion!

Great comment from Kaljugi

Lions are also occasionally outsmarted by the jackal. Aman made very valid points. Learn to pick and choose your battles.

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Keith Vaz has a bit of dodgy past himself. Google 'The Hinduja Brothers Keith Vaz' and you'll realise why. I'd be rather careful before we start placing trust in him to help Sikhs in this cause. I could be wrong, but he usually moves towards where there is prestige and power, and I'd think he's likely to defend Bachchan than speak against him.

Kieth vaz shouldnt be trusted at all, he supports violent political thugs like the UAF (BOGUS SO CALLED UNITE AGIANST FACISM) The uaf have been conatcted about attacks on Sikhs in Oldbury by Muslims, but they laughed.

Vaz also denies any racial element to the grooming of girls by Pakistani men.

As for Batchan he is the same Scum, he was close to the ghandis he had power, due his populairty, Tully writes he raised slogans in october 84, so i am all for this protest against Scum like Bachan and Vaz.

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It's so very important we remain peaceful and as said above focus on education alone!

I'm certain at some point the organisers will try to say that amitabh Bachan is not coming so as to get us to stop the protest...but as guests have paid as much as £100 each...he'll def coming!

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**The Protest IS Going Ahead**

This is a Peaceful Protest to Educate the public about Amitabh Bachchan and the November 1984 National Genocide.

Keith Vaz along with Amitabh Bachchan’s family and fans will be attending the Platinum Suite on Saturday. The Leicester police have informed Seva84 that Amitabh will not attend as he claims he will be ill on the day.

A meeting was called earlier today where it was agreed that the peaceful protest will still go ahead on the following grounds:

-The event in question... will still be going ahead with the presence of Amitabh’s family members and fans from all across the UK.

-MP Keith Vaz needs to be made aware that the Sikh community will protest the visit of any perpetrator of the 1984 Genocide against Sikhs (even if they have not been brought to trial yet)

-As the press will be present, this is an excellent opportunity to highlight Amitab’s role in 1984 to his fans, the public and the media that will be present.

Protest details will be posted on www.facebook.com/seva1984

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Protocol for Peaceful Protest 16 June 2012

Sikhs are requested to start gathering at the Platinum Suite, Cobden Street, Leicester LE1 2LB at 5.00pm – 7.30pm

All Sikhs attending are requested to note the following Protocol:

-Sikhs must respect and participate in the Naam Simiran, Mool Mantra, Chaupai Sahib Jaap that is intended to take place on the day, so that the Khalsa Panth receives blessings from Guru Ji.

- Intimidation, swearing or violent behaviour will NOT be tolerated. Do not come looking intimidating i.e., do not wear hoodies or any face coverings. No swearing will be permitted. Smart dresscode is preffered.

- Sikhs must show restraint and conduct themselves respectfully when addressing members of the public, the police or any attendees of the event. Do not engage in any arguments, direct difficult persons to the sevadars present at the protest.

-Sikh and non-Sikh media will be present for us to voice our concerns to the wider Community - we do not want to show the wider community we are violent, rather we would like to educate them on November 1984 in an articulate way.

- Support those Sevadaars who will be taking a lead on the day

We will get our message across through leaflets and placards. We want this protest to be remembered as “the protest that highlighted Amitabh Bachchan’s contribution to the November 1984 National Genocide”. We would also like MP Keith Vaz to also realise the distress his invitation to Amitabh has caused to the British Sikh community.

FINALLY, REMEMBER, you will be representing the roop of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj.

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"Smart dress code is mandatory". Don't have "preferred" because some will prefer not to dress smartly.

I assume it is to avoid the attire of those protesters who come with hoodies and face coverings.

As the event is likely to be a "stylish" and "posh" occasion perhaps a smart outlook would not be such a bad idea, but I wouldn't get too hung up on the point.

My trainers cost me more than my smart shoes...

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i dont think smart necessarily means expensive.

True however that if your dressed in joggers and trainers more likely to be classed as the "working feral class"

All about perception and people will be intrigued by seeing well dressed protestors.

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so sikhs killed the prime minister is that not a crime which these bodyguards need to be punished for? if some hindues killed a sikh leader surely all sikhs would incite their fellow to kill hindus..

It was a crime and they were punished but there were reasons behind their killing of a tyrant. Are you posting in all the forums about hitlers death and saddams death?

No for unlike you we wouldnt call for the death of all hindus but for people to be tried for their crimes. The singhs who recently killed that <banned word filter activated> from a dera handed themselves in to the police, whereas the masses who killed sikhs still go about there lives and try and forget. Lets you know who the lions though

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