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We need to boycott Khalsa aid and other so called sikh charities that havent been helping our afghan sikh brothers and sisters that they are forced to travel in such methods to get to a place of safety away from persecution of islamo-fascists in afghanistan. Recently the belguim governemnt denied asylum status to afghan Sikhs who were living there and we all forgot about their plight.

We have ourselves to blame as a wider sikh community for not doing anything to help, blame also sikh charities who turned a blind eye, blame islamo-fascists that wont let non-muslims live in peace and harmony, blame the british govt and other western governemnts that have meddled in afghanistan, pakistan and in India that has destabilised whole regions where sikhs and other communities reside. Leaving them with harsh and bruta living conditions and often battling for survival.

How many afghan sikhs who came to UK for safety seeking asylum and were sent back under tony blairs new labour? Loads were I can remember a few stories being posted on websites. They sent afghan Sikhs back because they thought it is safe now since NATO was there but report after report showed afghan Sikhs faced continuously battle for survival under shadow of evil uncaring unkind muslims.

We as a community need to wake up work together to strengthen our faith we cant afford to see our numbers dwindle.

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Illegal immigrants in Tilbury shipping container were 'Sikhs from Afghanistan'

Police reveal more details about 35 men, women and children - including one fatality - found in distress in dockyard













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By David Barrett, Home Affairs Correspondent



2:45PM BST 17 Aug 2014







The illegal immigrants found screaming for help inside a shipping container at an Essex dockyard were Sikhs from Afghanistan, police have revealed.




The officer leading a homicide inquiry after a man’s body was found inside the container along with 34 other people, including several children, said members of the Sikh community from Tilbury were assisting officers and helping to care for the stowaways.




They included thirteen children aged as young as one year old, while the oldest adult was 72, Essex Police said.




The 34 survivors were taken to hospital suffering from hypothermia and severe dehydration after the discovery early on Saturday and 30 have now been released by doctors “into the care of Essex police and Border Force staff”.




A spokesman for Essex Police said the Afghans would be taken to a “suitable location” by Border Force officials, although it is understood they are not in immigration detention.





Supt Trevor Roe said: “We now understand that they are from Afghanistan and are of the Sikh faith.


“We have had a good deal of help from partners within the local Sikh community in the Tilbury area to ensure that these poor people, who would have been through a horrific ordeal, are supported in terms of their religious and clothing needs.”


He added: "The welfare and health of the people is our priority at this stage.


“Now they are well enough, our officers and colleagues from the Border Force will be speaking to them via interpreters so we can piece together what happened and how they came to be in the container.”


Sikhism is a minority religion in Afghanistan, and the population is limited to a few thousand. Many have fled since the Soviet invasion in the early 1980s, when the population stood at more than 100,000.


Sikhs in the country have previously complained they are ostracised.


The 34 survivors discovered in a container aboard the Nordstream, a P&O freighter, were taken for treatment at Southend, Basildon and the Royal London hospitals.


Four remain in hospital at Southend, the police spokesman said, but are expected to be well enough to be discharged later.


A post-mortem examination on the remains of the dead man is also due to be carried later.


Officers are liaising with Belgian police and Interpol as part of the investigation, which is focusing on the lorry which delivered the container to the Belgian port of Zeebrugge.


Belgian police said they believed the immigrants were probably already inside the container when it was dropped at a Zeebrugge before setting sail for Britain.


Peter De Waele, spokesman for the federal police in Belgium, said it appeared to be "impossible" for the 35 Afghans to be loaded into the unit in the time it was at Zeebrugge, a port in the north of the country.


He said investigators have been combing CCTV and are "very hopeful" they would track down the driver and company of the vehicle that deposited the container.


Mr De Waele said each container is captured on camera and their seals are subject to "very strict" controls.


"We saw that this container was there for one hour in all in an area where there is a lot of cameras, a lot of people and a lot of cars driving. It was around 6pm so it wasn't dark," he said.


"We think that the possibility [is that] the victims were already on the container before it was put down in Zeebrugge because in that area it is rather impossible to put 35 people in that container.


"That is not exact information. I think the investigation has to give answers to this question."


Supt Roe, of Essex Police, said: "This is a tragic incident where a man has sadly died. Our thoughts and sympathies are with his relatives


“Officers from the Kent and Essex Serious Crime Directorate have launched a homicide investigation to find out what happened.”


The Red Cross has provided food and welfare for the survivors.


All of the containers on board the ship have been searched and no further people have been found.


A casualty bureau set up by the police, on 0800 056 0944 and 020 7158 0010, has so far received around a dozen calls, said a force spokesman.





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It is hearbreaking to hear of this horrific story.

Afgan Sikhs have been abandoned by the authorities, but they have been abandoned by our people as well.

We should have a good look at our selves and how the panth helps its own.

Can anybody help by starting a relief fund for our brothers and sisters?

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Is there any Sikh charity that helps the Afghan Sikh community?

Khalsa Aid seems ot be a lost cause. Their helping everyone except the Sikh community itself.

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I think that a lot of different Sikh orgs focus on different things, such as SOPW on Sikh Prisoners and Seva84 (I think) on the victims of 1984. KhalsaAid seem to focus more on natural disasters and war torn areas. Maybe there is an opportunity for another Sikh org to step up to the plate or even another new Sikh Org to solely focus on

Sikh issues whatever they maybe (prisoners, refugees, disasters,massacres etc)

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The funny thing is that if these poor people had been non-Sikhs, Khalsa Aid would have been out there beating their drums asking for funds to help these people. Because they are Sikhs, KA couldn't care less.

Nice to see Harjap Singh Bhangal giving a good interview about the problems of Sikhs in Afghanistan on the BBC this morning.

These people are lucky in some respects that the UK even with all this anti-immigrant rhetoric still has compassion and chances are they will be be able to prove that they have a well founded fear of persecution and hence will be able to start new lives in this country.

Just had a look at what Khalsa Aid website has as their latest fund drives and efforts - Yazidis in Iraq and aid to Bosnia because of the floods there!!

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what happened to the other posts I and west_london_singh made in this thread? Or was it another thread I cant seem to find those posts we had discussion on

And anyone have the link to the bbc interview?

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Good question.

I think some some of the mods / admins do need to learn how to differentiate a knowledge filled discussion from an argument, especially when the discssion got to the heart of the problem of who caused the Afghan Sikhs to take such extreme steps in the first place. If thats not relevant, and we're not allowed to learn from each other and teach each other....than what exactly is the point of this forum and how long will it survive ?

Yes the problem with removing posts in important discussions is that other people cant gain the knowledge and understanding that other people put out. For example you told me afghan Sikhs said taleban were a good thing for them whereas that was news to me and I gave you links saying the opposite. If a person was wanting find out information about the topic, this thread would be a great resource of finding out different view points but when mods or admins delete peoples posts for no reason and then that trust for the forum goes and that experience other sikhs of learning about the topic goes too.

So we can both agree on something, the policy of deleting posts or threads is very damaging to trust and credibility of forum and the sikh community online are denied the right to learn and express themselves freely without over bearing hindrance.

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I saw the documentary by Dutch Sikhs in which Afghan Sikhs said they are desperate to leave Afghanistan as they are harassed by local Muslims and Taliban. They said they only feel safe till American soldiers are there, but don't know what they will do after soldiers leave.

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