pakistanis and mughals

[bsandhu]

why do pakistanis take pride in the mughals

the mughals were turksmen not from south asia

and treated their ancestors horribly and forced them into islam by the sword

[luckysingh99]

It doesn't matter where they were from.

A muslim pakistani will take pride in anything islamic.

That is the bottom line.

It is about islam and not the nationality.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

How about Maharaja Ranjit Singh. What they think about Sher-e-Punjab?

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

They cannot take pride if they were beaten by sikhs. They were converted out of fear.

You cannot admit you are loser.

[GuptUnknown]

Please close thread.

[sat]

most pakistani's ancestors were hindus , who were converted by the Mughals, I met such a person when i visited pakistan a few years ago , who told me that his relatives who live in india are still hindus, but his family are muslims, and also i was told by a muslim in lahore that kashmiri muslims (pakistan side), are the most untrustworthy people you could ever meet they constantly tell lies and have low morals, and they are the majority of pakistani's/kashmiris we have in the UK !! Make sense to me just look in the media regarding grooming etc.

[Jonny101]

Pakistan was founded on the basis of Islam, so for them they have no choice but to take pride in the Mughals and Afghans since they did not have an indigenous Islamic rule. That is why Punjabi is not the official language even though majority of Pakistan's population is Punjabi, instead Urdu which is considered the Sub Continent's Muslim language is given preference. Their weapons and missiles are named in honour of Islamic invaders i.e. gourid. They see themselves as inheritors of the Mughal empire just as Turkey see's itself as the inheritor of the Ottoman empire.

Overall Pakistan had a lot of potential. It has the best part of Punjab for agriculture, it has a lot of mineral deposits and even oil in Balochistan. But they have always lacked good leadership which could not take their country forward. After the Americans leave Afghanistan, and the eventual take over of Afghanistan by the Taliban it will have a scary spillover effect on the Indo Pak subcontinent.

[VanHelsingh]

the isi is playing a double game with the taliban on one side they are allied with the united states and on the other side they are training the taliban and providing them with weapions They want to keep the taliban dependent on pakistan for assistance against the united states and keep taliban as a puppet regime of pakistan They have to do this cause india wants influence afghan politics and have an afghan government that is an enemy of pakistan giving them two enemies on two borders as well isi created taliban to keep the influence of india out India was a hardcore backer of northern alliance and provided them huge sums of money and weapions before 2001 Northern alliance would of bin very loyal to the united states but Unfortanatly united states and the west had to dismantle northern alliance and not let them run afghanistan cause of their human rights groups northern alliance had a bad human rights track record with rapes and murders so nato led the way and had the northern alliance dismantled otherwise if the human rights groups stayed out of it the northern alliance would be running afghanistan backed by the united states

if united nations human rights organisations could step back for one month and let the united states fight the war like they would of in the 1920's and not worry about human rights violations and with nukes still being banned and airforce being banned the united states would finish the taliban off once and for all big problem for united states is they cant tell the taliban from a civilian cause all the taliban dress like normal civilians making it really hard for united states military to kill taliban fighters 2001 when it was easy for the united states to figure out who the taliban were the united states ended up destroying the taliban and driving them out of afghanistan within a month

if israel were given 30 days not having to worry about human rights and do what ever they wanted to do to get the job done and secure israels borders

every muslim in the world would have a poop stain in their underwears afterwards and would be apologising like no tomorrow for all the problems they cause

From a humanitarian perspective let's hope no country is ever given your "30 Day Carte Blanche" rule to do as they wish. The ironic thing is our enemies (certain elements within the Indian government) dream of a similar situation where they can finish Sikhs once and for all, yet we'd be the first to start blubbing like babies if anyone took such a hardline approach with us. They gave us a sample of such a policy during in the 80s and 90s and look what happened then.

[Jonny101]

the isi is playing a double game with the taliban on one side they are allied with the united states and on the other side they are training the taliban and providing them with weapions They want to keep the taliban dependent on pakistan for assistance against the united states and keep taliban as a puppet regime of pakistan They have to do this cause india wants influence afghan politics and have an afghan government that is an enemy of pakistan giving them two enemies on two borders as well isi created taliban to keep the influence of india out India was a hardcore backer of northern alliance and provided them huge sums of money and weapions before 2001 Northern alliance would of bin very loyal to the united states but Unfortanatly united states and the west had to dismantle northern alliance and not let them run afghanistan cause of their human rights groups northern alliance had a bad human rights track record with rapes and murders so nato led the way and had the northern alliance dismantled otherwise if the human rights groups stayed out of it the northern alliance would be running afghanistan backed by the united states

if the united nations human rights organisations could step back for one month and let the united states fight the war like they would of in the 1920's and not worry about human rights violations and with nukes still being banned and airforce being banned the united states would finish the taliban off once and for all big problem for united states is they cant tell the taliban from a civilian cause all the taliban dress like normal civilians making it really hard for united states military to kill taliban fighters 2001 when it was easy for the united states to figure out who the taliban were the united states ended up destroying the taliban and driving them out of afghanistan within a month

if israel were given 30 days not having to worry about human rights and do what ever they wanted to do to get the job done and secure israels borders

every muslim in the world would have a poop stain in their underwears afterwards and would be apologising like no tomorrow for all the problems they cause

My hint more so was towards what effect will the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan will mean for the Indo Pak subcontinent. Once the Taliban take Afghanistan, it will have a spillover effect on India, in particular the Kashmir valley. Till now the Indian army has been fighting Kashmiri and Pakistani(mostly Punjabis) insurgents but after the taliban victory over Afghanistan we can expect thousands of Jihadi Pathans fighting in Kashmir in the near future. I don't even think the Indian government or army is prepared for this future nightmarish war in Kashmir.

[HSD2]

My hint more so was towards what effect will the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan will mean for the Indo Pak subcontinent. Once the Taliban take Afghanistan, it will have a spillover effect on India, in particular the Kashmir valley. Till now the Indian army has been fighting Kashmiri and Pakistani(mostly Punjabis) insurgents but after the taliban victory over Afghanistan we can expect thousands of Jihadi Pathans fighting in Kashmir in the near future. I don't even think the Indian government or army is prepared for this future nightmarish war in Kashmir.

Nor are the Pak army. Worst comes to worse the Taliban might see the ISI's double game as a betrayal and pandering to America. If they cause Pakistan major problems, expect a massive refugee crisis in the region. East Punjab wont know what hit it.