Doubt on getting Naam Jugti - Reru Sahib Mahapursh Updesh

[Jonny101]

Sant Bhindrawale is Shaheed and please name any other.

Sant Bhindranwale along with all the Singhs with him in 1984 were believers in doing Naam Abhiyas and Gurbani Paathis who had studied in Taksal. The shaheeds(Bhai Fauja Singh Jee and others) of 1978 were also all Naam Abhyasees many of whom did hours of Nam Simran everyday. After 1984 many Kharkoos of Babbar Khalsa and other groups would also do countless paaths and simran because they knew their end can happen any time anywhere. Read about Bhai Anokh Singh Babbar's jeevan who would do paath and simran while the police would torture him.

Sukha and Jinda were monas when they killed vaidiya because that was the only way to get there, but even they did many paaths while still being Monas. Being a Mona does not mean they are in the Kala Afghanist/missionary category In fact once they went to jail they even increased their Paath and began to do multiple paaths of sukhmani sahib everyday in addition to other paaths, their last wish before getting shaheedi was to be allowed to take Amrit but the Jail officials refused. Bhai Rajoana and Bhai Hawara are Gursikhs who are firm believers in Dasam Bani and Sikh traditions. Now name me one Kala Afghanist or missionary who has even picked up the gun for the Panth or has even given a shaheedi?? all they are good for is sitting in their comfortable AC rooms getting fat and doing kintu prantu of other GurSikhs, in other words as far as the Panth goes, Kala Afghanists and missionaries are good for nothings.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

Most of the paapi was killed by mona's and later turned into Sabat Soorat. But how many Baba's took gun and killed paapis.

[GuptUnknown]

Bhai Randhir Singh ji's time in jail? How can you have anything negative to say about Sant Attar Singh ji? Lol ignorance is bliss ji ? Waheguru

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

Baba ji was talking about this shabad.

ਮਃ ੪ ॥

Ma 4 ||

ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥

Gur Sathigur Kaa Jo Sikh Akhaaeae S Bhalakae Outh Har Naam Dhhiaavai ||

One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru the True Guru shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name.

ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥

Oudham Karae Bhalakae Parabhaathee Eisanaan Karae Anmrith Sar Naavai ||

Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar.

ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥

Oupadhaes Guroo Har Har Jap Jaapai Sabh Kilavikh Paap Dhokh Lehi Jaavai ||

Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased.

ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥

Fir Charrai Dhivas Gurabaanee Gaavai Behadhiaa Outhadhiaa Har Naam Dhhiaavai ||

Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name.

ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Saas Giraas Dhhiaaeae Maeraa Har Har So Gurasikh Guroo Man Bhaavai ||

One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind.

ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਗੁਰੂ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਾਵੈ ॥

Jis No Dhaeiaal Hovai Maeraa Suaamee This Gurasikh Guroo Oupadhaes Sunaavai ||

That person, unto whom my Lord and Master is kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed.

ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥

Jan Naanak Dhhoorr Mangai This Gurasikh Kee Jo Aap Japai Avareh Naam Japaavai ||2||

Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ||2||

The way is also described in this shabad.

Bhai Randhir Singh ji's time in jail? How can you have anything negative to say about Sant Attar Singh ji? Lol ignorance is bliss ji ? Waheguru

What Sant Attar Singh has done.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

How many Paapi in 80's was killed by baba ji.

ਬਿਨੁ ਜਿਹਵਾ ਜੋ ਜਪੈ ਹਿਆਇ ॥

Bin Jihavaa Jo Japai Hiaae ||

In the heart, without the tongue? ||2||

EVerything thought/meditated in heart is without tongue. Lol

[Jonny101]

Most of the paapi was killed by mona's and later turned into Sabat Soorat. But how many Baba's took gun and killed paapis.

MOST??? more like some namely Sukha Jinda and the killers of Beanta. But even they were monas in order to achieve their mission because they knew they could not get close if their remained saabad soorat. But what is interesting is why did they all become saabad soorab right after getting arrested and while in jail request to become Amritdhari? in the case of Sukh and Jinda they only wore Bana while in Jail. Secondly being a mona does not put them in the kala afghanist or missionary category. These mona Sikhs who are consider my brothers were firm believers in Sikh traditions. These Mona Sikhs are much better Sikhs than the Kala Afghanists and missionaries.

Now please give even one name of a Kala Afghanist or missionary who picked up the gun during troubled times? just one?

[Jonny101]

How many Paapi in 80's was killed by baba ji.

