Sant Mahapursh

[Pakandi baba]

I honestly just said the truth, I know that truth hurts sometimes, there is no equal to the Gurus, if you understand this concept, it'll be better for you in the future.

Your own 'truth' which is manmatt. If you're a true Sikh you'd not even entertain such an idea. In the Court of the Master they'll be punishments handed out. Think about that for the future.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Your own 'truth' which is manmatt. If you're a true Sikh you'd not even entertain such an idea. In the Court of the Master they'll be punishments handed out. Think about that for the future.

Please explain your truth, do you think anyone is equal to the Gurus?

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Thank you that was a beautiful sakhi! Here is another one:

http://www.gurmatbibek.com/contents.php?id=61

thank you

i like this saaki too ....

Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji were a father and son who were beloved Gursikhs of Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj. Although these two Gursikhs were very poor materialistically they were very rich spiritually. On one occasion they had travelled to be blessed with Guru Ji's darshan. After arriving in Guru Ji's darbar and kissing Maharaj's charankamal they did a benti to Guru Sahib to bless their village with his holy presence. Maharaj smiled at his two beloved Sikhs and accepted their request. In the presence of his Sangat Maharaj told all the Sikhs that they would be going to Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji's house on such and such a day.

Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji headed home with tears of happiness as they had been blessed by Maharaj with such a mahaan seva. Many times we often question how we will be able to do a seva that Guru Sahib has himself given us. But look at these two beloved Sikhs of Guru Sahib who didn't have any maya to their name begging Maharaj for this seva.

Bhai Suman Ji and his son Bhai Moosan Ji began to work day and night on the land of a rich man. Every day they would take the Name of Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj on their lips and would not stop working for sleep or food or water. With Maharaj firmly implanted in their minds all they thought about was the seva that they had been blessed with.

After working very hard in this way finally the day of their payment had arrived. Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji had planned to use this money to buy all the things they required to make Guru Sahib's langar with their own hands. When they went to see the rich man to collect their payment their clothes were dripping with sweat and had been stained with blood from their limbs. The rich man opened his door when he noticed Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji were coming, looked at them and simply refused to pay them for the work that they had done.

Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji were heartbroken and went home. They were deeply saddened not that the rich man had refused to pay them but that they would not be able to perform Guru Sahib's seva. After a while they though to themselves that the money they are owed is their right. They soon made a plan to go back to the rich man's house in the night to take what was rightfully theirs.

At night Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji used a ladder to climb into the house of the rich man. Bhai Moosan Ji went in first, slipped and was dangling from the rich man's ceiling. As Bhai Moosan Ji was dangling he began to hear voices and realised that the rich man's family had woken up. Without a second thought Bhai Moosan Ji looked up to his father had said, "Pita Ji cut my head off". Bhai Moosan Ji had asked his father to do this as he knew that if the rich man came and saw him dangling there word would get around that Sikhs of Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj are thieves. This is the love Gursikhs have for their Guru. Bhai Suman Ji knew this too and quickly took out his sword and with one blow cut his son's head off. This is the love Gursikhs have for their Guru. Bhai Suman Ji wrapped his son's head in a cloth and went home leaving his body there.

When the rich man came out he saw a dead body which had been decapitated on the floor. He then began to think that if people come to know that there is a dead body in my house they will think that I am a murderer. With the help of one of his servants he put Bhai Moosan Ji's body on a cart and decided to take the body to the house of Bhai Suman Ji and Bhai Moosan Ji as these were the only honest people that he knew who he could depend on. When he arrived at Bhai Suman Ji's house he gave Bhai Suman Ji the money that was owed to them. He then told him that there was a body that he had bought with him in the cart that he wanted them to get rid of.

Bhai Suman Ji took his son's body from the cart and into his house. He then placed it with the head of Bhai Moosan Ji that he had brought back and covered both with a sheet. Bhai Suman Ji did an ardas to Maharaj and thanked Guru Ji. He then began to make the langar for all the sangat who were due to arrive the following morning.

In the morning Bhai Suman Ji's beloved Guru arrived with his sangat. As Guru Ji was about to have his langar he looked at Bhai Suman Ji and said, "Suman where is your son Moosan I haven't seen him. Go and call him."

Guru Ji then turned towards the house where Bhai Suman Ji had covered his son's head and body and started calling out to Moosan. As soon as Guru Maharaj did this Bhai Moosan Ji came out of the house and bowed together with his father Bhai Suman Ji at the charankamal of their beloved Guru.

Akho Satnaam Sri Waheguru ji.

