Singh559 2,658 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Waheguru Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_singhni_ 142 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 just wanted to share something with sangat: even though the shooter was american its amazing to see how some white americans have shared our pain. I personally had a white american approach me at an airport in USA few days after the shooting, who apologised for our loss and said it shouldn't have ever happened. Just goes to show that our pain has/is been felt by other communities to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sikhreality 25 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 TRAGEDY IN WISCONSIN, ACTIONS FOR THE FUTURE Gurfateh I was shocked and saddened to hear of the attack by a mad gunman on a Gurdwara in the USA. I sincerely offer my condolences to the families of all those killed, pray for the speedy recovery and well being of all the injured and applaud the brave police men/women of Wisconsin who finally confronted and stopped the hate-filled fool responsible for the attack. On the day the news of this attack was filtering through I was, by sheer coincidence, teaching traditional Sikh methods of dealing with assailant’s armed with firearms confronting you in the street and in your home. Alas, if the brave Satwant Singh who tried so bravely to tackle the deranged assailant had had these martial skills of his Nihang ancestors, he might be alive today and the assailant subdued and in custody. Let me inform my Sikh brothers and sisters that within the original Sikh martial art, Shastar Vidiya, that I teach, alongside yudh vidiya (traditional combat skills), sava rakhsha (personal self defence), and gao rakhsha (village defence), I teach traditional greh rakhia (home defence) techniques, stratagems and tactics. I also have real world experience of dealing with firearms. Throughout our history, we Sikhs were known for our an incredible array of martial skills. It is a fact that centuries of facing foreign invaders honed our ancestors’ survival skills in these areas. On a recent trip to the USA the world renowned marksman, knife expert and hunter Lyn Thompson of Cold Steel, along with his crew, all of them experienced martial arts masters, had an opportunity to train in and assess Shastar Vidiya. They were basically amazed by its effectiveness and sophistication – click here to see their full assessment. The sad thing is that despite it’s obvious greatness, Shastar Vidiya is gaining more recognition outside the Sikh community than within it. Looking forwards, and noting the hostile climate faced by many Sikh communities in the USA and elsewhere, I plead with you to avail of this opportunity – let me share with you these traditional life saving skills and teachings of Nanak Guru Gobind Singh. For the Khalsa, just as Shabad is Guru, so equally are Shastar. If nothing else, accept this sewa of Shastar Vidiya from me, for this is your inheritance and you must reclaim it. To find out more, please email me via info@nidarsingh.com Gurfateh Das Sadh Sangat Nidar Singh Nihang. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny101 4,423 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 TRAGEDY IN WISCONSIN, ACTIONS FOR THE FUTURE Gurfateh I was shocked and saddened to hear of the attack by a mad gunman on a Gurdwara in the USA. I sincerely offer my condolences to the families of all those killed, pray for the speedy recovery and well being of all the injured and applaud the brave police men/women of Wisconsin who finally confronted and stopped the hate-filled fool responsible for the attack. On the day the news of this attack was filtering through I was, by sheer coincidence, teaching traditional Sikh methods of dealing with assailant’s armed with firearms confronting you in the street and in your home. Alas, if the brave Satwant Singh who tried so bravely to tackle the deranged assailant had had these martial skills of his Nihang ancestors, he might be alive today and the assailant subdued and in custody. Let me inform my Sikh brothers and sisters that within the original Sikh martial art, Shastar Vidiya, that I teach, alongside yudh vidiya (traditional combat skills), sava rakhsha (personal self defence), and gao rakhsha (village defence), I teach traditional greh rakhia (home defence) techniques, stratagems and tactics. I also have real world experience of dealing with firearms. Throughout our history, we Sikhs were known for our an incredible array of martial skills. It is a fact that centuries of facing foreign invaders honed our ancestors’ survival skills in these areas. On a recent trip to the USA the world renowned marksman, knife expert and hunter Lyn Thompson of Cold Steel, along with his crew, all of them experienced martial arts masters, had an opportunity to train in and assess Shastar Vidiya. They were basically amazed by its effectiveness and sophistication – click here to see their full assessment. The sad thing is that despite it’s obvious greatness, Shastar Vidiya is gaining more recognition outside the Sikh community than within it. Looking forwards, and noting the hostile climate faced by many Sikh communities in the USA and elsewhere, I plead with you to avail of this opportunity – let me share with you these traditional life saving skills and teachings of Nanak Guru Gobind Singh. For the Khalsa, just as Shabad is Guru, so equally are Shastar. If nothing else, accept this sewa of Shastar Vidiya from me, for this is your inheritance and you must reclaim it. To find out more, please email me via info@nidarsingh.com Gurfateh Das Sadh Sangat Nidar Singh Nihang. Perhaps if Mr Niddar Singh did not try to spread his Hindu agenda amongst the Sikhs, his martial art could have gained more wide acceptance amongst the Sikh community worldwide. