Sikh Man Comes Out Of The Closet... Takes Off Turban

[hsingh8963 371]

Sooo I was on youtube and this was the first thing I seen.

Is this form lack of knowledge or what??

[DiscoverSikhism 339]

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ॥

Siree Raag, Third Mehl:

ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਿਖਿਆ ਲੋਭਾਣੇ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਵਿਡਾਣੀ ॥

Discarding amrit, they greedily grab the poison; they serve others [instead of the Lord].

ਆਪਣਾ ਧਰਮੁ ਗਵਾਵਹਿ ਬੂਝਹਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਣੀ ॥

They lose their faith, they have no understanding; night and day, they suffer in pain.

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਅੰਧ ਨ ਚੇਤਹੀ ਡੂਬਿ ਮੁਏ ਬਿਨੁ ਪਾਣੀ ॥੧॥

The blind, self-willed manmukhs do not even think of the Lord; they drown without water. ||1||

~ Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji (Ang 31)

[kamc 128]

Not really lack of knowledge, lack of courage, he associated being gay with the fact that he has to cut his hair, he felt that he wouldn't be accepted as gay if he had a turban, maybe he should have tried to talk to his family about his sexuality before telling them he was going to cut his hair, the only other thing i don't get is why the whole "let's make a video about how we told everyone we're gay" thing, you don't see a load of video's of people telling everyone their straight, anyway, each to their own.

[Pakandi baba 154]

Sikh is a culture is it

[N30S1NGH 3,089]

This would not have occurred, if many in sikh community actually follows sikhi which is religious-spiritual not cultural-religious. Had he been introduced to meditation (which helps connect us or identify with our real deeper self-OUR ATMA jot saroop) by his parents in the early age. He wouldn't have-

a) Strong urge to cut his hair which he felt he was pressurized by his parents for religious-cultural reasons. Had he been given spiritual 101 reasons to keep his hair which everyone of us can relate to ( unbroken current/liv- cosmic bliss/shabad dhun going through rom rom hair in our body/dasam dwar on top of head where jora is tied) along with inspiring religious stories of our guru's and shaheeds he wouldn't have never cut his hair because he can related to it on deep spiritual level rather than relating to on religious cultural level which he may nor may not be drawn to. As they say- cultural-religious is somebody else experience which one may or may not can relate to, religious-spiritual is one own experience (gurmat divine experience shown by our guru's and saints and those inspiring stories encouraging others -they can experience such bliss too).

b). He wouldn't have strong homosexual tendencies if early meditation/naam simran was introduced because naam simran quits the mind, makes those sticky strong emotional thoughts very lucid flow, not powerful. Naam simran at early ages, makes one identity not with their thoughts (many people beleive they think what they are, they think they are their thoughts) but rather inner consciousness -gur-chaitan-consciousness mukh-mouth/identify which automatically raises one's perception above from identifying with this whole petty sexual orientation tendencies (straight/homosexual)

Edited March 7, 2015 by N30S1NGH

[N30S1NGH 3,089]

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ॥

Siree Raag, Third Mehl:

ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਿਖਿਆ ਲੋਭਾਣੇ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਵਿਡਾਣੀ ॥

Discarding amrit, they greedily grab the poison; they serve others [instead of the Lord].

ਆਪਣਾ ਧਰਮੁ ਗਵਾਵਹਿ ਬੂਝਹਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਣੀ ॥

They lose their faith, they have no understanding; night and day, they suffer in pain.

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਅੰਧ ਨ ਚੇਤਹੀ ਡੂਬਿ ਮੁਏ ਬਿਨੁ ਪਾਣੀ ॥੧॥

The blind, self-willed manmukhs do not even think of the Lord; they drown without water. ||1||

~ Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji (Ang 31)

I wouldn't judge him that quickly, looks like its lack of parchar from our side.. its institutionalized failure with our wider community mindset which thinks sikhi only political movement- religious-cultural than religious-spiritual.

Edited March 7, 2015 by N30S1NGH

[ASKhalsa1 104]

Is this form lack of knowledge or what??

Do you mean his cutting his hair, or his coming out as gay? The first is self-evidently due to ignorance of Sikhi, the latter however was and is entirely beyond his power to change. He was born that way.