ਬਿਨੁ ਜਿਹਵਾ ਜੋ ਜਪੈ ਹਿਆਇ ॥

Bin Jihavaa Jo Japai Hiaae ||

In the heart, without the tongue? ||2||

EVerything thought/meditated in heart is without tongue. Lol

nearly all the Shaheeds were Gursikhs who were firm believers of Naam simran and doing Gurbani Paaths and Sikh traditions. ਜੇ ਹਸਨਾ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਉੱਤੇ ਹੱਸ because kala afghanists and missionaries have not sacrifised even one life for the panth. They are more like ਧਰਤੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਬੋਝ

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

kala afghani and missionaries are your term used now days more. People who were not sabat surat laid their life and they did killed the biggest paapis. Now days most people who are not sabat soorat are called "Patit". Best example is of Harbhajan Singh who gave a message through a song people simply critised him.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

What baba ji in audio clip said, if you check baani you will know he is saying simple things if u read gurbani.

There is no other additional guidance is required from anyone if you read baani.

Yes if u cannot understand baani u can read good books and even learn gurbani vyakaran.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

If you ever read gurbani here is one of the best example of simran anytime,everytime.

ਬਾਣੀ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਜੀਉ ਕੀ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Baanee Naamadhaeo Jeeo Kee Raamakalee Ghar 1

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ik Oankaar Sathigur Prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਆਨੀਲੇ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਕਾਟੀਲੇ ਗੂਡੀ ਆਕਾਸ ਮਧੇ ਭਰਮੀਅਲੇ ॥

Aaneelae Kaagadh Kaatteelae Gooddee Aakaas Madhhae Bharameealae ||

The boy takes paper, cuts it and makes a kite, and flies it in the sky.

ਪੰਚ ਜਨਾ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਤ ਬਤਊਆ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਡੋਰੀ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥

Panch Janaa Sio Baath Bathooaa Cheeth S Ddoree Raakheealae ||1||

Talking with his friends, he still keeps his attention on the kite string. ||1||

ਮਨੁ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਾ ਬੇਧੀਅਲੇ ॥

Man Raam Naamaa Baedhheealae ||

My mind has been pierced by the Name of the Lord,

ਜੈਸੇ ਕਨਿਕ ਕਲਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਮਾਂਡੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Jaisae Kanik Kalaa Chith Maanddeealae ||1|| Rehaao ||

Like the goldsmith, whose attention is held by his work. ||1||Pause||

ਆਨੀਲੇ ਕੁੰਭੁ ਭਰਾਈਲੇ ਊਦਕ ਰਾਜ ਕੁਆਰਿ ਪੁਰੰਦਰੀਏ ॥

Aaneelae Kunbh Bharaaeelae Oodhak Raaj Kuaar Purandhareeeae ||

The young girl in the city takes a pitcher, and fills it with water.

ਹਸਤ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਬੀਚਾਰ ਕਰਤੀ ਹੈ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਗਾਗਰਿ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੨॥

Hasath Binodh Beechaar Karathee Hai Cheeth S Gaagar Raakheealae ||2||

She laughs, and plays, and talks with her friends, but she keeps her attention focused on the pitcher of water. ||2||

ਮੰਦਰੁ ਏਕੁ ਦੁਆਰ ਦਸ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵਨ ਛਾਡੀਅਲੇ ॥

Mandhar Eaek Dhuaar Dhas Jaa Kae Goo Charaavan Shhaaddeealae ||

The cow is let loose, out of the mansion of the ten gates, to graze in the field.

ਪਾਂਚ ਕੋਸ ਪਰ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵਤ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਛਰਾ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੩॥

Paanch Kos Par Goo Charaavath Cheeth S Bashharaa Raakheealae ||3||

It grazes up to five miles away, but keeps its attention focused on its calf. ||3||

ਕਹਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਤਿਲੋਚਨ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਪਾਲਨ ਪਉਢੀਅਲੇ ॥

Kehath Naamadhaeo Sunahu Thilochan Baalak Paalan Poudteealae ||

Says Naam Dayv, listen, O Trilochan: the child is laid down in the cradle.

ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਕਾਜ ਬਿਰੂਧੀ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਾਰਿਕ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੪॥੧॥

Anthar Baahar Kaaj Biroodhhee Cheeth S Baarik Raakheealae ||4||1||

Its mother is at work, inside and outside, but she holds her child in her thoughts. ||4||1||