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singh135 243 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 TRAGEDY IN WISCONSIN, ACTIONS FOR THE FUTURE Gurfateh I was shocked and saddened to hear of the attack by a mad gunman on a Gurdwara in the USA. I sincerely offer my condolences to the families of all those killed, pray for the speedy recovery and well being of all the injured and applaud the brave police men/women of Wisconsin who finally confronted and stopped the hate-filled fool responsible for the attack. On the day the news of this attack was filtering through I was, by sheer coincidence, teaching traditional Sikh methods of dealing with assailant’s armed with firearms confronting you in the street and in your home. Alas, if the brave Satwant Singh who tried so bravely to tackle the deranged assailant had had these martial skills of his Nihang ancestors, he might be alive today and the assailant subdued and in custody. Let me inform my Sikh brothers and sisters that within the original Sikh martial art, Shastar Vidiya, that I teach, alongside yudh vidiya (traditional combat skills), sava rakhsha (personal self defence), and gao rakhsha (village defence), I teach traditional greh rakhia (home defence) techniques, stratagems and tactics. I also have real world experience of dealing with firearms. Throughout our history, we Sikhs were known for our an incredible array of martial skills. It is a fact that centuries of facing foreign invaders honed our ancestors’ survival skills in these areas. On a recent trip to the USA the world renowned marksman, knife expert and hunter Lyn Thompson of Cold Steel, along with his crew, all of them experienced martial arts masters, had an opportunity to train in and assess Shastar Vidiya. They were basically amazed by its effectiveness and sophistication – click here to see their full assessment. The sad thing is that despite it’s obvious greatness, Shastar Vidiya is gaining more recognition outside the Sikh community than within it. Looking forwards, and noting the hostile climate faced by many Sikh communities in the USA and elsewhere, I plead with you to avail of this opportunity – let me share with you these traditional life saving skills and teachings of Nanak Guru Gobind Singh. For the Khalsa, just as Shabad is Guru, so equally are Shastar. If nothing else, accept this sewa of Shastar Vidiya from me, for this is your inheritance and you must reclaim it. To find out more, please email me via info@nidarsingh.com Gurfateh Das Sadh Sangat Nidar Singh Nihang. erm.. a little inappropriate at the current time? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny101 4,423 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 erm.. a little inappropriate at the current time? True, but when the situation arises you will always have opportunists(like niddar) trying to milk it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singh559 2,658 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Someone can teach you techniques and skills, but they can't teach you heart. A Singh I met from the UK who took some classes from him told me that. He keeps mixing non-Sikh sanatan views with his martial art which is something Sikhs will never accept as a whole. Marketing can only do so much. Sant Singh Maskeen talks about people with mat like Niddar Singh who still cling onto hindu mat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S1ngh 2,267 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Alas, if the brave Satwant Singh who tried so bravely to tackle the deranged assailant had had these martial skills of his Nihang ancestors, he might be alive today and the assailant subdued and in custody. Highly inappropriate to make such cheap public comment on Bhai Satwant Singh who gave up his life to protect others. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singh559 2,658 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Highly inappropriate to make such cheap public comment on Bhai Satwant Singh who gave up his life to protect others. Yeah. Niddar hasn't stood for anything or for anyone's rights. He's just all talk. He may know a little sastar vidiya, but he's empty in the head. Here's a true Nihang Singh who knows real battlefield arts. He lived and died a Singh standing up for righteousness: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sikhreality 25 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I shall confess it pains me greatly to read such comments, such is the weakness of my character. Nidar Singh Nihang has dedicated his life to learning this ancient and forgoten art, an art which our Great Guru's and Shaheed's practiced and lived by. An art which gave glory to the name of Singhs of old, their fearlessness was not just a firm belief in Dharam, common among all religious people, but a true knowledge of one's self through Shastarvidiya, the understanding that it brings is deep and only to be understood when experienced. From Gurdev Ji's early years he has trained, dedicating himself to excellence, training more than 12-14 hours daily with a Master who was known for being very heavy handed when teaching, this is no easy feat, in total honestly it is one of the hardest types of tapaysa. I myself have trained with Gurdev Nidar Singh Nihang, and I have spent months with my Gurbani teacher, Sant Giani Inderjit Singh Ji, while both require a great amount of discipline in mental focus and clarity, I find Shastarvidiya to be extremely more difficult because along with mental focus and learning comes the strengthening of the body with training, which usually consists of correctional beatings (blessings) to help teach certain movements. I spent a great deal of time learning from Sant Giani Inderjit Singh Ji, a very traditional sampradyik Giani, who's learning is very much unparalleled amongest the top foremost scholars. Before sitting down with Gurdev Nidar Singh I was skeptical thinking about how Nihungs would/could have a different viewpoint on Gurmat Sidhant when compared to the Nirmala scholars but was astonished about the similarities in viewpoint and metholodgy to understanding Gurbani and other historical scriptures. Gurdev Nidar Singh's knowledge of Gurbani also shocked me, while his martial prowess is known and now ackowledged world wide, with top martial artists in all fields paying respect to Gurdev Ji's skill and knowledge, his intimate understanding of Gurbani is kept secret and close to his heart. It is very easy to slander, swear, demonize and belittle Gurdev Nidar Singh Nihang simiply because of different views held, but I can guarantee you no one will ever match up to his discipline in training, his beautiful and firm character, and his intellect. His mission is only to spread the glory of the Guru's by showing the world the art in which our Guru's and Shaheed's were so great at. The world is now paying attention to Gurdev Ji, and suddently martial artists across the globe are believing the the claims of Sikhs being fercoious and skillfull warriors in the past... With Guru Ji's Kirpa there will be enough students to carry this beautiful art, The Guru's Legacy, forward and one day the Singhs shall reclaim the glory of their great ancestors. Gurfateh - Jvala Singh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullykhalsa 124 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 although i dont agree/disagree with niddar singh i must say some of the comments in hi letter are unfotunately phrased. Shastyr Vidiya may indeed teach you great combat skills and fantastic mind body and soul discpline but against a shooter who was a veteran in the army 9 times out of 10 its not going to help. Heart goes out to Satwant singhs family, truly a altruistic brave soul! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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