Should The Patka Be Encouraged Among Sikh Youth Over Dastar?

[savinderpalsingh]

i dont see any puratan kids wearing patka why now?

[SSD]

i dont see any puratan kids wearing patka why now?

You do have to take it into context, Patkas weren't popular back then. They became popular when the Indian School system made the Parkas part of their uniform.

[jkvlondon]

Frankly it is only since the whole disastrous RUMAL on JOODEY of the 1970s that these patkey became more popular...funny thing is my bros hated the rumal thingy with a vengence and breathed a sigh of relief when they had amrit in 79 as it meant wearing a decent dastar.

[jkvlondon]

You do have to take it into context, Patkas weren't popular back then. They became popular when the Indian School system made the Parkas part of their uniform.

I think you will find that the parents were more pro dastar than now.

[SSD]

I think you will find that the parents were more pro dastar than now.

Maybe that's because Patkas weren't that known, I'm sure that Paktas came in the late of the last century; most likely the idea just spread.

[savinderpalsingh]

No one liked patkas . it was stupid and for people who couldn't tie turban . if you have hands tie a decent dumala or turban . gurusahib never said go tie patka

[S1ngh]

Jkv, what i meant is that it was very hard for me during my youth time to go from patka to turban phase. I was the only turban within 150 mile radius.

I asked around and there was no patka trend back in my parents time and that is why turban is safe in that generation. Some of my patka wearing friends never successfully made the transition - some became monay and others wear patka, net with shaven beard.

Btw, i am uncle now

[jkvlondon]

Jkv, what i meant is that it was very hard for me during my youth time to go from patka to turban phase. I was the only turban within 150 mile radius.

I asked around and there was no patka trend back in my parents time and that is why turban is safe in that generation. Some of my patka wearing friends never successfully made the transition - some became monay and others wear patka, net with shaven beard.

Btw, i am uncle now

so you also have experienced what I was saying about the hardship of switching if you leave it too late ...also my observation that people find it easier to become patit at that stage than dastar waley, this is a till that is just as bad as the one introduced by akal takht by making dastars for women optional , my Mum said that it was the one place guaranteed to maintain ancient original rehit even if others wavered. That jathedar who proposed it was Gurmukh SIngh by name ironically and it was supposed to be a temporary relaxation I think it's time to bring it back and enforced . I would love to insist also that our bibian do not tie jooda at the back and tie patka style dastar as this destroys the niarapan of our dastar .

SO many of our bibian are mistaken for muslim women because of this new 'style' and I have heard lots of lame excuses why they chose to do so and the funny thing is now the muslim women are tying their hijabs as turbans, because they love our look (they have no history of dastar styles on women) .

The Jooda is supposed to be the shingar along with kanga of the dasam duar as Bhai Sahib Jarnail SIngh ji (Leamington Spa) explained when questioned about where the jooda should be tied . We are supposed to stand out this keeps us on track and aware of our words and actions, when we shirk the bana's true form we are shirking our true responsibilities to ourselves and others. Sorry but that is how I feel; Bana is a blessing not a curse and somehow all these little introductions have created mental weaknesses in us and the wrong attitude to bana.

[StarStriker]

patka is/was a panjabi muslim ladies headwear, this sikh patka wearing thing came from copying them. You will notice if u look at all our parents photographs, taken of them, upon arrival from panjab, in black/white or coloured pics in 70s, to the UK, all the boys wore paghs, not even a patka in sight, or even a guti/rumal i would say.