[Babbar_Singhsta]

Brahmgiani is the creator of all, immortal, dying never.

Brahmgiani is the conferrer of the way of liberation, the perfect being, rewarder of deeds.

Brahmgiani is the succourer of the helpless;

Brahmgiani affords protection to all.

All creation is Brahmgiani’s image;

Brahmgiani himself is the Supreme Being.

Brahmgiani alone is deserving of his high repute;

Of all is Brahmgiani the overlord, sayeth Nanak.

(GG, 273-74)

Sri Sukhmani Sahib Jee saying over and over that there is no difference between god or a brahmgiani...

Never do any nindiya or any sant or mahapurash. You will probs will have no clue what avastha they are on.

who are we to judge!?

We should learn to tell apart fake babey from sant/mahapurash/brahmgianis.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

who are we to judge!?

We should learn to tell apart fake babey from sant/mahapurash/brahmgianis. you just contradicted yourself.

[hsingh8963]

What ever your opinions are I don't think it's a good idea to call bhramgianis fake babeys think about sant isher Singh hi and sant Gurbachan Singh bhindranwale

[jkvlondon]

What ever your opinions are I don't think it's a good idea to call bhramgianis fake babeys think about sant isher Singh hi and sant Gurbachan Singh bhindranwale

unfortunately it has become a current trend to bait SIkhs by bad-mouthing Mahapurakhs such as Sant Isher SIngh Rara Sahib wale , Sant ji, and others . One can look at whether the Mahapurakh spoken of brought people to sikhi or to some perversion of Guru ji's message , whether they direct to Guru's charan or their own ... after all all the sakhian show one should not test such a Purakh but there are nishaani that gurbani shows us , that the true nature of a person of high avasta will have.Ultimately we should improve our avasta so we will know what that avasta is.

[harsharan000]

When we say Gurus or Mahapurukhs, we tend to take them literally phisically. When the fact is, outwardly they look like anyone of us, but it is internally, where the differnce lies.

While we are full of vikars and paaps, thus agyanta; they are in full communion with the Shabad Guru within, Naam is pargat in them. This is only perceived by His devotees, they have that nose, to smell that fragrance of divinity emanating from them, not by all, most of us have our noses obstructed with our paaps, so we do not perceive that divinity from them, the True Sadhs, Bhagats, or Guru Sahibans.

Those who tortured our Guru Sahibans, or any True sant Janas, had noses like us, then, why could not they get the smell of Wahiguru from them?

Because they were obstructed with paaps and vikars like most of us, moreover it was not His Hukum for them also...

They are peacefully attuned in the divine will, while we struggle with our agyanta.

As the saying goes, One Light, many lamps.

The Light, the Consciousness, is, of that One Supreme, Power, and the lamps are the different swaroops or bodies, in which that Light is manifested.

The wadeeayee, the mahima is of the Light alone, the lamps are just means.

Just as the jewel box and the jewels. The value is of the precious jewels, the jewel box howsoever decorated, is only a lifeless/ unconsciouss container.

But we manmukhs, moorakhs, give more importance to the lamps, rather than to look and pay attention to the Light alone, and remove our darkness.

And the proof of, that our attitude is not the right one, is, we are quarreling and fighting under the influence of our dark egos...Thus moving away from the Light, the Truth...

Sat Sree Akal

[Pakandi baba]

Please explain your truth, do you think anyone is equal to the Gurus?

Please explain your truth, do you think anyone is equal to the Gurus?

My truth is what the Guru Sahibs have uttered, which can be accessed via the Shri Guru Granth Sahib. For me the Gurus were the Lord Incarnate even though they said not to address them as such. Some will quote that those that do will burn in the pits of hell. I'd happily go there just for saying the former.

I'm also taught that the Prophets, Saints of past have all been sent by the Creator so not to insult and ridicule them. This is Sikhi for me, but no, there is no comparison to the Gurus. [but I don't have to insult others for me to emphasise this as you've done]

[Koi]

My truth is what the Guru Sahibs have uttered, which can be accessed via the Shri Guru Granth Sahib. For me the Gurus were the Lord Incarnate even though they said not to address them as such. Some will quote that those that do will burn in the pits of hell. I'd happily go there just for saying the former.

I'm also taught that the Prophets, Saints of past have all been sent by the Creator so not to insult and ridicule them. This is Sikhi for me, but no, there is no comparison to the Gurus. [but I don't have to insult others for me to emphasise this as you've done]

"If, by calling Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj God, I have to go to hell, then I am ready to go."

--Sri Sant Baba Nand Singh Ji Maharaj