Israel Or Palestine Which Side You On?

[Ranjeet01]

To be fair to Jon Snow, he has tried to interrogate the Hamas spokesman (sitting in Lebanon far away from Gaza just like most of the Hamas leadership).

[mohinder pal]

Both Muslims (Ismael) and Jews (Isaac) are the sons of one father ABraham (descendants of Noah).

Israel on one side is correct that Palestine belongs to them because this place was the place of Judah before it was taken over by Ottoman Empire and later by Islam/Muslims.

Currently, Even Middle east powers like Saudi/ Qatar/ and other Sunni countries donot support Hamas bcz they think HAMAS as a Islamist outwing is much worse for them then Israel (Link it with Arab revolts in Egypt/Syria/Iraq/Saudi and other countries). These countries do not want HAMAS like ppl to bring Arab revolts in their countries. That is why Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown in Egypt and was taken over agin by Military (Mr. SISI).

[Ranjeet01]

The jpg map is inaccurate because between 1948-1967, Gaza was occupied by Egypt and West Bank by Jordan.

[Ranjeet01]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_occupation_of_the_West_Bank

[Ranjeet01]

I have seen that map shown all over social media, but it is inaccurate.

Palestinians got beaten by Jordan also, read up about Black September.

[Ranjeet01]

There have been several wars in 1948,1967 and 1973 - if you read up, it will explain more

[Ranjeet01]

Innocent people get killed everyday in different parts of the world, not just in the Middle East.

The holy war in the holy middle east has seen plenty of bloodshed, what makes you think it will stop?

[Mehtab Singh]

Gaza City (CNN) -- The Israeli military said Thursday that it is calling up 16,000 additional reservists, bolstering its forces for its fight against Hamas in Gaza after a request for more ammunition from the United States.

The addition brings the total number of reservists Israel has called up since the beginning of the operation against Hamas to 86,000, a military spokeswoman said.

The conflict has killed more than 1,300 people in Gaza, most of them civilians. Fifty-six Israeli soldiers have been killed.

The incessant attacks and counterattacks are taking a terrible toll on Gazans.

More than 219,000 Palestinians are packed into 86 shelters across Gaza, the U.N. said. That equals about 12% of all of Gaza's population.

Clean water is inaccessible for most. And some 3,600 people have lost their homes.

full news:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/world/meast/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[West London Singh]

India did their dirty deeds and moved on and the world cared not for their deeds.

Isreal, it seems, is about to move on after doing their dirty deeds.

So what have we learned ?

1) We've finally understood why the rest of the world has not been as moved as we are about the murdering of children and mothers by a 'democracy'.

2) We've learned that some, if not most (judging by this forum) Sikhs approve of the tactic of wiping out the existence of a troublesome minority so that 'their' problem won't exist.

3) We've learned that we are that troublseome minority as far as India is concerned.

4) We have not learned how the Indian Army were, in 1984,(whilst indira was still alive) issued with combat guidelines that described every Sikh (i.e amritdhari and kirpan wearing) as an "enemy of the state (the sate of India) thus worthy of being shot at sight.

5) We have learned nothing about how that dehumanisation of us led to what Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch call the 'deaths of a quarter of a million' of Sikhs.

5) We have not learned how the above is relative to our relationship with the Palestinians (as if our relationship as fellow human bengs wasn't enough)

6) We learned about how how a despaaerate people can fire a thousand dud missles without any firepower and the world will call those desperate people terrorists.

7) We learned how Americans, through their media, were not told that not more than 6 of those missles had actually ever landed in Isreal (thanks to the tax dollars of the average American who is suffering already far more than we know)....i.e thanks to the American funded shield.

8) We learned how murdering 2000 Palestinian civilians in resoonses to missiles that never had a chance to getting to you in the first place was the "correct" response.

And yet here we are. The western educated Sikh diaspora. Some of us ( Not I ) have good jobs, good houses and good careers. Some of us, when we get a chance, ask people why they don't care about our suffering as Sikhs where a 'supposed' democracy launched an inhuman attck on us. And then, we turn around and support a 'democracy' that launches an inhuman assault on another group of people that just happen not to be us.

Its make up your mind time.

Are we the killers ?

Or the sufferers ?

[chatanga]

6) We learned about how how a despaaerate people can fire a thousand dud missles without any firepower and the world will call those desperate people terrorists.

Firing missiles is not an act of desperation, it is an act of hostility. Nothing less.

It's very simple, stop firing rockets and isreal will stop raining bombs.

Are we the killers ?

Or the sufferers ?

We are not the killers, it their "god" and the words of their "prophet" who encourages them to attack and kill the jews. no muslim would want to face thier god or prophet knowing that he hadn't sacrificed himself for trying to acheive this "god's" orders on killing jews.

their god and prophet are the killers, and the ones who have any faith in it whatsoever are the sufferers.

ask people why they don't care about our suffering as Sikhs where a 'supposed' democracy launched an inhuman attck on us. And then, we turn around and support a 'democracy' that launches an inhuman assault on another group of people that just happen not to be us.

Their situation is not a mirror image of ours, it is very different.