[hsingh8963 371]

Do you mean his cutting his hair, or his coming out as gay? The first is self-evidently due to ignorance of Sikhi, the latter however was and is entirely beyond his power to change. He was born that way.

I mean him having to leave sikhi and all that.

[S4NGH 743]

Well, how many of us wouldve accepted him as a gay Singh?

Edited March 10, 2015 by S4NGH

[JSinghnz 1,086]

Well, how many of us wouldve accepted him as a gay Singh?

Had he been a Singh he would never been gay.

[S4NGH 743]

Had he been a Singh he would never been gay.

LOL ok god.

[Ranjeet01 1,487]

Quick observation

for someone who has had a kesh all his life, I find it very surprising that he has full hairline around the temples.

You can always spot someone who has cut their kesh because there is hair missing around the side area.

How much of his story is true, just wondering if he is some actor who is fronting some agenda.

[buddasingh 209]

As kamc nicely puts it each to their own. However, sadly, even though one would think the guy in the video would understand a minority perspective, he is not the least bit graceful against a targeted minority in his own country.

In fact he is ignorant to the extreme in how he mocks Sikhi with distributing ‘having a good time’ pictures of him in a barber shop and the tenor of his piece being consistent with “good riddance”. Be a poster boy for your after look as much as you want. But if you feel you are not a Sikh, then that’s your personal issue. Don’t mix that with something considered sacred by millions of others as some thing to be tossed in the garbage.

Leave Sikhi, that is your business. Insult Sikhi like that and you make it hatred toward an identifiable group. Whether it crosses legal thresholds for action, does not change that it is indeed hatred toward an identifiable group. Being a minority (gay) does not give you a greater license for hatred toward another minority (sikhs). Cloaking it in advocating other rights makes it that much more insidious.

I will defend minorities including LGBT from hate and attacks. But I will not give anyone a license to attack Sikhi. So he purports to have found a place to accept himself. I suggest to him that I as a turbaned straight Sikh can more sincerely stand up for discrimination against LGBT than him. He has just found a more comfortable corner from which to hate himself and others. Wish him luck on learning more about acceptance and tolerance so he can eventually accept himself regardless of labels.

[Ranjeet01 1,487]

As kamc nicely puts it each to their own. However, sadly, even though one would think the guy in the video would understand a minority perspective, he is not the least bit graceful against a targeted minority in his own country.

In fact he is ignorant to the extreme in how he mocks Sikhi with distributing having a good time pictures of him in a barber shop and the tenor of his piece being consistent with good riddance. Be a poster boy for your after look as much as you want. But if you feel you are not a Sikh, then thats your personal issue. Dont mix that with something considered sacred by millions of others as some thing to be tossed in the garbage.

Leave Sikhi, that is your business. Insult Sikhi like that and you make it hatred toward an identifiable group. Whether it crosses legal thresholds for action, does not change that it is indeed hatred toward an identifiable group. Being a minority (gay) does not give you a greater license for hatred toward another minority (sikhs). Cloaking it in advocating other rights makes it that much more insidious.

I will defend minorities including LGBT from hate and attacks. But I will not give anyone a license to attack Sikhi. So he purports to have found a place to accept himself. I suggest to him that I as a turbaned straight Sikh can more sincerely stand up for discrimination against LGBT than him. He has just found a more comfortable corner from which to hate himself and others. Wish him luck on learning more about acceptance and tolerance so he can eventually accept himself regardless of labels.

LGBTQ is some lobby organisation that also has a political agenda. It seems to want to show religious people as narrow minded bigots that oppresses gay people.

Gay and lesbian people can also be narrow minded bigots too.

[Akalifauj 900]

This is not a Sikh community issue, but a issue he had with his family. His family (mother and father) were not willing to accept him as being homosexual. He said it himself, after cutting his hair, he felt no different and still felt like a loser. It's only when he told his family he is a homosexual, he felt uplifted and free. His whole point of cutting hair is to have worldly success. He wanted to be a sheep and fit in with rest of the sheep of the world. He does not care about religion and wants nothing to do with it. He wants to be "true" to himself. It won't be long till this high he has, runs out and again he is looking for a new way to give himself the finger. He is a sheep who has no fight in him. He clearly shows giving up is his way out of life. His 15 minutes will be over before he knows it and he will be shooting up rocks like rest of his fellow celebrity wannabes.